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Ham pr disasters 54! ….the relentless reconciliation edition…

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jeffgoldblum · 22/10/2026 15:02

Apologies for my tardiness! , the last thread finished unexpectedly!!! 😱

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twosmallaxolotls · 23/10/2026 11:23

Kingsandqueenz · 23/10/2026 11:22

Do you feel the way Meghan & Harry attack the royal family in the press is abusive also? And getting paid so much for it.

Also do you not think this is yet another lie exposed by H&M. Meghan said she cut off her dad for selling stories & Harry says he blames himself for Meghan having no relationship with her dad...

The inaccuracies & inconsistencies of H&M are actually mind-blowing

They've got away with it for so long, they don't worry about contradictions and inconsistencies.

jeffgoldblum · 23/10/2026 11:23

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · 23/10/2026 11:13

Yes you have misunderstood me. And not for the first time. Perhaps you shouldn’t be so quick off the mark as it’s becoming tiresome.

Well then perhaps you can qualify exactly what you meant by hoping no more threads would be started?
and frankly I’m fed up with you trying to police what posters can discuss!
it isn’t the first or even second time!!

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twosmallaxolotls · 23/10/2026 11:23

jeffgoldblum · 23/10/2026 11:23

Well then perhaps you can qualify exactly what you meant by hoping no more threads would be started?
and frankly I’m fed up with you trying to police what posters can discuss!
it isn’t the first or even second time!!

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Kingsandqueenz · 23/10/2026 11:25

AtIusvue · 23/10/2026 11:21

Let’s get this timeline clear.

In 2018, Meg and Harry find out about allegations about her father that are linked to CSA.

In that time, what Harry and Meg found most upsetting and decided to speak out on, because ‘the only wrong you can do is say nothing at all’- direct quote.

  • William and Kate overdressing for a dinner
  • William and Kate feeling uncomfortable with her hugging
  • Kate making a face when Meg asked to borrow her lipgloss
  • Flower girl dress drama - with someone making someone cry.
  • Not being congratulated on their Australian tour
  • unfounded claims that their kids would be denied titles
  • hearsay about the children’s skin colour

This is what upset them? This is what they HAD to speak out on. This is why they had to flee Britain?!

They knew about her father but were gunning for the RF over minor issues?

That’s a whole level of fucked up that no one seen coming.

Edited

And only four years ago Harry says he blames himself for Meghan having no relationship with her dad.
Hopefully the press will do their job properly & disect all the inaccuracies & lies H&M have told.

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:26

Kingsandqueenz · 23/10/2026 11:22

Do you feel the way Meghan & Harry attack the royal family in the press is abusive also? And getting paid so much for it.

Also do you not think this is yet another lie exposed by H&M. Meghan said she cut off her dad for selling stories & Harry says he blames himself for Meghan having no relationship with her dad...

The inaccuracies & inconsistencies of H&M are actually mind-blowing

I don't support the way they have attacked the family at all. This isn't fiction with goodies and baddies, people are more complex than that.

I can understanding why Meghan gave another reason for cutting her father off. You can't comment in an investigation of course but even without that, why on earth would she to go public with this? Particularly if it wasn't proven.

mysoddenbananabread · 23/10/2026 11:26

Time will tell on this. They can investigate downloads, images etc and find out possibly who made these. I say possibly as it depends who TM was living with at the time. There's a whole time line to unravel.

twosmallaxolotls · 23/10/2026 11:26

AtIusvue · 23/10/2026 11:24

The NF documentary . Four years after they found out about Markle Snr

https://pagesix.com/2022/12/08/prince-harry-blames-himself-for-meghans-relationship-with-her-dad/

Edited

So.... What's the truth? As usual, hard to find.

Mylovelygreendress · 23/10/2026 11:28

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:21

They were obviously a bit estranged by the time she met Harry. I don't think we need to look for reasons why the statement isn't true. It clearly is. It doesn't mean Megan suddenly becomes perfect, it doesn't excuse the choice to speak to Oprah and make awful accusations against the Royal family. But it does explain the distance from her father.

