PR disasters thread 31

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

Have the eagles landed yet? Another thread to discuss yet more Sussex shenanigans!

I don’t understand how she was able to get past security and into the actual wedding.

He says that some of the incidents he was called to, especially involving children, promoted him to engage with therapy and deal with his own feelings. I think that was a very mature response, and a positive step.

But she isn't British royalty - and her is the rub.

The US know she is American, they have seen her as the deal or no deal girl and getting frisky on Suits.

The RF are interesting because they are different, they live in castles, they have a particular accent, they are othered, apart- they certainly don't post pictures of twerking in hospital.

America has it's own 'American' royalty which is American successful.

I think from the State visit there is still great interest in the RF, but MM will never be Royal, she just married into it.

According to SM at the time, they were in a some sort of relationship which had not been made public. Apparently, they travelled from the US to Jamaica on the same plane - him in First and her in Economy - and allegedly she then wrote him a message saying he was treating her like a pheasant (sic).

I have no idea if any of this is true, but it would explain how she got through security.

But she could have been seen as royal. Catherine and Sophie both married in and they are certainly seen as such. And we have examples of Americans who have successfully married in to the British aristocracy. So being a married in American isn’t a barrier to being seen as royal per se. It’s that she has never acquired royal mores and does not behave in any way like a royal. As you say, hospital twerking is one example of a no no.
If she had been canny and taken time to actually integrate into the RF, then maybe further down the line she could have been perceived in the US as royalty. But she isn’t canny

him in First and her in Economy

Such a gentleman. Not.

Meghan is one of those actors who is always " the same" in every role she plays similar to Joan Collins and Liz Hurley to name two more. I could also add Hugh Grant to those. She's no Charlize Theron.

Really? Seriously? How does this “anguish” manifest itself? Are we all rocking and blubbering now Harry is back in town?

Most people have too much going on in their lives to care, and if what he has supposedly down to the country, something people find hard to define btw, causes anyone serious anguish then imho they need to develop a sense of proportion, because there are genuinely a lot more things about our country that merit that emotion, eg the levels of homelessness and children living beneath the poverty line.

She’d never been seen as royal. Unlike Catherine and Sophie she has no class, few manners, no tact and is incapable of keeping in the background.
She hogs the limelight at every opportunity and exploits any occasion for her own ends.
She’s about as far from being seen as royal as it’s possible to be when married-in.

Especially if he was actually treating her like a “pheasant”. He could have put her in his hand luggage. Given her dislike of blood sports, that was an interesting Freudian slip. Or she just couldn’t bring herself to write “peasant”😆😆

She really could have had it all but was greedy and impatient to be a “star”.

As for the West End stage, nah. She’s only interested in “I’m ready for my close-up” roles, and aside from any potential talent or lack thereof, we’ve seen she is not a sticker. Learning copious amounts of lines? I can only see a suitable role being Marcel(la) Marceau.

I cannot bear these insults flung at William re his ‘Work Ethic’.
He served in the military - all three branches - and then worked in Anglesey and Norwich as a rescue helicopter pilot. He donated his wages from these roles.
During this time he became a father of three children.
We have seen how the Late Queen was propelled into the role at 26 and had not much time for her children -in fact, she had already left Charles and Anne for huge long periods while she lived in Malta with Prince Philip.
Charles has always worked hard and was -like Diana- not a hugely ‘there’ parent. The children boarded from 8 yrs old and were split between their parents in school holidays.
William simply was never going to do it like that. With the approval of The Late Queen and the then Prince of Wales he and Catherine have prioritised their young children. Louis is only 8.
No, he doesn’t do as many engagements as his father or Anne. But he also has the Duchy of Cornwall to attend to plus whatever behind the scene meetings. I expect he has also received more ‘training’ for the role of monarch than any previous one.
To the nasty -and yes, l do think you are nasty- people who critique his ‘work ethic’ I would say this. You don’t know what he does 24 hrs a day, He doesn’t talk about everything he does and it’s none of our business. He -unlike the rest of us- as he ages will only see his workload and responsibilities increase.
He will never retire. He will work till he dies -and don’t think it isn’t work. I suspect 3-4 hrs every day of the ‘red boxes’ becomes incredibly tedious and rather dull after a decade or so.
We all - nearly- are in agreement that he and Catherine are doing a great job with their children.
HE is the man who has -with the help of his wife & her family- broken the ‘generational pain’. I suspect his extended family has too. In no previous generation would a bluff Yorkshireman have been allowed to have the relationship with a Prince of Wales that Mike Tindall has.
Im 50-something (I can’t say it. I can’t bloody believe it) - my body is creaking a bit and I haven’t got anywhere near the energy I had 20 yrs ago. I can’t imagine thinking that my workload would be increasing massively and would be like that until I died.
For all of those who bitch about Williams perceived lack of work were you as vocal saying it was terrible how much the King and the late Queen, and Prince Philip do/did decade(s) after retirement age?? No. Thought not.

Well, yes. That’s what I mean by not integrating. She is incapable of behaving in a royal way
because she is not genuinely adaptable and is not at all interested in learning about how people in Royal circles behave. Because she thinks her way of doing things is the only way

I don’t think she would dare tread the boards in the West End.
She’s hardly an accomplished actress - and we all know she would, in the great British tradition -get booed.
Maybe she should try Pantomime-everyone boos there and it’s rather well paid too albeit hard work.

@OrangeKia "I don't know what was on the post of yours in this thread that got deleted by MNHQ, but I can imagine it wasn't pleasant."

Wrong poster. That was BillysBoy, not me.

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Thank you, @DaisyDooley- a very good response.

I know. Imagine even doing that!

I wouldn’t know personally because I’ve only ever seen her in Suits, and one episode of Castle where the role was different to her role of Suits.

You must have seen most of her back catalogue (so to speak) then!

She could be an amazing star guest at some Cotswolds Panto.

I think that would be a perfect fit for her.. playing some haughty Duchess character.

@DaisyDooley - couldn't agree more! Those people who judge W&C's 'work ethic' on a pay-per-view ribbon cutting scale can't be arsed to look deeper into everything that they do behind the scenes, including shaping the future of the RF in the way their children are brought up.
And that comment is in no way intended to denigrate the work of all the other WRs, W&C have a unique role in the WRF.

I'm amazed someone as arrogant as MM would tolerate being treated like that.

As if their work is about "ribbon cutting" nowadays, anyway.