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Do you believe Charles Spencer about Charles Windsor's reported remark?

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OneLilacHedgehog · 18/09/2026 22:10

Do you believe Charles Spencer that Charles Windsor said to him during a phone call "we'll forget her soon enough."

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damnatiomemoriae · 20/09/2026 18:00

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 20/09/2026 17:41

Actually, I remember where you said you were a criminal defense lawyer. Not sure if the thread got deleted but I know I saw it and I am betting others did also.

Ah now. It really doesn’t matter.

I do not doubt them in the slightest.

I have to go though. I’m flying to Mars at 1805.

moon walk space GIF by US National Archives
Cathandkin · 20/09/2026 18:04

Lavenderandbrown · 20/09/2026 17:52

@ANNotherWriter I am in another time zone. The term flapping in the wind is an American expression which to me means …left vulnerable exposed or abandoned in a tough situation without support or protection.

But as PP and yourself have reminded Diana did make herself vulnerable with refusal of security. I always like to think Diana was going to put on her seat belt but hadn’t gotten to it or was distracted from it by the paparazzi. It certainly has been a cautionary tale…drunk driving and no seat belt with the most terminal outcome.

I do wish Charles and the Queen would have been more protective of Diana as the mother to W and H after the divorce. The US press has always made it seem they were quite cold and indifferent to her post divorce.

She was an adult woman who made her own decisions.
Can you imagine the criticism from someone like this OP if they had dared to intervene in Diana's life? 😱

jeffgoldblum · 20/09/2026 18:13

TheRoyalInkPot · 20/09/2026 16:50

I am not sure how the two situations are comparable ?
Camila is a step mum to two boys who didn't want her to marry their dad with a long ,long history of nasty episodes that tore their mum apart
What had meghan done ?

??????? Harry was 19! William 22!

Illegally18 · 20/09/2026 18:15

Cathandkin · 20/09/2026 18:04

She was an adult woman who made her own decisions.
Can you imagine the criticism from someone like this OP if they had dared to intervene in Diana's life? 😱

The driver was on his day off and having a drink at a bar. Dodi called him and told him to chauffeur them to a restaurant. The Fayeds didn't respect their employees private lives. If the driver had said no, he would have very likely lost his job. He's the one I feel sorry for.

Cathandkin · 20/09/2026 18:24

Illegally18 · 20/09/2026 18:15

The driver was on his day off and having a drink at a bar. Dodi called him and told him to chauffeur them to a restaurant. The Fayeds didn't respect their employees private lives. If the driver had said no, he would have very likely lost his job. He's the one I feel sorry for.

Yes, good point

Cathandkin · 20/09/2026 18:25

jeffgoldblum · 20/09/2026 18:13

??????? Harry was 19! William 22!

I have no idea why they - and particularly Harry - are infantilised.

damnatiomemoriae · 20/09/2026 18:33

It was a day of poor decisions.

Sometimes a handful of poor decisions are the reason there is one big terrible consequence.

On any other day it might have been just any other day.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 20/09/2026 19:04

damnatiomemoriae · 20/09/2026 18:00

Ah now. It really doesn’t matter.

I do not doubt them in the slightest.

I have to go though. I’m flying to Mars at 1805.

You are right. It doesn't matter. Lawyer, paralegal, they're still changing words to fit their agenda.
I guess I'm just tired and need a nap. 😴

Violinist64 · 20/09/2026 19:08

I think the late Queen had the perfect riposte in a similar situation:"Recollections may vary."

damnatiomemoriae · 20/09/2026 19:10

My late grandma would have countered any such guff with ‘Ye are havering shite’.

Recollections may vary is but the posh equivalent ☺️

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:29

Violinist64 · 20/09/2026 19:08

I think the late Queen had the perfect riposte in a similar situation:"Recollections may vary."

Oh Spencer's even taken that on!

His latest toys out the pram rant is that the KIng's response was 'along the lines of' what the late Queen said' as if he's just 'copying Mummy.'

And of course, her words were aimed at H&M. Who are in all this with Spencer. He's now become their 'security' supporter, drawing parallels with what happened to Diana.

Serenster · 20/09/2026 19:30

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 15:28

Seriously this is nasty and a personal attack.
I am a paralegal. But go on tell me what great legal knowledge you have?

I find this deeply ironic given earlier today you yourself were casting aspersions at my legal status in a post earlier today 🤣

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:33

Illegally18 · 20/09/2026 18:15

The driver was on his day off and having a drink at a bar. Dodi called him and told him to chauffeur them to a restaurant. The Fayeds didn't respect their employees private lives. If the driver had said no, he would have very likely lost his job. He's the one I feel sorry for.