Is there evidence to suggest they were a bit estranged ? M spoke gushingly about her father on TIG and he was on the wedding guest list .

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 23/10/2026 11:29

mysoddenbananabread · 23/10/2026 11:26

Time will tell on this. They can investigate downloads, images etc and find out possibly who made these. I say possibly as it depends who TM was living with at the time. There's a whole time line to unravel.

One of my guilty pleasures is watching programmes about police forensics and it's amazing what they can do.

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:29

For everyone who is looking for inconsistency with her statement and everything they have ever said about her father. I'm not sure what your point is.

Are you saying that because they didn't tell the truth about why she cut off her father then we can't believe the statement?
Are you saying the accusations are false?

The statement is perusal the best she could say at this point, knowing that she has given a different narrative publically. That doesn't mean they she isn't being truthful now ant the letter from the police and the distancing from her father.

I don't agree with a lot of what the Sussexes have said and done but in this my sympathies are with them. This is an impossible situation to navigate in public knowing that you are divisive figures whose every word is analysed.

Starryfifty · 23/10/2026 11:29

I really think it's time HAM go and live somewhere outside UK and live a very quiet life with their children. Their lies and bullshit are really coming to light now. Yes, I feel for Meg but she is not going to come out of this well at all

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:31

Mylovelygreendress · 23/10/2026 11:28

Is there evidence to suggest they were a bit estranged ? M spoke gushingly about her father on TIG and he was on the wedding guest list .

The evidence is that she didn't introduce Her to him. I expect that may have been because he didn't fit into her new life, that's a bit sad and I don't agree with it. But the decision to maintain that distance after being told about him was right. I wonder if the no show at the wedding was engineered?

Starryfifty · 23/10/2026 11:31

I wonder will HAM use this latest bombshell to push RAVEC for security (runs and hides)

DancingFerret · 23/10/2026 11:31

Cynically, whatever the truth about her father, Markle has managed to use it as yet another headline grab.

I doubt she recognises that silence is golden.

Mylovelygreendress · 23/10/2026 11:32

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:29

For everyone who is looking for inconsistency with her statement and everything they have ever said about her father. I'm not sure what your point is.

Are you saying that because they didn't tell the truth about why she cut off her father then we can't believe the statement?
Are you saying the accusations are false?

The statement is perusal the best she could say at this point, knowing that she has given a different narrative publically. That doesn't mean they she isn't being truthful now ant the letter from the police and the distancing from her father.

I don't agree with a lot of what the Sussexes have said and done but in this my sympathies are with them. This is an impossible situation to navigate in public knowing that you are divisive figures whose every word is analysed.

I think part of the problem is that M has told so many lies over the years , it’s not surprising that some people are sceptical.
The Boy who Cried Wolf …..

SiegfriedSassoon · 23/10/2026 11:32

AtIusvue · 23/10/2026 11:21

Let’s get this timeline clear.

In 2018, Meg and Harry find out about allegations about her father that are linked to CSA.

In that time, what Harry and Meg found most upsetting and decided to speak out on, because ‘the only wrong you can do is say nothing at all’- direct quote.

  • William and Kate overdressing for a dinner
  • William and Kate feeling uncomfortable with her hugging
  • Kate making a face when Meg asked to borrow her lipgloss
  • Flower girl dress drama - with someone making someone cry.
  • Not being congratulated on their Australian tour
  • unfounded claims that their kids would be denied titles
  • hearsay about the children’s skin colour

This is what upset them? This is what they HAD to speak out on. This is why they had to flee Britain?!

They knew about her father but were gunning for the RF over minor issues?

That’s a whole level of fucked up that no one seen coming.

Edited

I think this will cast HaM in a far worse light than ever. Attacking the RF for profit over the most petty grudges. While all the time they were keeping quiet about such a horrifying matter and lying outrageously about why they don't don't see TM. Blaming it on the stress of the wedding and the media interest around it.

How can they have have accepted awards and lectured about child wellbeing when they were colluding in the knowledge that a paedophile was still free to abuse more children?

