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Ham pr disasters 58! …things are getting strange….I’m starting to worry….this could be a case for mulder and scully! ..

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jeffgoldblum · 26/10/2026 19:10

gillian anderson hallucination GIF

Well ….confusion reigns supreme! , more and more information dribbling out! , still no idea what is going on! ….its time for outside help!

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:31

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 23:29

I suspect that there was a significant imbalance of power in her relationship with Thomas. She was only 21 when she met the previously married mid 30s lighting director. I suspect her targeted her specifically as a compliant young woman who he then used to raise his vile teenage kids who thought it was funny to nick name her The Maid. His previous wife references his terrible behaviour and Tom jr has corroborated witnessing similar behaviour to Doria. She was probably a victim of CC / DA. She must be reeling about these latest allegations. I wonder if MM told her about the 2019 letter. And I wonder if TMS shared the 2025 letter from MM with TMj and Samantha.

This is purely your assumption, what has been mentioned by family and friends is that Doria is no shrinking violet and a free spirit …not the type of woman you are describing at all , let’s not retrofit things to suit our narrative shall we!!

I would further add that at this time these are allegations and we have no idea if he’s actually guilty or not!!
innocent until proven guilty, isn’t just a catch phrase you know!!!

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Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:34

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 23:20

She didn’t. PH did.

At one point in the Netlix crock-umentary she says she warned MM that, once her relationship with H came out, it would become about race.
Typo

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 23:35

AcrossthePond55 · Yesterday 23:25

@AllegationsMayVary

It’s an interesting change in tone from the usual banging on and demanding reconciliation etc to now almost obsequious - over explaining, sort of begging - suggests to me that this is his only communication channel to KC3 to get any messages through.

Maybe they're entering a 'Uriah Heep' period.

Well it’s certainly a gear change. Plan B after Plan A got no traction. I am sure normal service will be resumed (tantruming) when this current approach proves to have no purchase as it slithers down the grey rock.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:36

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:34

At one point in the Netlix crock-umentary she says she warned MM that, once her relationship with H came out, it would become about race.
Typo

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A bad memory is apparently catching lately…as is twisting and retrofitting past events to suit current narratives!

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twosmallaxolotls · Yesterday 23:36

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:31

This is purely your assumption, what has been mentioned by family and friends is that Doria is no shrinking violet and a free spirit …not the type of woman you are describing at all , let’s not retrofit things to suit our narrative shall we!!

I would further add that at this time these are allegations and we have no idea if he’s actually guilty or not!!
innocent until proven guilty, isn’t just a catch phrase you know!!!

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Excellent points. I think some people are getting carried away with unsubstantiated rumours and conjecture.

twosmallaxolotls · Yesterday 23:37

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:36

A bad memory is apparently catching lately…as is twisting and retrofitting past events to suit current narratives!

Quite the problem

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:37

twosmallaxolotls · Yesterday 23:36

Excellent points. I think some people are getting carried away with unsubstantiated rumours and conjecture.

Just like a certain couple…..

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AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 23:38

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:34

At one point in the Netlix crock-umentary she says she warned MM that, once her relationship with H came out, it would become about race.
Typo

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Yes that’s her ref to racist media as I outlined which was not a ‘RF are racist line’ that you are claiming.

AcrossthePond55 · Yesterday 23:38

Kingzandqueens · Yesterday 23:31

I don't think we'll ever know what Doria knows as she seems very private & doesn't court the press.

I feel that Doria is a 'private person', as opposed to her 'public figure DD and SiL. Just because one has a 'famous' child that doesn't make one public property.

IMHO she owes 'the world' nothing. She doesn't need to explain nor justify her absence from M's life nor where she is now or what she's doing. Nor does she need to say what she knew or didn't know about her exH's proclivities. There's nothing wrong with us being curious or even speculating, as long as we're clear it's purely speculation. But at the end of the day, it's really none of our business.

I wouldn't want to be the parent of a famous person for all the tea in China. It probably wasn't anything you ever planned for, expected, or enjoy.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:39

Kingzandqueens · Yesterday 23:05

Crying😂 Tom Junior hasn't shown his full hand yet, God only knows what's next on his agenda!

Maybe Tommy J calling Oprah as we speak

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:43

The ridiculous Times article. wtf is the point ? I bet anything the MIGS / staff whatever don't even show this written diarrhoea to KC, PW etc

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:43

AcrossthePond55 · Yesterday 23:21

I've been pondering this too. And why she didn't come to the UK (even temporarily to help settle the kids) when the 'Back to the Future' return to the UK occurred. And neither HaMs have mentioned her name.

