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Whether you're a permanent teacher, supply teacher or student teacher, you'll find others in the same situation on our Staffroom forum.

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The Fourth Republic Rises - solidarity comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 10/05/2020 14:49

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are not staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 11/05/2020 19:30

I love my job but I am pragmatic. I was wiping my desk, door handles etc the two weeks before lockdown. Anyone coughing in my class as a joke got an automatic detention.

I started out as a nice friendly cuddly teacher but by the time I was deputy I could break up a fight before I reached the culprits. Now I have a glare that could freeze the Sahara desert (I was chuffed when the HoD Geography told me that)

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ChloeDecker · 11/05/2020 19:30

Thanks for that link Appuskidu

Interesting paragraphs...

The majority of staff in education settings will not require PPE beyond what they would normally need for their work, even if they are not always able to maintain a distance of 2 metres from others.

cleaning frequently touched surfaces often using standard products, such as detergents and bleach -where will these come from and will mean teachers still doing the cleaning.

So, nope, teachers aren’t afforded the same level of workplace protection as most others.

Mistressiggi · 11/05/2020 19:30

The majority of staff in education settings will not require PPE beyond what they would normally need for their work, even if they are not always able to maintain a distance of 2 metres from others.
Fuck off. For fucks sake. Fine if the 2m idea is gone by June but if not this is crazy.

PerplexingWords · 11/05/2020 19:32

I just took the bait on the new “who doesn’t want to go back to work” thread. 😔

Mistressiggi · 11/05/2020 19:32

Where the physical layout of a setting does not allow small groups of children to be kept at a safe distance apart, we expect practitioners to exercise judgement in ensuring the highest standards of safety are maintained
Practitioners - that you guys, right? So it's your fault if high safety standards aren't followed?

HipTightOnions · 11/05/2020 19:34

Face coverings may be beneficial for short periods indoors where there is a risk of close social contact with people you do not usually meet and where social distancing and other measures cannot be maintained, for example on public transport or in some shops. This does not apply to schools

Why not? When the close contact is for long periods?

Piggywaspushed · 11/05/2020 19:35

Does this face to face support mean they are going to enforce video lessons perhaps?

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 11/05/2020 19:36

@FrippEnos - I will be wearing a face mask, I will be washing hands & using hand gel, I will not be handing out pens etc, I will only accept work uploaded to Microsoft Teams

I am paid to deliver good results at my school and they have been outstanding. It means that my subject recruits well. Students know not to piss me off because I turn from nice to menacing in a heart beat.

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MossWalk · 11/05/2020 19:36

So it's your fault if high safety standards aren't followed?

It will be our fault for putting in high safety standards- we'll be cruel, we'll be lazy, we'll be putting ourself first.

It will also be our fault, if, as a result of not putting in high safety standards, a child or parent contracts covid.

cos kids don't get it.....

HipTightOnions · 11/05/2020 19:37

brief, transitory contact, such as passing in a corridor, is low risk.

Apparently.

HipTightOnions · 11/05/2020 19:38

support staff may be drawn on in the event there are teacher shortages, working under the direction of other teachers in the setting.

Grasspigeons · 11/05/2020 19:38

Have you seen the bit where it says groups of 15 and if there arent enough teachers or classrooms children might go to another setting!

Appuskidu · 11/05/2020 19:38

So, fifteen children to a class then by the looks of it??

Saucery · 11/05/2020 19:38

Cheers, Moss I’ll be back to my usual cynical, bouncy, stealth-Dettol-wielding self tomorrow, I’m sure.
We’re not the only workers being shoved into a 2nd or 3rd wave with no shits given about us, after all.
Hay fever sore throat ain’t going to be ignored as Unlikely To Be Covid 19 if we end up in crowded classes, that’s for sure.It’ll be self isolation and wait for a wonky test.

RigaBalsam · 11/05/2020 19:39

Classes of 15 so how can they all return fully? They can't

Piggywaspushed · 11/05/2020 19:39

This answers a few people's questions:

Clinically vulnerable individuals who are at higher risk of severe illness (for example, people with some pre-existing conditions as set out in the Staying at home and away from others (social distancing) guidance have been advised to take extra care in observing social distancing and should work from home where possible. Education and childcare settings should endeavour to support this, for example by asking staff to support remote education, carry out lesson planning or other roles which can be done from home. If clinically vulnerable (but not clinically extremely vulnerable) individuals cannot work from home, they should be offered the safest available on-site roles, staying 2 metres away from others wherever possible, although the individual may choose to take on a role that does not allow for this distance if they prefer to do so. If they have to spend time within 2 metres of other people, settings must carefully assess and discuss with them whether this involves an acceptable level of risk.

Saucery · 11/05/2020 19:40

Ha! Our support staff are the ones with the highest absence rate due to being shielded or having someone at home to shield and aren’t currently on rota, so no chance of cover there.

Piggywaspushed · 11/05/2020 19:42

Eh?

consider how children and young people arrive at the education or childcare setting, and reduce any unnecessary travel on coaches, buses or public transport where possible (guidance will shortly be published on safe travel)

CallmeAngelina · 11/05/2020 19:44

Oh, here we go.
It's been, ooh, 48 hours since the last teacher-bashing thread?
This one

TheHoneyBadger · 11/05/2020 19:44

Schools and colleges should use their best endeavours to support pupils attending as well as those remaining at home, making use of the available remote education support.

RigaBalsam · 11/05/2020 19:45

That teacher at the briefing could have asked so much more.

I got the impression Vallance doesn't agree with Bojo.

Piggywaspushed · 11/05/2020 19:47

I didn't hear a teacher question?

ineedaholidaynow · 11/05/2020 19:47

@Piggywaspushed I was thinking that with respect to Y10s. What is the point of trying to get Y10s into school, including sorting out transport and classrooms, if they are just having face to face contact, which doesn't sound like lessons.

Piggywaspushed · 11/05/2020 19:47

This explains why they want us all in the same small groups :

Where the child, young person or staff member tests positive, the rest of their class or group within their childcare or education setting should be sent home and advised to self-isolate for 14 days. The other household members of that wider class or group do not need to self-isolate unless the child, young person or staff member they live with in that group subsequently develops symptoms.

Piggywaspushed · 11/05/2020 19:49

Also iwant they keep saying don't do anything face to face Grin Sideways on teaching is the new norm.

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