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Ham pr disasters 50! …will Thursday be the start of something big ? …or just another damp squib!

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jeffgoldblum · 13/10/2026 23:36

It’s all happening! 3 charity visits coming up!

Ham pr disasters 50! …will Thursday be the start of something big ? …or just another damp squib!
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TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 20:15

MonetsLilac · Today 20:10

Well, there's a lot more to be said! In what way did she sound different? Accent, intonation, confidence, rhotacism, what?

Accent

MonetsLilac · Today 20:16

TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 20:15

Accent

But..
you're not going to elaborate?.

HoldMyWine · Today 20:16

Scathing article in the Nottingham Post
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/news-opinion/worlds-most-famous-private-citizens-11200649

TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 20:22

MonetsLilac · Today 20:16

But..
you're not going to elaborate?.

My God.

I listened to her speak, she didn't sound as she has before, her accent sounded different. What more is there to say??

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 20:23

HoldMyWine · Today 20:16

Well, she doesn't mince her words, does she?

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · Today 20:26

BemusedAmerican · Yesterday 00:06

No, Catherine will become regent. Anne and Edward are now Councilors of State and can fill in, too. That is why they were added
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Edw8and1Geo6/1/16

That is absolutely not what it says. The next adult in line to the throne becomes regent. The window spouse of the PoW (or King) is never in contention for the role. If at some point quite plainly.

The Regent. (1)
If a Regency becomes necessary under this Act, the Regent shall be that person who, excluding any persons disqualified under this section, is next in the line of succession to the Crown.

MonetsLilac · Today 20:27

TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 20:22

My God.

I listened to her speak, she didn't sound as she has before, her accent sounded different. What more is there to say??

Oh don't bother. Why make a claim if you're not going to elaborate and tell people what you mean?

BasiliskStare · Today 20:28

@HoldMyWine Thank you for that. The last photo says it all to me.
I'm not sure that visit will have landed as well as they wished to portray / like to think. We'll see in the fulness of time.

TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 20:28

MonetsLilac · Today 20:27

Oh don't bother. Why make a claim if you're not going to elaborate and tell people what you mean?

What more do you want me to say?

I've heard her speak with an obvious American accent previously. Today, to me, she sounded like she had a difference accent.

AlwaysRightISwear · Today 20:31

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · Today 20:26

That is absolutely not what it says. The next adult in line to the throne becomes regent. The window spouse of the PoW (or King) is never in contention for the role. If at some point quite plainly.

The Regent. (1)
If a Regency becomes necessary under this Act, the Regent shall be that person who, excluding any persons disqualified under this section, is next in the line of succession to the Crown.

Easy enough for parliament to change though.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 20:32

TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 20:28

What more do you want me to say?

I've heard her speak with an obvious American accent previously. Today, to me, she sounded like she had a difference accent.

Scottish ? Irish ? Welsh ? English ? French …..

ShamedBySiri · Today 20:32

IdaGlossop · Today 19:28

Schools tend not to ask permission for local, walking-only, zero-cost outings. I fail to see why a walk in the Autumn sunshine is a problem.

If the children need an autumn walk in the sunshine take them to the park, collect some conkers, have a nature lesson, play some games.
Don't frogmarch them to stand around waiting for some non important private citizens to waltz past.

I'd be very annoyed if my children were taken out of class for this.

When the Queen Mother came to my school to open the new Sixth Form building only the Sixth Form were allowed out of lessons to line the paths and cheer or wave or whatever they did, which I don't know as I was kept nose to the grindstone in my class.

MonetsLilac · Today 20:33

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · Today 20:26

That is absolutely not what it says. The next adult in line to the throne becomes regent. The window spouse of the PoW (or King) is never in contention for the role. If at some point quite plainly.

The Regent. (1)
If a Regency becomes necessary under this Act, the Regent shall be that person who, excluding any persons disqualified under this section, is next in the line of succession to the Crown.

No. When Prince Charles was small, the designated regent was Princess Margaret. Then parliament changed it to Prince Philip.
Parliament is Sovereign. They decide.

swedishrhapsody · Today 20:34

BasiliskStare · Today 20:28

@HoldMyWine Thank you for that. The last photo says it all to me.
I'm not sure that visit will have landed as well as they wished to portray / like to think. We'll see in the fulness of time.

I hope they had claquers….

No-one would know they were there else.

Ham pr disasters 50! …will Thursday be the start of something big ? …or just another damp squib!
TheSunIsAlwaysThere · Today 20:34

Mylovelygreendress · Today 20:32

Scottish ? Irish ? Welsh ? English ? French …..

go and listen on instagram. This is bonkers.

MonetsLilac · Today 20:37

Mylovelygreendress · Today 20:32

Scottish ? Irish ? Welsh ? English ? French …..

Oh don't bother. It's like pulling teeth.

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · Today 20:38

AlwaysRightISwear · Today 20:31

Easy enough for parliament to change though.

But they would not do so. It would remain a person of royal blood. They would not skip Harry. He is the first adult in the line of succession after George.

Who would they change it to?

After Harry comes Andrew. Are they going to have an Act of Parliament displacing Harry for Andrew or his descendants? No.

We’re now 16 places away from the throne.

