PR disasters thread 27

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

A shiny new thread to continue the chat on the Sussexes summer shenanigans!

Morning lovelies!
Sorry I was MIA. Birthday weekend.
Anyway, Catherine has NOT worn Diana’s lovely sapphire brooch necklace.
The piece was a gift from the Queen Mother to the the Princess of Wales on her wedding . Diana wasn’t a huge brooch fan so had it mounted on those rows of tiny pearls to make it into a stunning necklace,
We haven’t seen Catherine in either of the Saudi/Qatari wedding necklaces either (both sapphire suites of jewellry, both very different).
However - we don’t know which son got them!
There’s also a lovely diamond necklace with a heart shaped motif on it which Charles had a hand in designing which was his gift to Diana after William’s birth so I assume William got that.
I think of Meghan had any of the big gun pieces she would hve worn them.
I suspect wedding gift pieces may have been given to William to keep them within the main line -it wouldn’t look good if they came up for sale in a generation would it.
I don’t think it would have been as simple as William and Harry sitting down with Dianas jewellry box and going ‘I’ll have this piece and you can have that’.
It may not have been decided until they were adults or maybe their Grandmother Frances and their Spencer Aunts helped them.
Either way -I don’t think Harry has lots of big pieces.
Hope that helps!

Not sure she got her fingers burnt or backed the wrong horse. At the time they were very hot property. She secured the very first of the tell alls and it was a massive global reaction. I think it was one of the biggest ‘scoops’ of her career - so much so it prompted Michele Obama to speak out the next day. OW had been grooming MM for years and continues to do so for the divorce interview IMHO.

Then that may account for the giggle and hand over mouth pose she did. She was giving what she thought was a cute ‘that’s me told’ to hide her embarrassment.

Emotionally retarded and developmentally stunted teenagers

I seem to recall that W and H agreed that whoever was married first should have Diana’s engagement ring but I also have a vague memory of Harry later saying he wasn’t happy about that .

That was simply speculation.
We were also told William chose her watch and Harry the engagement ring. Harry mentioned it in Spare but since I refuse to read his untruthful waffle I’m not sure what he said -and I wouldn't necessarily believe it anyway.
William , the gentleman protector of ‘mummy’ has simply said nothing.

I think William knows he cannot control the narrative of what is written about Princess Diana . He quietly goes about working with homeless people which IS her legacy to him.
Im sure within the family and wider circle he protects ‘mummy’.
Princess Diana belonged to The United Kingdom & to some degree the world.
Mummy belonged to him & Harry and he has never ever betrayed that bond.
He knew her in a way Harry never did.
There’s no doubting that she adored both her children -Harry was her naughty baby, but William was her Pride & Joy.
The Apple of her eye and the one who would become King & put Spencer blood on the throne. Never forget that Diana was utterly a monarchist and would be appalled &furious at the damage Harry & Meghan have tried to inflict on William & his Throne.

OW desperately back tracking but her credibility was shot. However, she's keeping them sweet for the post divorce interview and it may be H who delivers the best goods.

She was made an utter fool of: why else did she try to have all traces of it obliterated??

Charles must really rue the day he married Diana.

Never a good look in middle age.

Thanks @DaisyDooley
It makes sense that big wedding gift pieces would stay with the first son or effectively become part of the Royal jewellery collection. I hope so, I think you are correct Meghan would absolutely have worn anything big that had come her way.
I think Catherine doesn’t choose to wear anything big of these iconic pieces because

1. It’s not her style
2. She knows the press would make a big deal of it. Honestly the “sweet nod to Diana” every time she wears anything drives me nuts.

I wonder when we will ever see those items again.
Yes there was a very pretty heart necklace that was Charles gift to her after William was born. IIRC she wore it quite a lot when she first acquired it but not after the marriage went downhill. I wonder what she was given after Harry. Anyway again, a piece like that with the emotional back story is not one anyone is likely to wear anytime soon. Shame. I’d volunteer! 😂

No one else wanted him (bit like h) I remember the press always trying to make out what a frisky, handsome, action man he was, it was embarrassing. To women his own age he was unattractive and wimpy. He certainly wasn't Camilla's first choice!

