Can stables weigh my daughter rather than accept my word?

[TheQuaintLemonDuck]

Are stables entitled to weigh my daughter rather than just take my word for it?

Parents lie about everything if it gives their precious little child what it wants.

I've had people deny they even have children when they've approached me for a puppy (I have asked as I don't sell to people with young children). And when I've found out - because people are stupid - they've tried to justify it or lie.

When it comes to animal wellbeing, people - usually parents - never ever listen to reason if it might emotionally hurt, or even in any way inconvenience, their child in any way.

Animal wellbeing comes first, every time. 20+ years ago lots of horses had serious back issues due to being forced to carry people too big for them. Good on the stables for protecting their horses.

I put 'no' and might be the only one!

Because I don't think they're 'entitled' to, which was your wording.

I think they should explain they need your permission to do this and that its a requirement if you want your daughter to ride. You are free to agree or opt not to and choose for her not to ride a horse.

I'm a city girl and know nothing about horses other than my DGD used to have riding lessons

I would assume that as a commercial business stables can impose any such requirements as they see fit, as long as they're not discriminating on grounds of sex, race etc.

If someone is too hefty for a particular horse well that's too bad - get a bigger stronger beast to take the weight

It’s normal for stables to ask for weight to be updated every 6 months. You have failed to do this op. They’re giving your dd 2 choices: agree to be weight checked or don’t ride. Whilst I’ve voted that stables aren’t entitled to weigh your dd, she isn’t entitled to ride without agreeing to it. That sounds reasonable to me.

But OP started the other thread today about her DD gaining weight recently after she started this one.

Why???

Yes. Yes they do. I think someone already linked you my thread where a woman did just that. Twice.

Yes, they will likely weigh her. It's for the horses own good. We need to balance their work loads for the day. Even being half a stone out can make a difference for some ponies. We have a couple who really are lightweights, they can't handle more than 8 stone. Even a few pounds over, they struggle.

Others tank around with anyone.

When riding schools and trekking centres weigh riders, they very often use a method that doesn't use actual weight but rather a colour scale taped over the numbers on the scale. So if your weight lands in the blue zone, you get to ride a blue zone pony, if you land in the orange zone, you ride a pony from that zone. Noone can see what you actually weigh but you're properly matched to a pony that can carry your weight.

If you think your daughter will be embarrassed by actual numbers, you could call and see if they use the colour scale method.

Omg! By just writing any old weight (one from 6 months ago would rarely be accurate on a growing child, so its any old weight), this is exactly what youre trying to do!! Youre daughter wants to ride a particular horse, you have no idea if shes of weight to, so youre just making one up to fit. Who cares about the horse as long as your daughter is happy, eh? 🙄

This sounds perfectly normal, your DD will have grown in the last year, if she was on an appropriate horse last year it makes sense that it may be a different horse this year.
Do you not agree with the stable’s policy op?

@WheretheFishesareFrighteningthat was the thread I was referring to.

Or wanted her tiny daughter on too large a horse that she had not the weight to control.

This is the thread that the OP seems to have forgotten writing only an hour ago https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/parenting/5513381-dd-visceral-fat?reply=151532013

Of course they can. They need to check that the child is not too heavy for the horse. It's hardly an intrusive medical procedure!

Lots of people. Not necessarily on purpose, but just because they don’t bother to be accurate and just take a guess!

That sounds perfectly reasonable.

It is the same that if you go for an activity with harnesses that have different weight limits or other safety measures. Any operator for any sort of activity where weight or height is a factor is going to take their own measurements to be sure it’s safe otherwise they would be liable. This isn’t a difficult concept.

They can and they should , this is the few times I think weight cannot be trusted as it can cause serious hurt to an animal . It should off course be done awa from other kids etc but needs doing

Of course they can ask to weigh anyone who goes on their horses. Similar to in theme parks they measure childrens heights. It's for safety of rider and the horses surely

Sorry OP, but obviously there are many parents who would round the numbers down, or tell them selves that the stables leave a good contingency etc and lie, when their child badly wants to ride a beloved pony.

But of course the stables must be in full knowledge, it is up to them to protect their ponies. It isn’t a matter of trust, it’s a matter of due diligence.

Of course weight, any weight can start to feel sensitive to growing girls, but just tell your Dd it’s a normal part of pony care and it’s normal for growing tweens : teens to grow and get heavier. And if she is committed to pony camp presumably she cares about the ponies!

Jockeys get weighed every time they ride!

What, big horses? Sure, big horses exist.

what on earth do you mean if such people exist - you are that parent! You post a thread that your DD has recently gained a lot of weight but were planning to give the stables her weight 6 months ago.

So the op wants to deliberately lie and risk the health and life of rhe horse. So as to get her daughter whay she wants and avoid embarrassment to her.

christ.

Presumably she has grown in 6 months? The only reason for any embarrassment is if you've given them the wrong weight. You can ask them not to announce her weight aloud, and I'm pretty sure that most settings wouldn't do so in any event.

@TheQuaintLemonDuck Are stables entitled to weigh my daughter rather than just take my word for it?

Strictly speaking, they can't weigh your daughter without your agreement.

... but if you don't agree, then they don't have to allow your daughter to ride one of their horses.

Yes they can! Horses are not machines and cannot carry unlimited weight! I’m assuming your daughter looks heavier than she possibly is which is why they are not taking your word. If you read their terms you’ll see they have a weight limit.