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Ham pr disasters 58! …things are getting strange….I’m starting to worry….this could be a case for mulder and scully! ..

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jeffgoldblum · 26/10/2026 19:10

gillian anderson hallucination GIF

Well ….confusion reigns supreme! , more and more information dribbling out! , still no idea what is going on! ….its time for outside help!

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 12:16

AutumnCrowOnTheUFO · Yesterday 11:43

Yes. I do understand the 'both sides' MSM tactic, but this is child sexual abuse we're talking about not the usual PR crap they deal with, and there really is actual shoddy journalism going on (timeline errors etc). It's leaving a deeply unplesant odour if it is all just a cynical media game, and there's going to be a 'bombshell twist' on Sunday or next week or whenever.

Since when was child sex abuse entertainment?

Yes that’s exactly how I feel! , ham are using CSA as a pr exercise and the media are helping and using it for clicks!
it’s a terrible look all around.

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ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Yesterday 12:16

canklesmctacotits · Yesterday 12:11

I think it’s their press officer / whichever remaining member of staff has been authorized to say on an ad hoc basis abc or xyz to this or that publication. It will never be them directly because they need to be able to say “it wasn’t me” and journos keep records of everything.

Do you think they still have a press officer? I'd assumed they only employed nannies and cleaners now. Someone to book travel too, I suppose. Doubt Haz can manage that.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:16

Harry won't settle anywhere else but UK. This xmas is out but he will want that Sandringham walk Xmas 2027.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:19

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 12:16

I read it, and he is taking it completely for granted that the RF knew about the letter when MM received it, and is bashing the RF for what they didn't do back then.

I hope this link works:

https://archive.is/tJlWm

This also tarnishes HAM though. I doubt HAM let RF know but they will throw them under the bus I guess

Kingzandqueens · Yesterday 12:21

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:16

Harry won't settle anywhere else but UK. This xmas is out but he will want that Sandringham walk Xmas 2027.

I agree with this, I'd say they are devastated no invite was issued for this year & also the state banquet was a reminder they are estranged from the royals

Handbagsandoldcurtains · Yesterday 12:21

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Yesterday 11:53

Thank you! I'm baffled that anyone thinks a "source" or "close friend" is actually a real person other than MM. It's bonkers.
Also when readers discount a recent fact with "but Harry said in Spare" or "in the OW interview they said. X" as if those are historically accurate documents 😂

Does M actually have any close friends?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 12:21

readbutdonotpostoften · Yesterday 12:02

I haven't read the article, but I foresee this situation and media pieces being used to overshadow the forthcoming KC tour. The narrative will most certainly be used to criticise KC further, whilst also dragging up the supposed errors PPOW made on their tour to the same area.

Edit to add - the budget will be making the headlines probably for the remainder of this week, then the weekend papers can pick back up with the HAM/TM articles, I expect with more "exclusives".

My hope, as I have said before, is due process is allowed to run its course for all parties involved which means no newspaper articles, leaks or reporting from "friends".

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Somehow he makes this an issue that might threaten the monarchy itself, because he speculates that the letter may have been suppressed and of course who might have done this - police or what he calls 'an idiotic flunkey' at the palace. Somehow he reckons this is all worse than AMW and could damage the royals. In fairness he does question what MM knew, but it's his usual pop at the royals. And he assumes that the allegations were forgotten about (subtext is that that was deliberate).

Nowhere does he mention anything about the conflicting stories we're getting from the Markle camp, that the investigation has been interfered with by the Markle camp, or that all the allegations about TMS are just that.

In short it's his usual pompous pontificating.

BigWillyLittleTodger · Yesterday 12:21

IAmATorturedPoet · Yesterday 11:33

A permanent move to the other side of the world would be good. I hope Australia rolls out the red carpet and makes them feel very welcome 🤞🤞

No offence to Australia but they would also be big fishes in a small pond, there are not vast swathes of A listers like there are in California to compete with, no William and Catherine they have to play second fiddle to, it could be a very appealing prospect to the HAMs as they are so desperate to be top dog somewhere on the planet.

smilesy · Yesterday 12:22

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:19

This also tarnishes HAM though. I doubt HAM let RF know but they will throw them under the bus I guess

I think the time for them to have said that the RF knew about this had passed. If they were going to claim that the RF knew and eg told them to do nothing, they should have said that straight away. Drip feeding that sort of thing doesn’t work. It comes across more as making excuses

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 12:22

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Yesterday 12:08

Perjury could be good reason to remove the titles, so probably just a matter of time.

Let's hope there are people (legals) working on that (behind the scenes) now.

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 12:24

smilesy · Yesterday 12:22

I think the time for them to have said that the RF knew about this had passed. If they were going to claim that the RF knew and eg told them to do nothing, they should have said that straight away. Drip feeding that sort of thing doesn’t work. It comes across more as making excuses

Yes. A few years ago she would have claimed the RF knew too. Not now. They need the RF now.

mysoddenbananabread · Yesterday 12:24

readbutdonotpostoften · Yesterday 11:39

Meghan goes to Australia (if the TV deal is true), Harry and children remain here, after all Harry said he is a stay at home Dad!

Harry and children travel to Australia for the main long summer school break.

Maybe some time away from each other and really allow the children to settle may be the best for all of them.

This is a version of what was predicted weeks ago on here.

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 12:25

BunnyBunbunbun · Yesterday 12:10

"but a she's telling lies again and bringing the RF into disrepute, so..."

