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Ham pr disasters 49! ….Hi , Ho, …Hi , Ho….it’s not going to work you know!

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jeffgoldblum · 11/10/2026 15:06

What next? …upcoming “engagements” ….humanitarian projects….will they ? Won’t they? 🤷‍♀️
welcome everyone 👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

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smilesy · Yesterday 19:29

BigWillyLittleTodger · Yesterday 19:24

I would imagine so, he has been a public servant for most of his life, this is going to cost the tax payer a fortune.

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Having just looked at what Mahmoud has said, though, it isn’t the bells and whistles three car convoy security that the Sussexes are after that will be supplied. It’s more like a personal liaison officer and help with wider security. I assume RAVEC will still look at actual threat levels, as opposed to imaginary ones

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 19:29

BigWillyLittleTodger · Yesterday 19:10

I am persisting in my view that Ravec will agree security or not based on what the risk review undercovers. Looking at the situation in the Middle East, their farcical behaviour since August, their new status as private citizens, the Putin-Trump axis, and the rise of the right, I find it hard to believe they are in danger when there is so much else going on. They have no power, little money, the reign of pa will be short, and William has cut them off.

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 19:29

Tigger1895 · Yesterday 19:20

A previous thread asked what topic we’d like banned from this site. This would be my choice. It tiresome and it shows people have very boring lives.

You are aware you can hide whole topics?
why you thought this was an interesting or appropriate comment to post is a mystery, nobody here cares about your opinion.🤷‍♀️

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Purplebunnie · Yesterday 19:29

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Yesterday 15:11

Reactive Depression can present like that. It’s very real.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/feeling-down-lately-it-might-be-situational-depression

I get it that because Harry is who he is it can be very difficult to believe what he says but to dismiss a persons having an episode of poor mental health because we perhaps don’t like them doesn’t say much about us.

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My GP told me I had reactionary depression after my father died when I went to see him with some really odd things going on in my head. It was very real and I never, ever want to go back there again. Anyone who suffers this has my absolute sympathy. If it's of any significance I was 17 at the time

TheOvertGardener · Yesterday 19:31

Tigger1895 · Yesterday 19:20

A previous thread asked what topic we’d like banned from this site. This would be my choice. It tiresome and it shows people have very boring lives.

Welcome! I saw that thread and enjoyed it, too. Was a little surprised more posters didn’t choose RFF for censorship.

I wish my life was boring. Boring sounds amazing right now. As it is, I often need a distraction lately and enjoy the chat here.

SqueakyDinosaur · Yesterday 19:35

BigWillyLittleTodger · Yesterday 18:53

The only one who ever went slightly off piste was Jane Pauley, if looks could kill……

Anderson Cooper, too.

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TheAutumnCrow · Yesterday 19:38

BigWillyLittleTodger · Yesterday 18:40

I agree Jeff, he has told so many lies and cried wolf so often it’s no wonder people don’t believe him, me being one of them.

This is always going to be HaM’s problem now. They are known, proven liars.

That remains the case no matter how many personal stories posters disclose about their own depression, and IMO I think that our posters here should be really careful about what they say on these boards on MN that is of a very private and sensitive nature. Not everyone online is as nice as you are. Flowers

Lunde · Yesterday 19:40

Gonners · Yesterday 19:08

Andrew allegedly used the proceeds of Sunninghill (£15 million) to renovate Royal Lodge, which somehow needs another £1.8 million spent on it now. The King is paying. Goodness, what a messy family that branch of the Mountbatten Windsors must be.

I presume that Fergie got some of the proceeds from South York as it was pretty much their only marital asset. I expect there were some joint debts to pay as well.

It was said he paid around £7.5 million for the Royal Lodge lease - but the terms were that he had to keep up with maintenance and repairs. But instead he and Fergie just continued to live wildly beyond their means.

BigWillyLittleTodger · Yesterday 19:40

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 19:29

I am persisting in my view that Ravec will agree security or not based on what the risk review undercovers. Looking at the situation in the Middle East, their farcical behaviour since August, their new status as private citizens, the Putin-Trump axis, and the rise of the right, I find it hard to believe they are in danger when there is so much else going on. They have no power, little money, the reign of pa will be short, and William has cut them off.

It could be a double edged sword, Harry might well think now his security is “nailed on” but he could be at the bottom of a very long list of former and current public figures who may be entitled to security after this review.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 19:41

There seems to be this rather odd narrative - perpetuated to a large extent by Harry himself, that Harry is the only one to have served in the military and the only one to serve in a warzone.

George VI as a prince was at the battle of Jutland and Prince Philip served in the navy during WW2 and fought at the battle of Cape Matapan.

myturntobePiggyfetchtheconch · Yesterday 19:44

‘Serving’ is a broad umbrella.

Was he present in a war zone?

I’ll have to give him the latter.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 19:45

Tigger1895 · Yesterday 19:20

A previous thread asked what topic we’d like banned from this site. This would be my choice. It tiresome and it shows people have very boring lives.

It's not "a previous thread". It's running at the moment.
So you're on that thread and have come over here to tell people they're boring?
Goodness. What an exciting life you must lead.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 19:46

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 19:41

There seems to be this rather odd narrative - perpetuated to a large extent by Harry himself, that Harry is the only one to have served in the military and the only one to serve in a warzone.

George VI as a prince was at the battle of Jutland and Prince Philip served in the navy during WW2 and fought at the battle of Cape Matapan.

Philip was mentioned in dispatches.

AlexandraCarrington · Yesterday 19:46

Prince Philip served in the navy during WW2 and fought at the battle of Cape Matapan.

And was mentioned in dispatches, I believe, for the part he played.

