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Misogynist Jeremy Clarkson gets his comeuppance… but what can be done about the thousands of other Meghan/confident-woman haters?

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TallerSally · 02/07/2023 16:11

Have you noticed how genuine good news such as the above regarding Meghan often gets overlooked, while haters fall over themselves to create content from every tidbit non-event which can be spun as bad news? The Meghannilation pile-ons are ferocious and unrelenting, seeking to destroy the woman and perhaps end her life, while making money from clicks and views along the way. Every has-been and non-entity seeking to raise their sagging or non-existent profile (Mia Farrow? Chris Rock? Millie Mackintosh? random Spotify exec? Z-list YouTuber?) just has to find some creative insult for Meghan like “grifter”, and it’s days of front pages guaranteed. And not just in the UK’s tabloids, the broadsheets frequently jump in on it too. JC (not Jesus Christ)’s one article got slapped down, no small thanks to 25000+ principled residents of our nation who sent complaints to IPSO, the 64 cross-party MPs who signed a letter of protest, and the two charities who were signatories to the official IPSO complaint. At least there’s a shred of decency, perhaps even empathy, left in public discourse in the UK. Many celebrities get roasted in the British press, but the level of obsessive hatred Meghan faces is unprecedented – the stuff of PhD’s on parallels between media and online mobbing today and public floggings and executions of ancient Rome or medieval times – in that respect JC was inadvertently on to something: Meghan is already being paraded in the streets and excrement thrown at her, only virtually.

Anyway so one misogynist and the media outlet supporting him get their knuckles rapped, but what about the hordes of other armchair tormentors, who from the darkness of their bedrooms bombard the world (well, mostly the UK) with hundreds, perhaps THOUSANDS of Meg-hating articles, blogs, vlogs, Twitter rants, Facebook posts, YouTube or TikTok videos EVERY SINGLE WEEK? The woman has barely said a word or shown her face in public in the past year, yet you’d think it’s her picture on the front pages every week in a different costume, tennis whites, camouflage, bee-keeping suit… (and no doubt soon, space-suit?)

It’s impossible for a body like IPSO to regulate so many haters and platforms they use, yet the impact such intense public vilification has on a person is equivalent to JC’s article to the power of six. What can restore some form of respect for the truth, and basic empathy for a fellow human being and mother, who has committed no crime or spent no time befriending paedophiles?

[Title of thread edited to say Jeremy Clarkson, not Jeremy Clarke]

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SophiaElise · 02/07/2023 16:17

I wish I knew the answer, OP...

Soontobe60 · 02/07/2023 16:23

What on earth are you on about???

Tlolljs · 02/07/2023 16:26

And breathe.

Quitelikeit · 02/07/2023 16:27

To put things into perspective

Many millions of people don’t bother to read articles about Meghan.

It’s all rubbish. They fled from the media, are in the process of suing the media and they are suffering for that hence shitty articles.

I have nothing against them nor Clarkson!

In fact I love Clarkson and he was only joking

morelippy · 02/07/2023 16:30

OP I couldn't get that het up about either of them...

MoChridhe · 02/07/2023 16:31

It's a difficult one OP. Hating her is a multibillion dollar industry. Pays all the loser's bill. Slap her name in a headline and it will be clicked on. Even long forgotten z listers like Kelly Osbourne are seeking to revive interest in them using HER.

Teentaxidriver · 02/07/2023 16:32

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clyspa · 02/07/2023 17:08

I don't think anyone really cares about M to the degree you think. I take part in these threads sometimes but otherwise am not thinking about her at all - why would anyone?

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Iwantcakeeveryday · 02/07/2023 17:25

OP I agree with your overall concerns regarding not just this particular vile and degrading article and the persecution of Meghan but also the general problems we have with the overwhelming negativity on social media. I do not know what can be done about it, its an issue affecting society and not something any organisation or government can really tackle. We know it has led to severe mental health issues for a lot of people, famous or not, and sadly some suicides. The anonymity of platforms like this, twitter etc is part of the issue, most people don't go too overboard if using their own names. This board would be different if people actually had to be themselves.

