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The royal family

PR disasters thread 24

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/07/2026 16:04

What more summer shenanigans await us from the Montecito duo?

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Starryfifty · Yesterday 09:25

SheinSussex · Yesterday 00:35

I also feel a bit sorry for Meghan as her husband is the biggest tool in the tool box. But she must have known that before she married him. If ever he becomes King Henry then the country will become a Republic faster than you can say “‘ere, where did all those damn guillotines go?”

Of course she saw him for what he was but she had her heart set on becoming a Global Queen or such nonsense

bluegreygreen · Yesterday 09:39

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 09:10

I think that Charles is separating his roles as monarch and father in his dealings with Harry. Is a difficult balance with someone a unpredictable as Harry is but he's doing his best to stick to the original statement. The Sussexes are much loved members of the family and not part of the monarchy. It comes with him making it clear that Harry has made his life aboard and the statements that the palace don't comment on private family matters.

The press love to blur the line but it's quite clear in palace communications. Harry saw his Dad, not the monarch. The monarch refuses to be drawn into Harry's security arguments. The monarch won't allow a Palace to be used as a backdrop for Harry's whinging.

I think the line is clear but also too subtle for a lot of social media commentators. Hence the cries for Charles to speak up on matters that as monarch he can't comment on.

Ultimately I believe that the future of Harry's relationship with his family depends on whether he can keep quiet about the Highgrove tea. It's been clear since he left the monarchy that he is the biggest leaker, if he leaks this meeting I suspect he is going to find it hard to persuade the King to spend much time with him in future.

Very much agree with this, @MrsLeonFarrell

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 09:51

PinkHairbrushClub · Yesterday 06:44

I skipped the end of the last thread. It was painful!

What do you call those of us who are sort of republican in that I don’t think we should have a monarchy in modern times as the idea of someone being born better than everyone else is nonsense, but don’t really like the alternative because we know our country would bugger it all up spectacularly and I actually quite like W&K and the kids. Maybe a “republican’t”?

Thanks for the times articles. H’s comments on the judgement ar so misjudged. I know everything else compounds it but that single action is such a clear demonstration of how he is fuelled by anger and little else. For someone born into such privilege he is so very bitter.

I agree with others, it’s an highly unattractive trait.

The fact that H states he didn't see the relevance of an email in which he was quizzing a friend about a leak and the friend replied "Laura's told five of her friends already" says everything about his arrogance, his entitlement, his low IQ (intellectual and emotional) and his mindset - I am angry, I want this, how dare anybody expect facts and evidence of me!

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 09:59

Strawberriesandcaviar · Yesterday 06:51

That Hilary Rose piece is hilarious

I tried to provide an archive link but it didn't work.

News just in from Montecito: With Love, Meghan has been nominated for an Emmy! Who saw that coming? Now true, it is a Daytime Emmy, which is to the actual Emmys what Bargain Hunt is to Slow Horses, but still. If nothing else, the nomination of WLM for outstanding lifestyle series answers the question that has been puzzling those of us who watched it and wrote on our notes: what the hell just happened here? How do you describe a programme with no premise? Two whole series plus a Christmas special of elegant wafting and neutral separates with no discernible point? So it’s a relief that, thanks to the Daytime Emmy nominations, we now know that what the Duchess of Sussex made was a lifestyle programme, as opposed to a cookery programme, or a sun-kissed Blue Peter, or a protracted fever dream with great eye make-up and Princess Diana’s watch.
As an act of penitence, because I come from Manchester, not Montecito, and therefore didn’t realise it was a lifestyle programme, I have watched it all again. I can confirm that it is quite literally outstanding, packed with so many standout moments that it was a dark day for civilisation when Netflix canned it.
The trailer promised that Meghan would elevate the ordinary and create wonder in every moment, and she did, just not necessarily the sort of wonder she hoped. Between the faffing about with edible flowers and incomprehensible “hosting” tips, WLM is like some sort of deviant hybrid of Annabel Karmel and Pippa Middleton, although even Pippa Middleton — who wrote a book telling us chairs were useful to sit on — didn’t think that bookbinding might be fun. Did the Emmy committee appreciate the episode called It’s Way Past Our Bread-time? Why? What about Just for the Halibut? Did that make any more sense in LA than it does in London? How about the episode where she does pottery painting with Naomi Osaka and tells her she’s rubbish at it? Or the one where she explains, at considerable length, how to wrap a present in a tablecloth? That the episode on bookbinding made the final cut is testament to something but not necessarily skill at making television programmes.
Either way, I have my own reasons for thinking that WLM is outstanding and at the top of the list it’s a dead heat between everything Meghan says and everything she does. Consider, for example, the following dialogue between Meghan and various guests. For context, bear in mind that this is a woman who once approvingly quoted a poem with the line “the parental tentacles of tradition no longer define her truth”. Over to you, Megs.

