Ham pr disasters thread 47! …it’s all so quiet…it’s all so still ….

[jeffgoldblum]

Still interested! , still not bored ( well slightly!) 😁

She should have gone to a window seat in Greggs.

It’s the establishment. Those men in grey suits are against you.

We still don’t know the reason for their sudden ‘moonlit flit’ across the Atlantic but seeing as Meghan hated living here it’s certainly not going to be something along the lines of ‘fancied a change’ is it.
Since they came back it feels that, without exception, everything they do just works against them.
Nobody seems to hve any admiration or real interest in anything they say or do.
They have worn out the goodwill and people seem to be alternately bored or disgusted with them.
Only the vapid nasty intellectually challenged SS side with them.

What a shallow cold place to be.
Zero family -apart from Doria - on both sides.
And everyone knows this.
Everyone who has a shred of interest in anything royal adjacent (couldn’t resist!) knows that nobody on Harrys side talks to them. As much as they would like to think otherwise I’m pretty sure The King has no intention of letting them back into his life -he realises the Monarchy is more important than a wayward son.

Its hard to flog a lifestyle brand when you dont have a lifestyle that anybody wants.
I do feel sorry for the kids but I feel sorry for lots of kids.
I hve no doubt that at some point their titles will be removed. It’s utterly ridiculous to have ‘Prince & Princess’ when they will never have a role in the Royal Family -or even a place in the MW family. The sooner the better IMHO.

If I was a betting woman, I would put a weeks wage on HAM forefront of the SS

But they'd "have to be able to say we didn't have anything to do with it", @Starryfifty

Frankly nothing would surprise me any more, but whether or not they're directly involved the idea of shutting down the Squad's venom seems a non-starter to me. They have enough critics already, and I can't imagine such people turning on them would be pleasant

MM sent a coded thank you for the squad support on her most recent IG (plausible deniability of course - but she knows well how that term could be ‘mid-read) - she sent another her chocolates, they invited a couple of SS on their Nigeria and Columbia trips and PH personally sent a private invite to one to the IG Thanksgiving service in St Paul’s in 2025 - she went on to make a YouTube video about it.

This is a fascinating read. Worth of a NF documentary - needs some forensic tech sleuths on it - would be as entertaining as ‘Don’t fuck with Cats’ …

This is exactly it. She is trying to sell a brand & create a wholesome family image when the reality is she doesn't speak to anyone on either side of her family besides her mother & is also estranged from all her in laws.

It's hilarious watching her trying to be the wholesome "mom" when her actual reality with her family & in-laws couldn't be less wholesome.

The British public really value family, had she invited all her family to the wedding it would have shown her as real, inclusive & a family woman at heart. The fact that she only had Doria there really opened a can of worms.

Its hard to flog a lifestyle brand when you dont have a lifestyle that anybody wants.
How true.

I do think these little "spots" around town are easing her back into (what they perceive) as public life. Testing the water before her next official outing

The rumour on X is their pal ( can’t remember his name now , the one who’s mansion they stayed in) was some sort of guarantor for their mortgage, they haven’t been paying so it’s fallen to him. He is putting the house in the market… would explain the sudden moonlight flit.

To what purpose, though? She’s hardly going to be booed by other diners at Claridges.

So they’ve literally lost everything. Wow. That took some doing.

Testing the waters maybe? See what reception she gets online? Which isn't favourable 😆

I’m not convinced Doria is on the scene still, last time she was seen in public I believe was at an event for some A list Hollywood sleb (maybe a Kardashian?) - without MM - I have this little thought that Doria crossed a line accepting, attending and getting press coverage without MM - and the narc rage escalated and shes been cut out….? I know she was in a WLM episode but that was filmed in 2022/3 not broadcast until 2025. There was a shady figure could be Doria (plausible deniability - could have been deliberate body double) at the pumpkin patch photoshoot. No celebration or acknowledgment of her for her 70th birthday or any Mothers Days in recent years.

I wonder if Doria didn’t agree with MM treatment of Thomas at the time of his leg amputation? I understood they had a good relationship - MM said they all had Thanksgiving together in 2016. As someone who is a social worker and hopefully a compassionate bone in her body as well as setting up a company called ‘Loving Kindness Eldery Care’ - her family values might well be at odds with that of her DD. I wonder if Doria went to visit TM when he was in hospital in LA?

Tyler Perry has his own problems at the moment. He is fighting a sexual abuse lawsuit from several actors who have worked on his productions.

In September it was announced that he was selling many of his US properties to live in Puerto Rico .... could this be the reason that HAM had to move quickly if the mortgage thing is true?

HAM have been silent about supporting him - as ever

The Markle family dynamics are extremely interesting, how can someone cut out both sides of the family so callous?
There must be soo much more going on below the surface

But she hasn’t had an official outing in the UK since QE2 funeral.

The narrative has been consistently that she would never return to Salty Island and it’s too dangerous for her (they even said London was too dangerous in July!!)

She bailed on her planned re-launch accompanying PH in July on his public engagements at the last moment - ostensibly because she didn’t want to get covered with the shit storm from the ANL announcement.

Shes set up 3 apparently private time pap shots to date in pubs in the Cotswolds - and now shes slinked down to London to a high profile spot for another apparently private time pap shots.

She has a long way to go if she is using these to test the water for the green light for a public event - the comments are unanimously negative.

Tyler Perry appears to be ghosted. Shame for Lil as he's her godfather. Another person kids have no contact with. Probably just as well considering allegations against him. Naturally, HAM have not supported him

Quite possibly. The house was bought cheap but its value has rocketed to nearly $30m in that time and maybe H&M couldn’t afford to buy him out with that price hike. Might also explain why no renovations were done.

I don't really expect them - or anyone - to make a public statement saying "we support Tyler during this trying time" or something to that effect.

I'm sure their friendship with him is fine and well. I know Megs is an attention seeker, but I suspect, as with everyone in the public eye, they do have a private life that they keep private.

I very much doubt there is any real 'friendship'. What do they have in common? How much time have they spent together?

Rumour was he distanced himself when they refused to pay him back

If the price of the house has rockted to nearly $30m since they moved in, surely that only proves that they are a financial draw? I'm not sure it was cheap to start with! The property that Perry owns that they did stay in temporarily has also shot up in price, no doubt because they stayed there. He is selling that, but Harry and Meghan's house has not been put on the market.

I doubt Perry owns that house. Why would they need to rent from him? I thought it was fairly established that they are the owners.

Well, whatever level of friendship they have with him, which, as you suggest, is probably superficial. So why would we need to hear public statements of support from them? Which I doubt he would want anyway.

My point was that - as with all people in the public eye - they have a whole private life that we know nothing about. Just because they didn't say anything in public about someone, doesn't mean anything.

Yes, I think home ownership documents are public record in California and it's been shown that they do own the house.

As for the theoretical value of the home, any property is only 'worth' what an actual person is actually prepared to pay for it.