I don't think she's bringing the royal family into disrepute at all. The whole world knows that there's been a fallout, it's been loudly declared that they do not represent the King or the royal family in any way, and this latest episode simply underlines the wisdom of the royal family's policy of keeping quiet and not getting involved. The contrast between William and his family and Harry and his family could not be greater and only shows William and Catherine in a positive light.

She is now outside the RF, and KC3 has made sure the world knows it. But she was a working member of the RF for nearly two years, during which The Letter happened.

If she now tells a big, damaging lie about how the RF handled The Letter, or made her handle The Letter, then she would be bringing the RF into disrepute again, regardless of her current status.

Typo edit

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:25

Handbagsandoldcurtains · Yesterday 12:21

Does M actually have any close friends?

There were no close friends at the wedding. Who knows with HAM

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 12:26

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 12:11

I'd really like someone to turn around and deck him one the next time he does that.

On camera.

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 12:26

Harry is a stay at home dad! Wtf else has he got to do.. Be a Prince.. I see..

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:27

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 12:22

Let's hope there are people (legals) working on that (behind the scenes) now.

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When did they commit perjury though ?

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 12:27

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:25

There were no close friends at the wedding. Who knows with HAM

Her MoH - now not friends ofc

SiegfriedSassoon · Yesterday 12:27

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 12:11

I'd really like someone to turn around and deck him one the next time he does that.

Has he always been weird like that? Or is it the Meghan effect? I saw once a video on YouTube where someone had put together about a solid 15/20 minutes of clips of Meghan doing weird things with her hands. Clapping herself a lot and flicking her coat to a fanatical degree so her bump showed. But mostly her hands being everywhere at other people; grabbing them, 'helping' them out their seat or into a seat, steering them. Mostly Harry of course but not limited to. Loads of grabbing, snatching and clawing to get items off of other people.. awards, microphones, gifts. It was quite disconcerting to watch and I think she has some kind of nervous complaint.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:27

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 12:26

Harry is a stay at home dad! Wtf else has he got to do.. Be a Prince.. I see..

Prince of England and he "helps people apparently " get it right please 😂

Dontevenlookatme · Yesterday 12:28

MindThePause · Yesterday 09:57

I’m presuming the offer was made and accepted at least weeks if not months before announcement.

If it holds regardless of current shitstorm, which it could given the announcement wasn’t delayed, I don’t think Australia is a bad move for them for the summer, or longer term.

Her as a TV presenter, him being “just Harry” and the kids far from the British Royal orbit. There’s a fair few positives for the whole family in that, especially if it leads to a longer term career/stay. Good compromise on weather between Californian & Britain. Good compromise culturally between California and Britain. Down to earth in a way that neither posh California and posh Britain are.

As a concept it could offer quite a few positives as a solution to keep the children insulated both in the short (and possibly long) term from the Ghosts of Media Headlines Past.

I agree Australia might be the answer for them in the short term but it presents other problems. If they’re going to move to one of the countries of the Commonwealth, their status needs to be crystal clear.

I’m not in favour of removal of titles for bad behaviour, but I think there’s a case for making changes if the Sussexes are planning on the kind of self promotion we’ve seen during their short stay in the UK.

I don’t know by what mechanism this could happen but to avoid confusion with British royalty, Prince and Princess should be removed for all. Dukedom retained but as a non royal dukedom and reverting to the crown on the death of the current incumbent. All subsidiary titles surrendered. HRH obviously formally removed.

If MM can make a tv career in Oz as the DoS I don’t think many would have any objection to that. Similarly H as whatever he thinks he does for a living. But we need to keep our princes and princesses within the RF.

IAmATorturedPoet · Yesterday 12:30

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 12:11

I'd really like someone to turn around and deck him one the next time he does that.

Me too, and I don’t think we’d be a minority group!

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:32

Dontevenlookatme · Yesterday 12:28

I agree Australia might be the answer for them in the short term but it presents other problems. If they’re going to move to one of the countries of the Commonwealth, their status needs to be crystal clear.

I’m not in favour of removal of titles for bad behaviour, but I think there’s a case for making changes if the Sussexes are planning on the kind of self promotion we’ve seen during their short stay in the UK.

I don’t know by what mechanism this could happen but to avoid confusion with British royalty, Prince and Princess should be removed for all. Dukedom retained but as a non royal dukedom and reverting to the crown on the death of the current incumbent. All subsidiary titles surrendered. HRH obviously formally removed.

If MM can make a tv career in Oz as the DoS I don’t think many would have any objection to that. Similarly H as whatever he thinks he does for a living. But we need to keep our princes and princesses within the RF.

Making a new life for themselves in Australia would be a great idea but HAM don't do great ideas. Harry won't settle anywhere else (IMO) he thrives on the "good ole Harry" schtick and he wants royal status for his kids. He is determined to have them in the royal fold somehow

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 12:34

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 12:16

I read it, and he is taking it completely for granted that the RF knew about the letter when MM received it, and is bashing the RF for what they didn't do back then.

I hope this link works:

https://archive.is/tJlWm

It's full of supposition and 'what if.' He is also ignoring that as far as the palace are concerned, what happens now is nothing to them, these are private citizens.

MerryAquaKoala · Yesterday 12:35

Starryfifty · Yesterday 12:27

When did they commit perjury though ?

That's what I mean. In all of these court cases they've had over the years, was there perjury. She already admitted in court that she 'forgot' they'd input into the awful book. And got away with it. In light of recent events I'd be looking through it all. They've made millions upon millions of their narrative about the RF being nasty and racist and pushing them out, and the press treating them like Diana and being about to cause their deaths - 'finding freedom'. It just wasn't true was it.