“I love that you make gumbo sometimes.”
“I do.”

“Have we ever cooked together before?”
“No.”

“Are you comfortable cutting onions?”
“Yes.”

“I love your love of scarves, so I decided to make some.”

“Is this so wild that I do flower arranging and calligraphy?”

“I’m rethinking baking to be a little more spontaneous.”

Pointing to a selection of vases: “Choose a vessel. See what speaks to you.”

And once, to camera, while grinding spices: “Spice grinding!”

As part of Netflix’s multimillion-pound lifestyle programming, we learnt that Meghan once had a job on a game show that came with health insurance; that she thinks Clare Smyth, who has three Michelin stars, is a good cook; and that one way to greet someone who you claim is a dear friend is to say, “It’s so nice to meet you!”
Or perhaps instead the nominations committee was drawn to the outstanding activities on offer in WLM. These include: watching someone fry an egg; watching bread toast; making rosewater (pick rose petals, add water); making French toast; making your own advent calendar and crackers; putting a slice of dried orange in a champagne glass; eating pears with a knife and fork and serving quiche for breakfast; arranging raw broccoli in a circle and describing it as a great way of modernising a Christmas wreath.
Alas, we must wait until October 30 to know if WLM wins, which is a shame. We note in passing that the ceremony will be held at a theatre in Los Angeles, which lies halfway between a McDonald’s and the Museum of Death. If you can’t wait that long for a fix of Meghan, her guest slot on MasterChef Australia airs on July 26, a gracious cameo on a hugely popular programme that she filmed while on a visit to Australia this year for which she was being paid, something she was peeved to note on an earlier visit didn’t happen to an HRH.

But the competition for a Daytime Emmy is stiff, so who knows if she’ll win? To give you an idea of the nominees, if they were held here we’d be talking Bargain Hunt or Homes Under the Hammer. Over there Meghan, our dearly departed Duchess of Sussex, is up against a programme about “the high stakes world of competitive canine sports”; a “heartwarming home renovation series” called George to the Rescue, which seems to be the American equivalent of Love Your Garden; a programme about motherhood; and — my personal favourite — The Wizard of Paws, starring a vet who makes prosthetic limbs. Can The Wizard of Paws compete with spice grinding? Is frying an egg more compelling than a performing dog? If WLM is ultimately deemed less outstanding than a prosthetic paw, is it too much to hope that Meghan will be there in person to hear it, with a camera trained on her reaction?
No doubt, whether she wins or not, in the fullness of time she’ll announce that she did, because that is her truth, and that is what happens when you’re no longer bound by the parental tentacles of tradition. Ultimately what the nominations prove is that she left the royal family to be lumped in with an actress from Days of Our Lives (outstanding lead performance in a daytime drama series) and someone called George who is the American equivalent of Alan Titchmarsh. Perhaps one day it will be worth it.

Aprilfountain · Yesterday 10:01

Have they cleared off home yet, do we know? I must say it's been a relief not to have to see endless pictures in the media of MM prancing around in her ridiculous, unflattering outfits and her fake, rictus grin!

