Ham pr disasters 54! ….the relentless reconciliation edition…

[jeffgoldblum]

Apologies for my tardiness! , the last thread finished unexpectedly!!! 😱

No she made it crystal clear she felt betrayed by her father for selling a photo of himself getting fitted for a suit & Harry says he himself is the blame for Meghan having no relationship with her father.
The lies & contradictions are extraordinary..

Can we reasonably assume that the Royal Family knew about these allegations if Meghan used her protection to report them? And if so, why did they stand aside while the press attack dogs savaged her for distancing herself from Mr Markle?

The one thing we ( and who the hell elected you to speak for us anyway?) can reasonably assume is that this is a load of balls. MM refused help from the RF, said PH could tell her all she needed, has said that she got no help with her MH and that no-one asked how she was on a tour, and yet she went running to the palace to say 'DF's a paedophile, what do I doooooo?'

'If' MM used her protection to report them' is doing one hell of a lot of heavy lifting there.

Daily Express 2024

Speaking candidly to OK!, Jennie didn't mince her words: "I think it's rather a ridiculous idea to set up a fund for Thomas Markle. I'm sorry that his daughter doesn't want him in her life and I think it's quite cruel of Meghan. However, he has another daughter and a son who surely can perfectly well look after their father."

She continued her critique by saying: "There are an awful lot of people in the world who need money far more than Mr Markle. So I think it's really a mischief-making exercise to make Meghan look bad.

"Meghan seems to have completely severed ties with her American family, except for her mother and perhaps a cousin. It's incredibly sad for Thomas not to know his son-in-law or his grandchildren."

Most of us are using facts, and evidence from the Sussexes themselves; their words, their actions.
What we are responding to is something very silly which is trotted out with surprising frequency; we should not comment on Harry and Meghan because we do not know them, which, I'm sure you'll agree, is a stupid argument.

What's the point of this?

Except you didn't have the facts about her reasons for cutting off her father.

I suspect that during their engagement and leading up to the wedding the Met close protection service and other HMservices were tasked with investigating Meghan’s family background and identifying any current or future risks to the safety (and reputation) of the RF.
As mentioned upthread many cases of CSA - particularly indecent images are identified through forensic analysis of persons downloading images or subscribing to sites. It is very likely that the FBI will have provided the UK services with information that Markle Snr was under some suspicion although not sufficient (at that stage) to pursue and as no longer resident in the US unlikely to go further.
This information will have been shared with HMLQ and then Meghan presumably. Maybe advised or decided to cut contact, frankly the Markle family were a PR nightmare with all their dysfunctional behaviour and selling stories to the press anyrate. Now I have very little sympathy with M in her behaviour in many many other ways - but on this I cannot help think this must have been a nightmare for her and could have been part of the trigger for her claimed mental health crisis and will for the time being give her the benefit of the doubt. There is enough other stuff to castigate HaM about!
However I do think this story will run and run for months and unfortunately both HaM are proven as unreliable narrators of their own story.
And there are also questions of how this may have been handled behind the scenes - What did the RF know? Did the FBI cover anything up? Why did Thomas Jnr’s original report earlier this year not go anywhere at first?
I do think this is why they returned to the UK.

She has stated in her statement today that she reported it to her protection officers, and that has been reported in print. The rest is a reasonable inference from that starting point. Whether individual members of the Royal Family knew is a moot point. However, I would have expected the matter to have reached the attention of the relevant Private Offices, particularly if the police were involved. Given how difficult Meghan was reportedly finding life within the institution, it seems unlikely that something of this nature would simply have been ignored.Consider the heavy weight lifted !

A reminder of the brickbats that were hurled at Meghan in the not-so-distant past, and an opportunity to reflect on the news we now know. How cruel, and how presumptuous, some were to judge her without understanding what she might have been going through.

They came back hoping to get full RF protection? Then palace letter came out stating they were akin to private citizens

Blimey! You're being a bit judgemental! Are you above all of this?.😂😂😂

And today they are silent or not so silent and finding other ways to keep having a pop at her

We had what Meghan said herself. So you're right, what she says isn't always factual, that's true.

However, I would have expected the matter to have reached the attention of the relevant Private Offices, particularly if the police were involved. Given how difficult Meghan was reportedly finding life within the institution, it seems unlikely that something of this nature would simply have been ignored.

There are at least three assumptions in that paragraph. Four now I come to re-read it.

Consider the heavy weight lifted !

Don't tell me what to consider, thanks. And no need for the exclamation mark, full stop is fine.

Your fedupedness is selective and I won’t be sitting here thinking twice about posting incase you have me in your sights on any particular day.

As for policing what posters discuss - well a trawl through even half a dozen previous threads would show that I’m not alone in that.

Not that I never complained about your Gifs - unlike others who police the threads when I’m off duty. 😛

No I'm here wasting time let everybody else when I could certainly be doing better things than trying to defend H&M from unfair criticism, - because ... underdog. Please don't tell me where the door is I know !

This really stinks to high heaven. And what about protecting the children?ALL children, not just her own.

So people aren't allowed to comment, because.... some people are not allowed to be criticised?
Why is that?

Yeh, it must have been very hard maintaining for 8 years that she cut him off because of his collusion with the tabloids and not because he was an alleged pedophile.
Poor Megs

Off you trot, then.

Underdogs? Privileged titled millionaires? Ok....

You and me both BasiliskStare

I've been on the thread created for this, vainly trying to point out there's so much we can't know yet, but predictably the few remaining fans are adamant that it all proves this and that

Yet again this is the sort of allegation people can be hesitant about querying, but after all the lies which have been told - and often at very convenient times - you'd think folk would have learned

Remember! She is the Duchess of Sussex! Cutseys and jam purchasing only.
No challenge to what she does or says 👑

So in all the years of campaigning for online safety, they have in fact been keeping quiet about child sex abuse by a member of their own family because 'it's someone else's responsibility to deal with it'... that's not a good look is it?! Protecting their own lives/children and turning a blind eye to the potential damage being caused to other families? Talk about saying one thing while doing another...

I wonder why she didn't. I also wonder what would have happened if she had. I suspect it would have gained little traction next to the Royal "revelations" but at least looking back the narrative would be consistent.