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The Teachers’s Republic Refuge - solidarity comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 28/04/2020 13:34

So continuing on from our boycott/flowers we need to continue to defend our profession. This is teacher/school staff chat - if you do not fall into that category please start you own thread elsewhere.

#solidarity

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TheHoneyBadger · 04/05/2020 13:38
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Still doesn’t add up though does it? She claims to work at one village school?

I’ve never actually seen an edpsych in any school I’ve worked at anyway. I thought they were off in an ivory tower somewhere

MsAwesomeDragon · 04/05/2020 13:43

I've met our ed psych twice Shock. Both times she was observing a child in one of my lessons (apparently she likes to observe in a core subject). She seemed like a nice lady. I only got the briefest of info back, as a new ehcp for the child in question.

WhyNotMe40 · 04/05/2020 13:48

We've had the edpsychs in to give us training on trauma and attachment. Lovely ladies, not much I didn't already know from my own research (gotta love future learn courses), and nothing that was applicable to the classroom situation. Pastoral yes, classroom, not really.

pfrench · 04/05/2020 14:20

I'm a SENDCO - EPs don't really know the realities of the classroom. The suggestions they provide are often completely unrealistic. I've known one really good one, who was probably really good because by the time we called her in to the tune of £500, we'd already put in place all the possible suggestions she could make. Made her work for her money, spend time with children properly etc.

pfrench · 04/05/2020 14:36

I've just been told that MS Teams will be ready for us to 'teach with' within the next week. The fact that they are rolling this out, and the direction has been centrally, makes me wonder if we're going to be doing distance learning for some time. Even if not for all children.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2020 14:40

We had one come in once to observe a girl who could not function at all in mainstream (very very low literacy, huge EBD issues, very extreme difficulties working with TAs, regular meltdowns). She observed my lesson, said she saw no issues that the TA and I couldn't address by basically teaching her better. I was so furious. After this 'diagnosis' , the poor girl got worse and worse. Left school with no qualifications other than a step up to English butt he EP said she felt she could access a full suite of GCSEs.

pfrench · 04/05/2020 14:48

Oh it's always Quality First Teaching. That undermines your ability to teach the other 29 children in the class. Or whatever.

TheHoneyBadger · 04/05/2020 14:53

Schools being the hub of inclusion would work much better if they were also the hub of professionals needed to do it. Having to pay £500 for an Ed Psych to come in is insane.

RigaBalsam · 04/05/2020 14:54

Listening to LBC its quite different to this horrible place.

Lots of sympathy for callers who are driving instructors, librarians, and even a charity shop manager. Sheila saying they can't do their job its nit possible. Nobody would say that to teachers.

However next segment was from parents saying it should be September and the government are too soon.

Call from Sadiq Khan saying it will be a challenge and should not be in rush hour.

Much more understanding than on Mumsnet.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2020 14:58

I think MN is a very specific bubble. Lots more private and grammar school parents, lots more very affluent parents, too. Many more self employed and SAHPs of high disposable income. Higher level of education than average. And more home educators than you will ever meet in your entire life. Active SEN activists (for want of a better word!). Not all If indeed any) of these things are bad by all means , but they give a certain timbre to the site.

The university strikes and fees boards are always an eye opener, too.

Those exact same posters who teacher bash fit into quite a few of the categories above, and often claim that MN is some hot bed of socialism !

FlamingoAndJohn · 04/05/2020 15:11

Lots of sympathy for callers who are driving instructors, librarians, and even a charity shop manager

Well the driving instructor just needs to change their attitude.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2020 15:14

Just posted this on the wrong thread Blush:

Shielded “extremely vulnerable” people will be banned from any work that isn’t carried out at home. Businesses must help non-shielded “vulnerable” people work from home where possible, or take extra care enforcing social distancing around them in the workplace. Extremely vulnerable individuals are defined as those with specific medical conditions, such as various cancers.

I thought some of you would want to know this ahs been leaked. Not about schools, though . I think appu , you were wondering? As am I.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2020 15:14

crack on is the phrase du jour, I believe flamingo!

FlamingoAndJohn · 04/05/2020 15:20

Surely the driving instructor could manage it if they tried hard enough. It’s this kind of defeatist attitude that causes pandemics.

Or some other bollocks.

Appuskidu · 04/05/2020 15:24

Businesses must help non-shielded “vulnerable” people work from home where possible

I suppose that’s what’s in the original gov stuff. It is v much down to what your HT is like, I suppose. If they say it’s ‘not possible’ to WFT when schools reopen, then you’re back?!

Asuitablecat · 04/05/2020 15:29

I just think there a lack of stiff upper lip these days; mainly due to liberal teaching. National service would put paid to a lot of this.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2020 15:41

Indeed appu, but if they make you come in they have to ensure they can take measures to SD you.

I'd make sure your union rep is converse with all this...

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2020 15:46

Besides which all (unchecked fact) driving pupils are ALL 17 (blatantly stupid assertion) and there is no scientific evidence (wildly unsubstantiated pseudo scientific claim) that 17 year olds can epidemiologically pass on CoVid (use of pedantic capitalisation to prove medical knowledge) and can't everyone homecraft a mask and some gloves anyway from their WW2 rationing stockpile (patronising rhetorical question for effect)? This is what my cousin's friend's mother said who was a driving instructor during the Spanish Flu (made up bollocks)

Or, the can just open a window. The virus will go out of the window. (make something up if panicking)

phlebasconsidered · 04/05/2020 16:42

If we did some quality first teaching to the virus, would it get better? It apparently works to fix everything else.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/05/2020 16:50
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Interesting discussion on PM re schools. Sir Dan's quote "SD will be interesting in primary..." (basically he can't see it)

Saoirse7 · 04/05/2020 16:51

That thread should just read AIBU to worry about teacher shortages #endthread 😒

The suggestions shown shows the actual lack of knowledge about how classrooms are ran and the amenities available to us are just staggering.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/05/2020 16:54

Yes Sao, and a random comment about "vulnerable categories changing" too Confused

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/05/2020 17:01

The radio 4 pm piece on schools was quite good; recognising all the various difficulties and also that staffing would be hard and many pupils wouldn't come back as parents would choose not to for vulnerability reasons. And that Sen pupils and primary would be v challenging.

greathat · 04/05/2020 17:04

One of our local secondaries has told parents they will be open to years 10 and 12 on 1st June. Why the fuck would they do that?! Now all the other parents will get wind of it and start demanding the others do the same

noblegiraffe · 04/05/2020 17:05

crack on is the phrase du jour, I believe

Along with ‘get a grip’.

I’m feeling a bit discombobulated today. I’ve been on twitter where some irate ICU nurses (or family) in the US have been tweeting about how awful the virus is, never seen anything like it, healthy people suffering badly etc in an attempt to get the absolute fuckwits over there who are out protesting for their right to have a picnic in Central Park to stay indoors.

And here it’s ‘Let’s get back to work, folks, the NHS will be fine. What are you worried about?!’

It’s like why would you be worried about catching it now that there are ventilators available?

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