Rubbish. Charles had lots of glamorous girlfriends.
I think in his time he was very attractive. See the pictures of young women swarming him in the surf in Australia.
But of course not many fancied the job.
Which I think was the issue for Camilla. Andrew Parker Bowles was always a player and it meant they were both free to pursue their affairs but she didn’t have to be POW and her children got to live a normal life. She had her cake and got to eat it, at least until the press caught up and things like the recording of her phone call to Charles happened. (I’ve never thought those recordings of Diana - Squidgygate and C&C - tampongate were accidental).

Oh wow, the Squidgygate stuff, that was crazy.

All this nonsense that M's hinting at about being some sort of reincarnation is absolutely loopy when you think about Diana's reputation at the time.

My memory of her is of an apparent ingenue who became a woman who shagged a lot of men (BM, JH, JG, OH, WC, HK, DF), some of whom were married and whose wives were upset - Julia Carling got a lot of airtime and her misery and anger did Diana's reputation a lot of damage. Diana definitely liked the limelight, knew she was very attractive, supported AIDS victims and HALO, was a gay icon, and died in a car crash because she failed to wear a seatbelt during a summer when she'd not been the greatest mum for various reasons. That year when she most needed to calm the fuck down and get settled in a nice gaff with a small, trusted staff, she was chasing the heart surgeon HK and then walked into the lair of Mohamed Fayed, a man now being compared with Epstein in terms of the scale of his trafficking and sexual offending. There's a vulnerability in there, but there's no saint. The people on the TV footage that I heard losing their minds at the funeral procession did not have British accents.

I'm not sure what Meghan's 'Project Diana' is supposed to achieve except dredge up a lot of interest in all the less savoury elements of Diana's life that are out there to find with about an hour's basic research. Maybe M hasn't done any research at all about Diana? H's recollections will be bloody worthless, like most else in his head.

Diana was far from the perfect parent. HAM should really consider a backlash when they attempt a 30 year anniversary documentary

If they do attempt such a documentary, ( and they say they aren't) ) I think they should be prepared for a great deal of indifference.

I don't think Harry would allow a documentary that he was associated with to include all the controversies of the last few years of her life.

The risk, if they do a documentary (which presumably would be all sweetness and light and Diana's mantle having fallen on Meghan), is that they will increase interest in others making more realistic programmes.

It would be aaallll about Meghan, how St. Diana’s influence has shaped and infiltrated every aspect of Meghan’s life (I reckon she sees herself as how a novice nun should behave, demure, so caring and thoughtful 🤢).
Harry probably sees himself as interceding between the pair of them, gently encouraging and ensuring that ‘Meghan gets what Meghan wants’

Dear god, I need to stop taking the morphine!

David and Harry "so cute together " apparently

https://www.dailymail.com/lifestyle/article-16041091/Prince-Harrys-father-Dukes-bond-music-mogul-David-Foster-76-set-Sussexes-Canadian-hideaway-Megxit-wife-Katharine-McPhee-42-starred-school-musicals-Meghan.html

The Oz pic on the beach was famously set up. A young Australian model Jane Priestley iirc was paid to do it and plant a kiss on him because at 30 and still single he wasnt looking likely to produce an heir. It was to create a playboy buzz around him.

Quick Google
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-19/the-real-story-behind-king-charles-1979-photo/104478602

God she does this all the time. Just saw clips of her touch her nose while watching PFW, and a new promo for her jam while laughing over nothing. It's gross.

It might resurrect Julia Carling's journalistic and TV career ... she's only 61, and I bet she's got a lot to say these days that wasn't broadcast back in the 1990s. In fact, I felt back then that both the Carlings were a bit silenced tbh about the sainted Di, to save the Queen's blushes and the reputation of the Royal Family as an institution that cradled the Head of State constitutionally. And also - the unlikely shagmeister John Major was still the PM, I think?

But Harry never seems to learn about opening cans of worms and Pandora's boxes.

I always understood that the biggest obstacle was that he was required to marry a virgin and by the mid-70s, there were simply none to be had. Well, just one.
If he'd got his act together in his early 20s he would have had more choice.

Agree she ‘packed a lot in’ - she was shagging BM before PH turned 2 - then she was involved with a series of many other married and attached men often in an obsessive way. I suggest this problematic behaviour consumed and preoccupied her enough to inadvertently emotionally neglect her own very young boys.