Can stables weigh my daughter rather than accept my word?

[TheQuaintLemonDuck]

Are stables entitled to weigh my daughter rather than just take my word for it?

It would be great if these animal abusers were called out at shows and eliminated / banned from competing. Sadly the Great Yorkshire is really the only place that they take welfare anything like seriously and send riders and their mounts to be weighed. I do a lot of BRC events and despite being affiliated with the BHS they do absolutely nothing about very large riders on ponies / horses. Sadly nowadays most people think fat shaming is worse than animal abuse and nobody will dare to weigh a large rider at a show where they are on their own horse😭😭😭. Parent in this case is shameful.

donkey? there's only one of those on here...

I can't understand why you still think you're right about your daughter riding that tiny horse...

Well you are correct about that.

Ignoring her weight for the moment, do you really look at that jumping picture and think that your daughter is riding well?

yes police. they have to be involved in offences in order to bring charges.

your daughter is deliberately riding a pony she is far too heavy for. you are also complicit in this. it will be doimg long term damage to the pony which will taje a long time to show but then the animal will be in constant back pain. That’ll cost you money in bute or whatever painkillers they use nowadays.

why oh why can you not see what you are doing is wrong? Do you honestly not think that pony is struggling a bit? How many people need to tell you this?

Tell you what, phone the RSPCA and ask for advice about a 17 year old girl riding a 12.2 pony and tell them her actual weight (weigh her in clothes and boots carrying her mobile phone ie a realistic picture) and see if they thibk it’s ok. Send then the photo.

If they do say it’s fine, i and all the others will stand corrected. You can put us right. Go on ask them. They know all about animals. You can trust their advice.

I am 'horsey' in the sense that I love them, and I also love to ride and am reasonable at it (local riding school watched me in a lesson once and had no qualms having me out on a ride the next time I went, that sort of level) but I am in no way vastly experienced or professional.

I honestly recoiled when I saw those photos-she's far too heavy for that pony and barebacking? Even an experienced rider is 'heavier' without stirrups and the weight not as evenly distributed, she will potentially cause him an injury following that jump. And she's yanking at his mouth, effectively signalling 'stop/slow down' while he's mid-jump, reins aren't there to hang onto for dear life!

Nobody should have allowed this. That pony must have such a lovely temperament too.
Poor thing.

Ditto. I’m returning gently to riding and rode last week - made it absolutely clear when I rang the stables that they knew my weight and height and checked their horses would be ok with me - and I way less than the daughter on the 12’2 pony.

It is shocking that she is riding it at all let alone jumping bareback. Look at its mouth :(

To be quite frank most of the RSPCA know fuck all about horses.

If you want to refer to yourself as a donkey over an animal abuser then please, continue

can you tell from one pic that she is?

not struggling at all. literally popping jumps.

The jump picture is awful, sorry. Why is she pulling at the pony's mouth?

I think you're on a wind-up.

I have 150 horse years of owning experience, have watched thousands of horses and riders over 50 years, daily for the last 30 of those, and yes it's perfectly obvious that your daughter is hanging into that pony by his mouth.

I have already explained to you how to tell he is struggling and shown you a cropped picture of his hind legs to show you exactly what I meant.

This is what I wrote:

"Sound horses jumping within their capabilities take off from the floor with both hind feet at the same moment with both hind feet the same distance from the fence (unless they are being put at the fence at an angle).

The split leg stance with his pasterns hitting the floor that the pony is showing is indicative of the fact that he is either unsound or carrying too much weight, or both."

Here's an outline of rider weights guide for a 12HH pony.

your overweight adult daughter needs a new horse not that poor little pony. what is wrong with you that you cannot see that?