Recently MNHQ have asked us to remember their guidelines, which include no deliberately inflammatory and goady posts, and no troll hunting- asking if someone is paid PR is considered troll hunting.

Mixedberrygenderfluidmuffin · 02/07/2023 18:45

The IPSO finding is ridiculous, it was a joke, obviously not to everyone's taste (I thought it was funny), but no more sexist than it was racist. It was purely Meghan-ist.

MoChridhe · 02/07/2023 18:57

Mixedberrygenderfluidmuffin · 02/07/2023 18:45

The IPSO finding is ridiculous, it was a joke, obviously not to everyone's taste (I thought it was funny), but no more sexist than it was racist. It was purely Meghan-ist.

You found that article funny! How disgusting.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 02/07/2023 19:06

Theres nothing funny about sexually violent and humiliating fantasies or hatred of another person you don't know. It's just disturbing.

RoundandRounnnd · 02/07/2023 19:59

It’s a combination of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, self-promotion and plain old envy. If you look at the profiles of many of these individuals you’ll find that they share a similar demographic. You would hope they’d be old enough to know better. Unfortunately only half of that sentence is true. However, saying that, I don’t think there are as many people who have an active dislike for H&M as some would lead us to believe. It seems to be a few determined individuals who employ underhand tactics, including creating multiple social media accounts, to relentlessly target the royal couple – as revealed by an investigation by the Twitter analytics service Bot Sentinel.
These same individuals also find asinine reasons to discredit anyone who utters a good word about the couple. On sites such as MN this usually follows them being reported. Be prepared OP.

Spectre8 · 02/07/2023 20:16

It is quite eyebrow raising when there have been multiple articles of William or Kate out and about and pretty much zero new threads started about them scrutinising ror commenting oneach event, conversely if it had been H or M or both every single event would have seen multiple threads started on here.

Even when these past few weeks even months have been pretty 'quiet' you still see new threads popping up, albeit going back over old stuff.

Some people just love to hate and tear other ppl down and our media and social media fans the flames even further

Sick world we live in

skullbabe · 02/07/2023 20:28

Every day - there is an article about her regardless of the fact that she has been relatively low profile and silent. Thread after thread going over the same things over and over again. Repeated ways to be needlessly spiteful and give her no quarter. It’s never ending. Give this thread a minute @TallerSally - the Meghan “justified criticism” people will descend soon and find ways to justify the Clarkson’s language rhetoric.

DojaPhat · 02/07/2023 20:34

If you look at the profiles of many of these individuals you’ll find that they share a similar demographic.

This is very true. I wonder if they genuinely thought either they or their daughters were Harry's bride-in-waiting. But their attitude towards Meghan doesn't shock me one bit when I consider all things about their general attitude regarding women they deem beneath them.

PrincessTigger · 02/07/2023 20:42

I don’t know how I feel about it to be honest. I thought the article was horrible when I read it. But I also recognised it was clearly a reference to a Game of Thrones scene. I really don’t like the latest trend of people taking jokes deadly seriously no matter how poor taste they are. I don’t think we even need taste to be policed.

I also don’t get the point of the IPSO ruling. We all know it’s sexist, it’s obvious. Does that mean that everything else they’re not ruling on isn’t sexist? Who died and put them in charge of deciding what we can call sexist?

I thought it was a horrible, stupid joke… but I also think this ruling was at best pointless, at worst massive overreach.

Gracewithoutend · 02/07/2023 21:05

@TallerSally
Every has-been and non-entity seeking to raise their sagging or non-existent profile (Mia Farrow? Chris Rock? Millie Mackintosh? random Spotify exec? Z-list YouTuber?) just has to find some creative insult for Meghan like “grifter”,

What can restore some form of respect for the truth,

How about you getting your facts right for a start?