TheOvertGardener · Yesterday 19:47

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 19:45

It's not "a previous thread". It's running at the moment.
So you're on that thread and have come over here to tell people they're boring?
Goodness. What an exciting life you must lead.

Maybe that thread got boring?

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 19:47

I am persisting in my view that Ravec will agree security or not based on what the risk review undercovers.

My opinion also, @IdaGlossop.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 19:48

A previous thread asked what topic we’d like banned from this site. This would be my choice. It tiresome and it shows people have very boring lives.

I'm so sorry you're being forced to read it. Blink twice if you need help to get free.

myturntobePiggyfetchtheconch · Yesterday 19:49

Someone once wrote

”Maybe you should just ignore them”

Useful I should imagine for all manner of things.

LifeIsTooShort247 · Yesterday 19:53

Lunde · Yesterday 18:58

There seems to be this rather odd narrative - perpetuated to a large extent by Harry himself, that Harry is the only one to have served in the military and the only one to serve in a warzone.

Mostly Harry had a pretty undistinguished Army career - his low marks on the entry tests (4/10) meant he was pretty much slow-tracked and not considered a good candidate for leadership. He did do 2 short tours of Afghanistan (the first was 10 weeks and the second was 20 weeks). But it took him a sedate 2 years to get his promotion to Lieutenant, and a further 3 years to make Captain (total 5 years) and he never got promoted further.

Arguably the most heroic royal was AMW who served in the royal navy for 22 years and achieving the rank of Commander. He flew helicopters during the Falklands war - acting as a decoy to lure Exocet missiles away from ships and towards his helicopter and carrying out rescues of casualties from ships while under fire.

William served for 7 years in all three branches of the military. He achieved the rank of lieutenant in a year, and Captain 2 years later (total 3 years). He transferred to the RAF and flew in dangerous conditions as an RAF search and rescue pilot. He also flew a secret mission to Afghanistan to recover and repatriate the body of a fallen soldier. He also served a secondment to the Navy on HMS Iron Duke, where he was part of a helicopter crew that chased down drug runners in speedboats and seized 900kg of cocaine.

Charles also served in the navy for 5 years. He qualified as a helicopter pilot and for almost a year commanded a minesweeper the HMS Bronington.

Oh, look, more textbook academic snobbery. Judging a front-line soldier’s service by how well they pass paper exams or how fast they climb a corporate ladder is peak elitism. Not everyone is built for tests, but passing a written exam doesn’t give you grit or courage in an active war zone.

As I said not everyone is an academic person which also means they aren't going to be good at passing tests, I knew plenty of people in my school who were intelligent but rubbish at passing exams.

Furthermore, this thread is literally about Harry, so why on earth would I be talking about anyone else? No one said he was the only person in history to ever serve in the military. Bringing up a massive list of other royals just to say 'but look how much faster they got promoted' is a total derailment. It’s just a desperate attempt to shift the goalposts because you can't handle a simple discussion about his service without turning it into a weird, competitive ranking exercise

notimagain · Yesterday 19:53

BigWillyLittleTodger · Yesterday 19:40

It could be a double edged sword, Harry might well think now his security is “nailed on” but he could be at the bottom of a very long list of former and current public figures who may be entitled to security after this review.

Agree with this.

I gather there's been quite a lot of grumbling for a while from some current and some recent MPs about the level of protection they get....recent events have shown some of them.might have a valid point and that is what this review is mainly about.

In the real world there's a limit to what can be provided, and if resources get soaked up protecting those at Westminster then Princes of England with no official role might find there's not much left for them.

myturntobePiggyfetchtheconch · Yesterday 19:55

Oh look though.

Serving is not the same as just being present.

IYKYK.

PleasantGreenPorcupine · Yesterday 19:56

TheOvertGardener · Yesterday 19:47

Maybe that thread got boring?

It's certainly not as interesting and enlightening as this one!

smilesy · Yesterday 19:58

LifeIsTooShort247 · Yesterday 19:53

Oh, look, more textbook academic snobbery. Judging a front-line soldier’s service by how well they pass paper exams or how fast they climb a corporate ladder is peak elitism. Not everyone is built for tests, but passing a written exam doesn’t give you grit or courage in an active war zone.

As I said not everyone is an academic person which also means they aren't going to be good at passing tests, I knew plenty of people in my school who were intelligent but rubbish at passing exams.

Furthermore, this thread is literally about Harry, so why on earth would I be talking about anyone else? No one said he was the only person in history to ever serve in the military. Bringing up a massive list of other royals just to say 'but look how much faster they got promoted' is a total derailment. It’s just a desperate attempt to shift the goalposts because you can't handle a simple discussion about his service without turning it into a weird, competitive ranking exercise

Err no. Harry went through Sandhurst. The officer’s training college in case you are not aware. Officers are expected to move up the ranks within a given time frame and have to pass exams to do so beyond the rank of Captain. So not academic snobbery, but the actual situation for an officer like Harry

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 20:02

smilesy · Yesterday 19:58

Err no. Harry went through Sandhurst. The officer’s training college in case you are not aware. Officers are expected to move up the ranks within a given time frame and have to pass exams to do so beyond the rank of Captain. So not academic snobbery, but the actual situation for an officer like Harry

And has been the case ever since promotion by purchase was abolished. Don't pass the exams, don't progress.

Incidentally, I didn't realise we had to keep rigidly to the subject of the thread, have I missed the appointment of a thread monitor?

Chaostheory12 · Yesterday 20:05

I wonder if Harry's lack of promotion had a lot to do with the fact he was a royal with security issues. Someone commanding other men at a high level in a field of war can't have a security detail trailing around, and I imagine it causes a lot of resentment among other offficers. 'He's only there because of who his dad is '. I don't know how it worked with Andrew but he was deeply unpopular and I don't believe he was ever putting his life on the line really.

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