Maybe she just got tired of all the drama that seems to surround Ham and stayed behind. Maybe they had a fall out. Maybe she 'knew what was coming' (the TMSr situation), wanted no part in it and was afraid that M would drag her into it. No matter what her past has been, she strikes me as someone who wants to 'fly under the radar'. I don't mean that as in she 'has something to hide', just that she prefers to live a 'private life'.

Perhaps she has her own life to lead?

Why should we be expecting her to be her grown-married-45yo-daughter-with-a-massive-house-and-an-Office-Off-level 's sidekick? I go weeks w/o seeing my DD, and she lives 20 mins away.

In a solid nuclear family, why would mum and dad expect or need granny to help settle the kiddies in?

Has anyone hhere ever moved abroad and expected their mum to come and settle the kids in?

Kingzandqueens · Yesterday 23:43

AcrossthePond55 · Yesterday 23:38

I feel that Doria is a 'private person', as opposed to her 'public figure DD and SiL. Just because one has a 'famous' child that doesn't make one public property.

IMHO she owes 'the world' nothing. She doesn't need to explain nor justify her absence from M's life nor where she is now or what she's doing. Nor does she need to say what she knew or didn't know about her exH's proclivities. There's nothing wrong with us being curious or even speculating, as long as we're clear it's purely speculation. But at the end of the day, it's really none of our business.

I wouldn't want to be the parent of a famous person for all the tea in China. It probably wasn't anything you ever planned for, expected, or enjoy.

Doria's doing well & doesn't need to justify herself to anyone. It seems to that the press leave her be also & she doesn't court them. Good on her.

Her daughter definitely takes after the Markles!

Kingzandqueens · Yesterday 23:45

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:39

Maybe Tommy J calling Oprah as we speak

God only knows where he'll show up but my popcorn at the ready. I have a feeling Tommy boy is holding the cards!

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:46

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:24

It’s probably me …but I can’t see what looks have to do with it?!

Well, she scrubbed up well enough to get a seat in St George's chapel, while the male equivalent of Roseanne didn't.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:46

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:46

Well, she scrubbed up well enough to get a seat in St George's chapel, while the male equivalent of Roseanne didn't.

😂😂

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:46

AcrossthePond55 · Yesterday 23:25

@AllegationsMayVary

It’s an interesting change in tone from the usual banging on and demanding reconciliation etc to now almost obsequious - over explaining, sort of begging - suggests to me that this is his only communication channel to KC3 to get any messages through.

Maybe they're entering a 'Uriah Heep' period.

Uriah Heep defrauded his employer.

Kingzandqueens · Yesterday 23:47

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:46

Well, she scrubbed up well enough to get a seat in St George's chapel, while the male equivalent of Roseanne didn't.

Male equivalent of Rosanne😂

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:50

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:46

Uriah Heep defrauded his employer.

Well, there you go

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:51

Why weren't Tom J and Samantha at the wedding?

AllegationsMayVary · Yesterday 23:52

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:36

A bad memory is apparently catching lately…as is twisting and retrofitting past events to suit current narratives!

Yes exactly - plenty of examples where accuracy has needed to be addressed.

twosmallaxolotls · Yesterday 23:53

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:51

Why weren't Tom J and Samantha at the wedding?

I think they'd already started acting like arses. I recall a damning letter to Prince Harry and other charming episodes.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 23:54

twosmallaxolotls · Yesterday 23:53

I think they'd already started acting like arses. I recall a damning letter to Prince Harry and other charming episodes.

Is this the letter warning Harry not to let Meg near children or animals ??

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 23:54

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 23:46

Well, she scrubbed up well enough to get a seat in St George's chapel, while the male equivalent of Roseanne didn't.

I believe it was the looseness of the tongue rather than the looseness of the waistband that was the ultimate reason!

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BasiliskStare · Yesterday 23:55

Just to quickly say for those who in my opinion are quite rightly rubbishing the Doria went to prison rumour - I am sure I read somewhere a while ago , some person found a prison record for a Dorian (or similar ) Ragland (male) for some drugs related thing. & so the rumours started.
There's opinion and there's unsubstantiated rumour in my book. If I'm wrong , I'll take any proof , but in this instance I think it unfortunate rumour.