Badvocthebad · 23/10/2026 11:33

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · 23/10/2026 11:18

There will be people who use these horrific allegations to suit their narrative regarding Harry and Meghan. It shouldn’t be allowed which is why people need to keep the timeline fresh in their mind ready to counteract the whitewashing that’s going to go on. The children deserve not to be victims for a second time.

The only narrative for HaM is theirs.
Sadly, none of it bears any level of scrutiny.

AlexandraCarrington · 23/10/2026 11:33

I think her dad let her down badly with the wedding. It was really embarrassing, and Charles was very kind to her (and Doria). I also think that TM was not ready for it all (I mean, his daughter was marrying Prince Harry!). The marriage just happened too quickly…

But M did nothing to help (leaving aside current revelations). Wouldn't you introduce a new partner to your family when you thought you were getting serious? H could have got know Mr M in 2017, then at the time of the engagement he could have been invited to Sandringham to meet the RF in a low key way out of the public eye....

He can't have been completely uncouth. He had a profession, one brother was in the diplomatic service, the other was a priest, I think? He valued education, he helped out with drama productions at M's school.

twosmallaxolotls · 23/10/2026 11:34

Mylovelygreendress · 23/10/2026 11:28

Is there evidence to suggest they were a bit estranged ? M spoke gushingly about her father on TIG and he was on the wedding guest list .

The tributes on The Tig were fullsome.

AtIusvue · 23/10/2026 11:34

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:29

For everyone who is looking for inconsistency with her statement and everything they have ever said about her father. I'm not sure what your point is.

Are you saying that because they didn't tell the truth about why she cut off her father then we can't believe the statement?
Are you saying the accusations are false?

The statement is perusal the best she could say at this point, knowing that she has given a different narrative publically. That doesn't mean they she isn't being truthful now ant the letter from the police and the distancing from her father.

I don't agree with a lot of what the Sussexes have said and done but in this my sympathies are with them. This is an impossible situation to navigate in public knowing that you are divisive figures whose every word is analysed.

I’m saying, why would you be so upset about perceived slights by Harry’s family when you held such horrific information on your own father?

That were compelled to speak out, to speak truth to power, that ‘the only bad thing you can say is nothing at all’ - about infractions of the RF ….but weren't seething with anger and this decided to speak out about CSA and her father.

Why would they get so upset about Kate and William overdressing for a dinner, that they have to make a point of it in his book and in their docu….when the were sitting on the most horrific allegations about her father!!!

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:34

Mylovelygreendress · 23/10/2026 11:32

I think part of the problem is that M has told so many lies over the years , it’s not surprising that some people are sceptical.
The Boy who Cried Wolf …..

That's a good point. Whilst I can't see her lying about this because the truth is going to come out in an investigation, she has made things harder for herself.

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:35

AtIusvue · 23/10/2026 11:34

I’m saying, why would you be so upset about perceived slights by Harry’s family when you held such horrific information on your own father?

That were compelled to speak out, to speak truth to power, that ‘the only bad thing you can say is nothing at all’ - about infractions of the RF ….but weren't seething with anger and this decided to speak out about CSA and her father.

Why would they get so upset about Kate and William overdressing for a dinner, that they have to make a point of it in his book and in their docu….when the were sitting on the most horrific allegations about her father!!!

Because they are humans and inconsistent. Also a large part of the grudges come from Harry who is quite self involved enough to feel himself justified regardless of the circumstances. There is no way he would think the stuff about her father made not getting an extra sausage fair.

SiegfriedSassoon · 23/10/2026 11:36

twosmallaxolotls · 23/10/2026 11:34

The tributes on The Tig were fullsome.

I think he was part of her image back then. The dad who worked 'in the industry,' she was proud of it and probably thought it would endear her to the nepo baby crowd she was trying to break into.

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/10/2026 11:37

DancingFerret · 23/10/2026 11:31

Cynically, whatever the truth about her father, Markle has managed to use it as yet another headline grab.

I doubt she recognises that silence is golden.

She had to release a statement otherwise everything they do next will become the press asking about it

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