Ham pr disasters 46! …NATO nuisance and surprise appearances abound!

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the Discussion continues! , we are still interested and still not bored 😁

I’ve always thought that the reason M struggled with fashion is because she’s short. She’s also apple shaped, so hasn’t a good waist, despite having very thin legs, so the draping she aspires to with her expensive clothing doesn’t work. There must be experts who would be able to advise her, as I’m sure there’s some shapes she would look great in. I think her neutral wide trouser and sleeveless top at some event looked super.

Since I’m breaking my lurking, also want to add my pennies worth on the white van paparazzi men- the way mumsneters talk about that area it sounds like there’s loads of famous kids/ people about in schools- is there any evidence the photographers (understood confirmed occupation) were looking for hamlet pics at all?

If - as I suspect - the titles will be removed , what would her divorced name be ? Meghan Markle ?
Or would she just keep using it ?

He's not 2nd in LoS anymore.

Harry was third in the line of succession at his highest.

I agree that they’re back for two reasons, money and royal adjacency.

They’ve shown time and time again that they have no intelligence and no strategy.

I suspect they are running out of money - rich beyond the wildest dreams of most people but not rich enough to sustain the lifestyle they want, and Harry made the assumption that coming back here would revert their security provision to what it was before they left.

Probably someone at some point said something to him like “you’re not resident here hence the bespoke arrangement on a case by case basis” and being a bear of very little brain he assumed without asking that by moving back to the UK it would just default back to the provision it was before, not considering that their status is entirely different now.

He’s also desperate to get back into the royal fold given that he has nothing else to offer and their money making efforts are failing badly, and he’s desperate for his kids to be seen as royal, which has a better chance if they’re brought up in the British schooling system and develop English accents.

I honestly don’t think either of them will have stopped to think about any of it more than that, hence they’re flailing around furiously now that their plan, such as it was, hasn’t worked.

As an aside on the whole “paparazzi near the school” thing, even if they haven’t made it up, it’s such a non event. I mean nothing actually happened, no photographs were taken, nobody invaded the school ground - and even if photos had been taken it’s photos, not a threat to life. I’m not saying it’s fine for children’s privacy to be invaded, but this is not the kind of thing that requires armed taxpayer funded security.

I live very close to Lambrook school and drive past it periodically, and it’s always completely quiet like any other school. It didn’t even twig to me that it’s where the Wales’ kids go to school until recently. And that’s a known and publicised place.

As @Puzzledandpissedoff has said - Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex is the divorced term.

Yes but if the title is removed ?

Also I have only seen it reported that the men had backpacks. There hasn't been any mention of cameras (that I've seen) though obviously they could have been using/planning to use phone cameras. So what was in the backpacks? Lunch?
Even if it's true there was a white van and two men with backpacks hanging around, the idea that the van hire company identified them as "international paparazzi/photographers" is risible. As far as I have seen there is no proof at all that they were photographers/paparazzi.

I hear that the good people of Sussex are using the slogan "Not My Duke" . . . .

TwiX is reporting that Neil Shaun is saying that Harry phoned up George at Eton to wish him good luck.

a) IF TRUE stalker
b) IF TRUE he would have spoken to the HM so good luck with that, H
c) IF TRUE and the HM was unavailable, H would have spoke to the House Matron and she will be very well aware what H thinks of the school matrons.

And…. block.

So many typos 🤦‍♀️

Now that would be a great children's book...

Megs only looks short & apple shaped compared to Catherine POW, but then most of us would. Bloody hell that lovely, delightful woman is shaped like a jockey's whip. She is SO thin almost any normal woman would look fat compared to her. I don't doubt that she is of a healthy weight for height. And of course, we all want her to be healthy overall.

But most woman aren't naturally built like twigs. Lucky her I guess.

She'd be like Fergie: unable to style herself Duchess any more.

The Sussexes could have been important, assisting the Queen, then King Charles and then King William in their duties and using the great platform they had to promote issues important to them in a dignified way (Harry with veterans, less sure about Meghan because it's not clear which social issues are important to her), but they blew it.

The reason we don't know where their kids go to school is because they don't want that to be made public, which is fair enough. But the hysterical and attention-seeking way they are going about demanding privacy for their kids is counterproductive. It's not really a secret where other royal children (Harry and William's first cousins when they were children, now their first cousins' children) go to school, although it's not particularly advertised. It's not really that difficult as a royal to secure your kids' privacy without having to surround them in strict secrecy and weaponise them as part of your misguided battle with the media.

I believe there are websites where one can purchase titles . . . .

I like Neil Sean and enjoy looking at the various places he broadcasts from. But I honestly don't believe that H would have been able to speak to George. I am sure Eton/Royal Protection Officers have a very stringent vetting system for phone calls

The only time Meghan ever looked consistently good in clothes was during her brief stint as a working royal, when the palace or whoever styled her and bought her clothes and dressed her to look elegant and sophisticated.

It's true that she doesn't have the most effective body shape for showing off clothes, but her other - and perhaps bigger - problem is that she has no sense of personal style. Many of her fashion choices are highly questionable and the way she chooses to wear clothes often makes them look bad on her.

As an aside on the whole “paparazzi near the school” thing, even if they haven’t made it up, it’s such a non event. I mean nothing actually happened, no photographs were taken, nobody invaded the school ground - and even if photos had been taken it’s photos, not a threat to life. I’m not saying it’s fine for children’s privacy to be invaded, but this is not the kind of thing that requires armed taxpayer funded security.

It was pointed out clearly during Harry's court case against the Home Office that RAVEC-allocated security is for genuine security threats, not for dealing with privacy issues like photographers.

With regard to the recent episode near the school, if it actually occurred as reported, with two unknown people monitored for two hours near a school by a security team with no-one intervening, someone made interesting decisions.

Would she keep the duchess title if H remarried?

Yes, she'd be Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. The new wife would be the Duchess of Sussex.
As pp have said, she already uses the divorced version.

How would Neil Sean know any of this? Has he actually said it or is it just TwiX saying he said it?

M needs clothes to be well fitted with good undergarments and lining. I think the palace were doing that. She also needs to stop wearing oversized things, that only works on tall and thin people.

Late to the party - as ever.

But agree totally. Shauna has never been a fan of KC3 (which is her right), but she was completely biased in her coverage of Swan Song, and her dislike of Charles & Camilla completely clouded her judgement. She used her reputation as being "non partisan" to try and persuade others.

I also replied to her on TwiX pointing this out and where she was wrong (IMO). I didn't get blocked, but saw she'd changed her account to private so I couldn't see it anymore, unless I followed her. Which I didn't want to after that.

According to the BBC, the police stated that the white van men were international paparazzi and the van was rented.

"Two men, both wearing backpacks, were spotted circling the perimeter of the school, with police later identifying one of them as an international press photographer."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw0kl62zn0p7o

I’m sure there’s some shapes she would look great in.

Not a fashion expert, but simple lines seem to suit her best. There was a yellow day dress she wore as a working royal that I liked, and a red evening dress (not the Carolina Herrera horror).

Red dress doesn't want to download for some reason, but you can see it here: https://www.marieclaire.com/fashion/a31269848/meghan-markle-red-cape-dress-mountbatten-festival-of-music/