Ham pr disasters thread 47! …it’s all so quiet…it’s all so still ….

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Still interested! , still not bored ( well slightly!) 😁

I'd say the Queen also understood the optics & knew how utterly bizarre it would look to have none of Meghan's family there & also the incredible fact that Harry has never met his father in law..
The British public put a huge value on family & feel protective towards William & Harry. William is well looked after by the Middletons & the Windsors but Harry literally has her & his kids...

Chelsy & Cressida totally upgraded the old model, their husbands lucked out too! Beautiful, happy looking couples!

I'm surprised that not one person from the California school have mentioned that A&L went to that school even from different classes.
And no one from either British school have said they have seen them around.
Do the children have play dates with friends.
What about birthday parties do A&L attend.
What a lonely life for those little ones.

I think Meghan has an absolute need to control all narratives and be the centre of attention. Doria was presumably instructed not to chat.

However we all remember Meghan's death stare when Doria dared to join in the conversation at the Grenfell Cookbook launch. 😳

I don't really buy it either Starry, considering CD's family own a massive wildlife reserve in Zimbabwe & nothing really came of his connections there while they were together, also wasn't Harry photographed after killing a big game Water Buffalo in Argentina?

Also @Kingsandqueenz yes he did co-set up that charity, Sentabale but wasn't it reported he hadn't visited in over 6 years? So all in I take his great love of Africa with a massive pinch of salt

Meanwhile .. … wonder how HAM feel about their friends Elton and David with KC ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6398n8x13zyo

Oh wow!! No kidding! I wouldn't show either of them out the door, that's for sure!!

I'm always amused about H being referred to as a 'fox' by M. Calling someone a 'fox' or 'foxy' was a huge compliment in my youth, in the '70s. But I haven't heard anyone use those terms in decades.

So some of you young 'uns tell me, has the term become fashionable again or is it just her?

PS Every time I see her refer to him that way I think of.......

And they have Norfolk (Norfolk again!) to fall back on at his family hotel The Harper

Meghan refers to a " squad of support " on her latest Insta . Unfortunate word to use or is it her slipping in a little swan again?

It’s kind of you to give her the benefit of doubt but I think it’s undeserved.

I wonder if they discussed the recent court case and who is paying what ? May have been a little awkward.

Unfortunately any high profile parents will probably exclude hamlets from anything because of their grubby parents. Might be different when the children are older. They can attend events alone, etc

Oh dear. Ah well. Harry now has Ellen Degenerate

Perhaps they do mention it, but just within their own personal circles, not online or to the media. I'm not sure why the kids wouldn't have friends and play dates and go to kids' parties. I think Archie was involved in some football club in California. Obviously, if the kids had made friends in Cali they were torn away from them. But they were young and can make new ones in the UK.

Even though their parents are irresponsible idiots who have deprived their children of an amazing and unique life, the kids will still have access to lots of wonderful things and meet lots of interesting people.

Plausible deniability as usual.

I agree the very wealthy & the upper class will have seen how Harry & Meghan sold stories about the royal family to the press & know they can't be trusted.
The very wealthy & upper class value discretion & privacy above everything else, so the gatekeepers to that circle will close ranks to keep anyone who doesn't share their values out.

I think that’s actually an ad for Holts. Much more prestigious than Reitmans.

Ha, I saw this. I suspect the King just keeps the relationship going because of Elton's previous connection to the King's Trust. Elton is the one who led Harry astray and encouraged him to go against his family's advice by introducing him to David Sherborne with the explicit aim of going after the press.

Very cool event, though, regardless of Elton and David Furnish. Yet another of the types of things Harry could have been involved with if he hadn't been such a twit.

I just think she’s a bully through and through, and is secretly thrilled by the vehemence and crazy loyalty of her ‘squad’. She can sit pretty and pretend she’s unaware while making speeches condemning bullies, knowing they’re behaving like avenging furies on her behalf (very much HER behalf- I wouldn’t like to be Harry if for any reason they turned on him!).

I remember reading somewhere, possibly in one of Tom Bower's books that in the lead up to the wedding Meghan followed her mum around like a shadow and wouldn't let her go anywhere without being there too. I think she was utterly terrified Doria would reveal something she shouldn't. Probably the same reason Thomas and the rest of her family weren't at the wedding- too many differing narratives to control.

It must be absolutely exhausting being MM!

I haven't kept up with the entire thread , but just to say I agree with this. I am still ( hope against hope) hopeful H&M were a coup de foudre . I do think M had a bit of fairy princely £ dust affecting her judgment. Now if they are happy then just lovely for them. If (hypothetically ) a woman had married a man for money and status , and let's say someone did , how much could you make a mess of the opportunities afforded to you . That said , that person might have much money in the bank & be grateful.

They've both indulged in this "we have to be able to say it wasn't us / we didn't know/ we didn't say anything" stuff over the years. I think they think they're being clever. But they're so bad at it, so basic and unintelligent and obvious that you end up laughing at them. There was literally no reason for a swan emoji on that instagram post, it had nothing to do with the post itself, and it was timed exactly at the time of the Swan Song publicity. A person would be forgiven that it was actual publicity for the book, except if it were it was particularly crap! The only conclusion is that she was saying to her audience that she loved the book or its messages and endorses them.

Better quality PR and PR strategy would do this in a totally hidden way (the BRF is exceptionally skilled at this, but they have lots of levers to pull and many outlets at their disposal).

There would be no controlling Samantha or Thomas Junior! I do think the Markles have plenty to say & Netflix missed a big trick by not giving them a show.
100% she wanted no family there as she was petrified about what might come to light!

Could someone please archive the DM article by Annabel Fenwick Eliot ?
It’s quite good .

Totally agree, that “squad of support” in my opinion was her thanking and endorsing them, she thinks she is so clever but she is really quite thick. I would imagine she gets quite a thrill when she reads twitter or Celebitchy, let’s hope there is a report in the media on the soaring sales of the advent calendar that the clergy were promoting.