Hey, you have no idea of that.
Evidence they didn't respect their employees private lives?

What evidence?

The Harrods scandal of his father?

You have no idea that he would have lost his job.

Oxo01 · 20/09/2026 19:44

I do not believe him

Serenster · 20/09/2026 19:46

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:33

Hey, you have no idea of that.
Evidence they didn't respect their employees private lives?

What evidence?

The Harrods scandal of his father?

You have no idea that he would have lost his job.

After the crash Mohammed al Faye’s wrote to the authorities complaining that the sole survivor, Trevor Rees Davies, was covering up a security operation. You can tell quite a lot about his attitude to his hard working employees here (Trevor had also been providing security for Dodi and Diana in the preceding week when they were on the al Fayed yacht. Despite repeatedly asking for more manpower, just two of them were expected to cover the pair 24/7).

“My former bodyguards, Trevor Rees-Jones, Kes Wingfield and Ben Murrell. It is a fact that these men were turned against me by the security services. They were worried that Trevor Rees-Jones may begin to tell the truth.

The fact is that Trevor Rees-Jones did not lose his memory. He knows exactly what happened between Rue Cambon and the Alma Tunnel. He knows the detail which the security services are so eager to suppress, including why Henri Paul took the route via the Alma Tunnel, the motorcycle which blocked their exit, the flashlight which blinded the driver – the list is endless.

Trevor Rees-Jones book, ‘The Bodyguard’s Story’ is clear evidence of how he, Wingfield and Ben Murrell were turned against me. The book, which was not
written by him but by the security services, is a tissue of lies and deceit designed to denigrate me and to support the British authorities account that the deaths of my son and Princess Diana were the result of a simple traffic accident.

Rees-Jones was appointed as Head of United Nations security in East Timor. The only explanation is that it was an inducement to ensure his continued silence.’
Source - 9 February 2006 - Letter from Mohamed Al Fayed to Lord Stevens

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:47

@TheRoyalInkPot You quoted one of my posts. At least if you want to talk about Camilla, it's double 'll'.

Illegally18 · 20/09/2026 19:47

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:33

Hey, you have no idea of that.
Evidence they didn't respect their employees private lives?

What evidence?

The Harrods scandal of his father?

You have no idea that he would have lost his job.

Well, I was in Paris at the time. The men who were in the bar at the time when he was called were interviewed. This is when the French state did their own investigation. The fayeds were known for their treatment of staff. Who would turn down the boss's son? Especially a boss like fayed?

Janiie · 20/09/2026 19:48

I found Spencer's comment that Diana would be 'cheering him on from the rafters' <who even says that about rafters?!> absolute bollocks. He is causing such shit and misery for William I would imagine Diana would be furious and another to add to the long list of relatives estranged from him.

Spencer and Harry are both so absolutely thick and delusional.

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 19:54

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:33

Hey, you have no idea of that.
Evidence they didn't respect their employees private lives?

What evidence?

The Harrods scandal of his father?

You have no idea that he would have lost his job.

You've obviously never worked with rich influential people of certain nationalities.

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:57

Illegally18 · 20/09/2026 19:47

Well, I was in Paris at the time. The men who were in the bar at the time when he was called were interviewed. This is when the French state did their own investigation. The fayeds were known for their treatment of staff. Who would turn down the boss's son? Especially a boss like fayed?

Anyone who was not fit to drive- and hadn't he been taking drugs as well? Maybe prescription ones but ones which clouded his ability to drive.

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:58

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 19:54

You've obviously never worked with rich influential people of certain nationalities.

Just because someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean they are lacking in relevant experience.

Illegally18 · 20/09/2026 19:59

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 19:54

You've obviously never worked with rich influential people of certain nationalities.

How right you are!

fuschiaproudparrot · 20/09/2026 20:01

ANNotherWriter · 20/09/2026 19:58

Just because someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean they are lacking in relevant experience.

That's not what I said though is it ? Reread what I said. I've worked for people where you have had to back out of the room or you were fired.

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 20:02

Serenster · 20/09/2026 19:30

I find this deeply ironic given earlier today you yourself were casting aspersions at my legal status in a post earlier today 🤣

I was not casting aspersions at anyone. I don't remember what your comment was. But I did point out some people who posted legal stuff were posting incorrect stuff.

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Serenster · 20/09/2026 20:11

OneLilacHedgehog · 20/09/2026 20:02

I was not casting aspersions at anyone. I don't remember what your comment was. But I did point out some people who posted legal stuff were posting incorrect stuff.

But you have an excellent memory you have told us?

And, please do give me an example of me posting “incorrect legal stuff”. I am very much waiting….

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