Bredaa · Yesterday 10:06

Aprilfountain · Yesterday 10:01

Have they cleared off home yet, do we know? I must say it's been a relief not to have to see endless pictures in the media of MM prancing around in her ridiculous, unflattering outfits and her fake, rictus grin!

Im gutted we didn’t get to see and hear the pantomime in action this time. Always something new and hilarious to ridicule from the grandiose delusion bully.

MrsFinkelstein · Yesterday 10:06

Just trying to catch up!

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:14

Aprilfountain · Yesterday 10:01

Have they cleared off home yet, do we know? I must say it's been a relief not to have to see endless pictures in the media of MM prancing around in her ridiculous, unflattering outfits and her fake, rictus grin!

He's supposed to appear on James corden unless that was pre-recorded

Aprilfountain · Yesterday 10:22

Bredaa · Yesterday 10:06

Im gutted we didn’t get to see and hear the pantomime in action this time. Always something new and hilarious to ridicule from the grandiose delusion bully.

I think I've had enough of MMs pantomime performances to last me a lifetime lol!

GoldThumb · Yesterday 10:22

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 09:59

I tried to provide an archive link but it didn't work.

News just in from Montecito: With Love, Meghan has been nominated for an Emmy! Who saw that coming? Now true, it is a Daytime Emmy, which is to the actual Emmys what Bargain Hunt is to Slow Horses, but still. If nothing else, the nomination of WLM for outstanding lifestyle series answers the question that has been puzzling those of us who watched it and wrote on our notes: what the hell just happened here? How do you describe a programme with no premise? Two whole series plus a Christmas special of elegant wafting and neutral separates with no discernible point? So it’s a relief that, thanks to the Daytime Emmy nominations, we now know that what the Duchess of Sussex made was a lifestyle programme, as opposed to a cookery programme, or a sun-kissed Blue Peter, or a protracted fever dream with great eye make-up and Princess Diana’s watch.
As an act of penitence, because I come from Manchester, not Montecito, and therefore didn’t realise it was a lifestyle programme, I have watched it all again. I can confirm that it is quite literally outstanding, packed with so many standout moments that it was a dark day for civilisation when Netflix canned it.
The trailer promised that Meghan would elevate the ordinary and create wonder in every moment, and she did, just not necessarily the sort of wonder she hoped. Between the faffing about with edible flowers and incomprehensible “hosting” tips, WLM is like some sort of deviant hybrid of Annabel Karmel and Pippa Middleton, although even Pippa Middleton — who wrote a book telling us chairs were useful to sit on — didn’t think that bookbinding might be fun. Did the Emmy committee appreciate the episode called It’s Way Past Our Bread-time? Why? What about Just for the Halibut? Did that make any more sense in LA than it does in London? How about the episode where she does pottery painting with Naomi Osaka and tells her she’s rubbish at it? Or the one where she explains, at considerable length, how to wrap a present in a tablecloth? That the episode on bookbinding made the final cut is testament to something but not necessarily skill at making television programmes.
Either way, I have my own reasons for thinking that WLM is outstanding and at the top of the list it’s a dead heat between everything Meghan says and everything she does. Consider, for example, the following dialogue between Meghan and various guests. For context, bear in mind that this is a woman who once approvingly quoted a poem with the line “the parental tentacles of tradition no longer define her truth”. Over to you, Megs.

“I love that you make gumbo sometimes.”
“I do.”

“Have we ever cooked together before?”
“No.”

“Are you comfortable cutting onions?”
“Yes.”

“I love your love of scarves, so I decided to make some.”

“Is this so wild that I do flower arranging and calligraphy?”

“I’m rethinking baking to be a little more spontaneous.”

Pointing to a selection of vases: “Choose a vessel. See what speaks to you.”

And once, to camera, while grinding spices: “Spice grinding!”