It would obviously be Harry. No Act of Parliament is going to opt for a Regent 16 places down the line of succession.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 20:39

“Regarding the website, I think the entire site should be fully overhauled - a lot of it needs to be updated.
I suspect the Sussexes remain on it only because Harry is the King's son. The only other family members there are working royals.”

I do think @bluegreygreen that KC has to separate his paternal role from that of Head of State . The late Queen lost a lot of respect due to her shielding of AMW and KC needs to be mindful of this .

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · Today 20:41

MonetsLilac · Today 20:33

No. When Prince Charles was small, the designated regent was Princess Margaret. Then parliament changed it to Prince Philip.
Parliament is Sovereign. They decide.

That was specifically for Prince Philip. The Act has now reverted to the first adult in the line of succession.

Lifestooshort71 · Today 20:41

MonetsLilac · Today 20:27

Oh don't bother. Why make a claim if you're not going to elaborate and tell people what you mean?

Perhaps let it drop. You're pushing a bit hard over something that was an idle comment.

Ratherbeadolphin · Today 20:41

HoldMyWine · Today 20:16

Wow, that is one scathing article indeed. For those wondering about the security, the barriers and who paid for it here is a quote:

"There will be a cost to the Nottingham taxpayer, how much exactly we don’t know. City Council Community Protection Officers were diverted from other duties to provide crowd reassurance in St Ann’s outside the Community Recording Studio.
Council-owned barriers were placed outside to keep the crowd in check. A single Nottinghamshire Police car blocked the road.
In Sneinton, while the couple visited Epic Partners, an unmarked police car blocked the road. For balance, I should tell you that a plastic chair with a sign saying “no one past this point please” was also used (ineffectively) for crowd control in Sneinton." "None of this is free. So why are we paying for the activities of what Buckingham Palace itself calls ‘private citizens’?"

The article repeatedly refers to the events as a 'circus'.

"One particular encounter summed everything up for me today. In Hyson Green, well-wishers had taken time out of their day to wait for a glimpse of the couple on Gregory Boulevard outside the Himmah Hub community kitchen.
Yet, after the cooking session inside, the Duke and Duchess were quietly escorted out of a rear exit for their next stop. They left a street of waiting fans disappointed - some still clutching flowers they hoped to give them.
For all the talk of community support, when the circus packs up and moves on, the people who actually live here are left standing on the pavement, holding flowers, waiting for a reality that has already driven away."

The newspaper has had a lot of negative comment about the visit.

"The reaction to their visit in our newsdesk email has been overwhelming. And not in a positive way. We have been reminded at all hours today by people all over the world that the couple are private individuals. One even pointed out: “You may have private citizens lurking around looking for attention so beware.”

MonetsLilac · Today 20:42

orthrywreeinvicedifthe · Today 20:38

But they would not do so. It would remain a person of royal blood. They would not skip Harry. He is the first adult in the line of succession after George.

Who would they change it to?

After Harry comes Andrew. Are they going to have an Act of Parliament displacing Harry for Andrew or his descendants? No.

We’re now 16 places away from the throne.

It would obviously be Harry. No Act of Parliament is going to opt for a Regent 16 places down the line of succession.

They would skip Harry.
They would go for someone else, probably Catherine, plus Anne and Edward.
There is no way on God's green earth that an inadequate, disloyal, lying, petulant fool with a documented drug habit would get within throwing distance of such a critical role.

Pedallleur · Today 20:43

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 20:23

Well, she doesn't mince her words, does she?

She doesn't but if william and Kate or just Kate visit I hope the same diligence is applied to her outfit/jewellery etc.

Wedgewood · Today 20:44

IcedPurple · Today 19:18

What I would say is , being a member of the WRF includes the balcony , the Cenotaph , Trooping of the Colour , Govt approved tours , inter alia. I think that was their idea of HIHO.
Which to paraphrase Henry Reed "In their case they have not got"

I would have thought visits to small charities in an unglamorous Midlands town is precisely the sort of royal event they did not want to do! Yet, here we are. And unlike 7 years ago, they won't have had the free housing, security, staff and royal prestige. And there is no chance of them doing any of the 'glamorous' royal events that you mention.

It's really hard to see what the plan is here. Of course, it's the Sussexes we're talking about, so there is no plan. But they won't have made any money from today and while they may have got a brief thrill out of all the attention, how does it improve their situation? They're still failures.

I imagine their current plan is to be spoilers. To court the (very willing) press away from actual royal events. To have their faces on the front pages. To plant stories that seek undermine and niggle away at Catherine and William. To do their very spiteful best to set up a rival court because, even if their events are shit, they will still get the headlines because their lives are a soap opera and the press know their drama will engender clicks and commentary. I don't think they are strategic but rather they are sociopathic, and this is their idea of revenge for being second best in every aspect of their existence.

CathyorClaire · Today 20:44

BasiliskStare · Today 15:25

Just quickly - they were banned at my school because (and it was ) girls kept ending up with bruised knuckles and hands. 9 day wonder. 😂

Banned at my school too although I always thought they got generally banned due to ill judged crash landings on wrists resulting in breaks. Might be apocryphal though.

I do remember metal clickers being banned in school due to driving the head crazy especially when he couldn't identify the source of the vetoed tinny irritation 😁

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