Eugenie’s baby (no.3)

[EmpressSisi]

Eugenie gave birth to a daughter on Monday. She was born in Lisbon, Portugal.

The baby’s name has not been revealed yet.

If anyone cares.

I don’t believe in “Royal” blood @ExOptimist
I would say her blood consists of similar materials as your blood or mine - plasma, blood cells and platelets.

I donated blood yesterday, so I tend to agree with you @deeahgwitch. They asked many questions but ancestry never came up.

😂

Those names are still the names of her children’s ancestors though. It’s fairly common for people to name people after people in their family tree, and even more common for them to name their daughters after grandmothers they loved and were close to.

I like the name and like it with the middlenames too.

Annina is Portuguese but not spelt or pronounced like that as far as I know. It's a relatives name, and pronounced with an extra 'i' sound between the last n and a but spelt with an 'h'. It is a strange choice but maybe they just heard it and liked it.

Does their non Royal blood not count? No ' beloved grandmothers' on anyone's non Royal side? Of course both of them are desperate to compensate for the non Royal titles. Anne's children and GC haven't got Royal names. It's only the ones who need to cling onto their Royal connections who have done so. Even Harry didn't bother with Archie then once they were out of the RF went overboard with Lilibet!

Their children do have names from his side of the family.

Zara has two royal middle names - Anne and Elizabeth. Peter is a royal name, as is his middle name, Andrew.

Peter’s daughters are names Anne and Elizabeth. Two of Zara’s are named Philip and Elizabeth.

There are many things for which to criticise the royals. Naming children after relatives seems completely innocuous.

You're totally missing my point.
Never mind 🫣

Thanks! I really hate this "royal blood" nonsense. Oh Eugenie's children have half "royal blood" ?
Sounds horribly like AMW and his insistence that his daughters had special status because they are "blood princesses". Of course Catherine and Sophie aren't!
Such snobbery. I didn't expect to see it on here, though.

Wouldn't Eugenie have half royal blood? Her mother wasn't royal was she. I wonder how far we go, quarter, eighth or is it like the American racist one drop rule?

Who knows! Just like the "one drop" rule, there's hardly a scientific basis.

'Royalty' being a made up concept it follows that there's no such thing as 'royal blood' but if you do subscribe to such an outlandish notion, both her parents are now commoners which by extension must now make her one too.

Good point!

I suspect that Victoria is now being reserved for any future daughter George may have.

Elizabeth, Margaret, Charles, William. They are royal names, but only if you go centuries back. I don't think there's a monopoly on certain names within the extended royal family and have no idea what George will call any future daughter.

I did, however, suspect when a son was born to Catherine and William that he would be called George, as a symbol of stability and continuity.

Zara, Peter, Savannah, Isla are hardly royal names.

They all have several middle names anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

Aren't pretty much all social categories made-up concepts?

There's no such thing as "royal blood", but I think it's just being used to mean royal ancestry.

In what way did Andrew insist that his daughters had special status? They just have the status that goes with the conventions of their birth as children of a son of the monarch. Like the Dukes of Kent and Gloucester and their prince/princess siblings, the only difference being that they're not working royals, as Princess Alexandra was.

Any baby is a gift from God x

I do like Eugenie and Jack. They seem level-headed. I loved watching their wedding ceremony and you can tell they are in love. They appear to be a very good 'match'.

Happy for them!

If only Harry and Meghan were the same....

This sounds like a made-up story, similar to the story that Meghan Markle had been offered an acting role in a UK-based TV show.

The Duke & Duchess of Gloucester are very much working Royals. They were at the commemoration for victims and survivors just a few days ago

And I am sure the Duke of Kent maintains a close association with at least one regiment despite being 90

Sorry, this should have read Victims and Survivors of Terrorism

Sorry, typing fast and wasn't clear. I meant Beatrice and Eugenie are like the Kents and the Gloucesters in terms of birth/status but, unlike the Kents and the Gloucesters, they are not working royals. The other difference is that as women, the elder was not going to inherit her father's dukedom and hence there was less obligation on them to be working royals as they are not royal duchesses. Nonetheless, neither was Princess Alexandra, sister of the Duke of Kent, yet she was still a working royal.

Prince Michael of Kent, the younger brother of the Duke of Kent, is not a working royal and never has been, I believe, aside from a few engagments in the Commonwealth. He pursued his own career, first in the army and later a consultancy business. He has many charity interests, however.

Similarly, Prince Richard, the Duke of Gloucester initially trained and practised as an architect. It was only when his older brother, Prince William, died when a small plane he was flying crashed, that Prince Richard took over the duties of the dukedom when his father died and became a working royal.

So, there's definitely precedent for the children of the monarch's younger sons to have a career - it's not a new thing.

Edit to clarify that Prince Michael of Kent's engagements abroad were in the Commonwealth.

Prince Michael of Kent was out of the line of succession by the time he left the Army, due to Princess Michael being a Catholic, hence never becoming a working royal.

He was out back in the line of succession in 2015 after the changes were made.

I literally just explained.
AMW insisted on their special privilege because of their "blood" and wanted them to be working royals.
It's really not that difficult to understand!