As part of Netflix’s multimillion-pound lifestyle programming, we learnt that Meghan once had a job on a game show that came with health insurance; that she thinks Clare Smyth, who has three Michelin stars, is a good cook; and that one way to greet someone who you claim is a dear friend is to say, “It’s so nice to meet you!”
Or perhaps instead the nominations committee was drawn to the outstanding activities on offer in WLM. These include: watching someone fry an egg; watching bread toast; making rosewater (pick rose petals, add water); making French toast; making your own advent calendar and crackers; putting a slice of dried orange in a champagne glass; eating pears with a knife and fork and serving quiche for breakfast; arranging raw broccoli in a circle and describing it as a great way of modernising a Christmas wreath.
Alas, we must wait until October 30 to know if WLM wins, which is a shame. We note in passing that the ceremony will be held at a theatre in Los Angeles, which lies halfway between a McDonald’s and the Museum of Death. If you can’t wait that long for a fix of Meghan, her guest slot on MasterChef Australia airs on July 26, a gracious cameo on a hugely popular programme that she filmed while on a visit to Australia this year for which she was being paid, something she was peeved to note on an earlier visit didn’t happen to an HRH.

But the competition for a Daytime Emmy is stiff, so who knows if she’ll win? To give you an idea of the nominees, if they were held here we’d be talking Bargain Hunt or Homes Under the Hammer. Over there Meghan, our dearly departed Duchess of Sussex, is up against a programme about “the high stakes world of competitive canine sports”; a “heartwarming home renovation series” called George to the Rescue, which seems to be the American equivalent of Love Your Garden; a programme about motherhood; and — my personal favourite — The Wizard of Paws, starring a vet who makes prosthetic limbs. Can The Wizard of Paws compete with spice grinding? Is frying an egg more compelling than a performing dog? If WLM is ultimately deemed less outstanding than a prosthetic paw, is it too much to hope that Meghan will be there in person to hear it, with a camera trained on her reaction?
No doubt, whether she wins or not, in the fullness of time she’ll announce that she did, because that is her truth, and that is what happens when you’re no longer bound by the parental tentacles of tradition. Ultimately what the nominations prove is that she left the royal family to be lumped in with an actress from Days of Our Lives (outstanding lead performance in a daytime drama series) and someone called George who is the American equivalent of Alan Titchmarsh. Perhaps one day it will be worth it.

Edited

I feel like I need to watch wizard of paws now!

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:25

GoldThumb · Yesterday 10:22

I feel like I need to watch wizard of paws now!

The wizard of paws sounds awesome 😅😅

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:27

Oh lord, what if she wins ???

Bredaa · Yesterday 10:34

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 09:59

I tried to provide an archive link but it didn't work.

News just in from Montecito: With Love, Meghan has been nominated for an Emmy! Who saw that coming? Now true, it is a Daytime Emmy, which is to the actual Emmys what Bargain Hunt is to Slow Horses, but still. If nothing else, the nomination of WLM for outstanding lifestyle series answers the question that has been puzzling those of us who watched it and wrote on our notes: what the hell just happened here? How do you describe a programme with no premise? Two whole series plus a Christmas special of elegant wafting and neutral separates with no discernible point? So it’s a relief that, thanks to the Daytime Emmy nominations, we now know that what the Duchess of Sussex made was a lifestyle programme, as opposed to a cookery programme, or a sun-kissed Blue Peter, or a protracted fever dream with great eye make-up and Princess Diana’s watch.
As an act of penitence, because I come from Manchester, not Montecito, and therefore didn’t realise it was a lifestyle programme, I have watched it all again. I can confirm that it is quite literally outstanding, packed with so many standout moments that it was a dark day for civilisation when Netflix canned it.
The trailer promised that Meghan would elevate the ordinary and create wonder in every moment, and she did, just not necessarily the sort of wonder she hoped. Between the faffing about with edible flowers and incomprehensible “hosting” tips, WLM is like some sort of deviant hybrid of Annabel Karmel and Pippa Middleton, although even Pippa Middleton — who wrote a book telling us chairs were useful to sit on — didn’t think that bookbinding might be fun. Did the Emmy committee appreciate the episode called It’s Way Past Our Bread-time? Why? What about Just for the Halibut? Did that make any more sense in LA than it does in London? How about the episode where she does pottery painting with Naomi Osaka and tells her she’s rubbish at it? Or the one where she explains, at considerable length, how to wrap a present in a tablecloth? That the episode on bookbinding made the final cut is testament to something but not necessarily skill at making television programmes.
Either way, I have my own reasons for thinking that WLM is outstanding and at the top of the list it’s a dead heat between everything Meghan says and everything she does. Consider, for example, the following dialogue between Meghan and various guests. For context, bear in mind that this is a woman who once approvingly quoted a poem with the line “the parental tentacles of tradition no longer define her truth”. Over to you, Megs.