Bill Simmons called her and Harry a grifter.
He's not a has-been nor a non-entity. His profile isn't sagging and he doesn't need it raising.
He isn't a random Spotify exec. He sold them a podcast network that he built from the ground for $250m. It's the second podcast network he's built - the first was for that tiny and insignificant broadcaster ESPN. Oh and before that he was one of the most widely read sportswriters across the whole if the USA. And he got headhunted to work for Jimmy Kimmel as one of his writers based on the quality of the columns he wrote.

He not only created 2 podcast networks but he also does podcast broadcasts as well. When spotify bought his network, they gave him a job to carry on running The Ringer podcast network and increase it. Which he has done. He's now tasked with building up the network to cover European sports. And on top of all that, he does 4 podcasts a week.

He's also in the top 40 most influential podcasters. There's not much he doesn't know about podcasting and he's attempted to work with and help Harry. So I guess he knows more about their situation and their attitude to work than you do.

I get your zeal in standing up for Meghan and Harry, I might even acknowledge it's merited, but before you start discrediting other people who have worked hard and are genuinely talented maybe you should do a bit of research of the facts. Because when you talk about restoring respect for the truth maybe it should start with you.

TallerSally · 02/07/2023 22:22

@Gracewithoutend He's also in the top 40 most influential podcasters. There's not much he doesn't know about podcasting and he's attempted to work with and help Harry. So I guess he knows more about their situation and their attitude to work than you do.

Really?

Even if he invented the podcast, how would a couple of meetings with H&M make him (and presumably, you) an expert on "their situation and their attitude to work"? Is he a mental health expert deeply experienced in assessing "attitudes to work", including those of ultra-high-profile mothers of two young kids, who left the Royal Family and are now at the receiving end of dozens of books and hundreds of hateful articles per week written by total strangers and by their own family members, who have to fear constantly for her life because - to quote security services in the UK - "credible [death] threats" were made against them, who have stalkers trying to break into their houses as happened to Meghan recently?

Is he a time management expert, who knows how much time and mental energy it takes a person every day to make decisions on whether to issue statements or threaten legal action in response to defamatory content popping up every day, or indeed how long it takes to prepare for court hearings? Or be constantly discussing security arrangements for every school run or trip to the doctor or supermarket.

Clearly, your "facts" about Bill Simmons are irrelevant to the matter at hand, as he is in no position whatsoever to judge whether H&M are "grifters" - no-one who isn't living their life is, and that includes you.

I suspect I am not alone in finding that Bill Simmons' spiteful and disproportionate online abuse of a former business partner was in extremely poor taste (not to mention foul-mouthed, which says a lot about the man), and lacking in humanity.

Brings me back to my original post: a) folks focusing on the negative while ignoring the fact that Meghan's podcast won a People's Choice award (beating Conan O'Brien) and a Gracie award for top Entertainment Podcast Host (but hey, they're not Bill Simmons so what do they know about podcasts?), and b) a random Spotify exec no-one outside the business had ever heard of attempting to detract from the fact that his company is struggling and needing to review its business model by blasting Meghan with catchy insults in the classic Meghannilation pile-on.

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Mixedberrygenderfluidmuffin · 02/07/2023 18:45

The IPSO finding is ridiculous, it was a joke, obviously not to everyone's taste (I thought it was funny), but no more sexist than it was racist. It was purely Meghan-ist.

You found it funny? You sound like an awful person tbh

PerfectYear321 · 02/07/2023 22:31

IPSO sounds pointless....just like every 'body' in this declining country

You can basically do whatever the hell you want these days

ZebraDilemma · 02/07/2023 22:33

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PerfectYear321 · 02/07/2023 22:38

ZebraDilemma · 02/07/2023 22:33

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We keeping you up, love? Why don't you take yourself off to bed or, you know, scroll on by if it's so boring

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