“I love that you make gumbo sometimes.”
“I do.”

“Have we ever cooked together before?”
“No.”

“Are you comfortable cutting onions?”
“Yes.”

“I love your love of scarves, so I decided to make some.”

“Is this so wild that I do flower arranging and calligraphy?”

“I’m rethinking baking to be a little more spontaneous.”

Pointing to a selection of vases: “Choose a vessel. See what speaks to you.”

And once, to camera, while grinding spices: “Spice grinding!”

As part of Netflix’s multimillion-pound lifestyle programming, we learnt that Meghan once had a job on a game show that came with health insurance; that she thinks Clare Smyth, who has three Michelin stars, is a good cook; and that one way to greet someone who you claim is a dear friend is to say, “It’s so nice to meet you!”
Or perhaps instead the nominations committee was drawn to the outstanding activities on offer in WLM. These include: watching someone fry an egg; watching bread toast; making rosewater (pick rose petals, add water); making French toast; making your own advent calendar and crackers; putting a slice of dried orange in a champagne glass; eating pears with a knife and fork and serving quiche for breakfast; arranging raw broccoli in a circle and describing it as a great way of modernising a Christmas wreath.
Alas, we must wait until October 30 to know if WLM wins, which is a shame. We note in passing that the ceremony will be held at a theatre in Los Angeles, which lies halfway between a McDonald’s and the Museum of Death. If you can’t wait that long for a fix of Meghan, her guest slot on MasterChef Australia airs on July 26, a gracious cameo on a hugely popular programme that she filmed while on a visit to Australia this year for which she was being paid, something she was peeved to note on an earlier visit didn’t happen to an HRH.

But the competition for a Daytime Emmy is stiff, so who knows if she’ll win? To give you an idea of the nominees, if they were held here we’d be talking Bargain Hunt or Homes Under the Hammer. Over there Meghan, our dearly departed Duchess of Sussex, is up against a programme about “the high stakes world of competitive canine sports”; a “heartwarming home renovation series” called George to the Rescue, which seems to be the American equivalent of Love Your Garden; a programme about motherhood; and — my personal favourite — The Wizard of Paws, starring a vet who makes prosthetic limbs. Can The Wizard of Paws compete with spice grinding? Is frying an egg more compelling than a performing dog? If WLM is ultimately deemed less outstanding than a prosthetic paw, is it too much to hope that Meghan will be there in person to hear it, with a camera trained on her reaction?
No doubt, whether she wins or not, in the fullness of time she’ll announce that she did, because that is her truth, and that is what happens when you’re no longer bound by the parental tentacles of tradition. Ultimately what the nominations prove is that she left the royal family to be lumped in with an actress from Days of Our Lives (outstanding lead performance in a daytime drama series) and someone called George who is the American equivalent of Alan Titchmarsh. Perhaps one day it will be worth it.

Edited

I said this on the earlier thead - it is a genius marketing stroke to add this drivel into a the shortlist just to up the PR of the actual awards scheme rather than WLM because its agitation and will stimulate debate, clicks, column inches etc eg The Times - would never have covered these awards - especially the lamest category. It’s also great exposure for the others shortlisted - their programmes will now be brought to much wider public attention.

I was going to say it won’t win - but if the awards company want to extend the spin then it might well.

Also NF will be delighted with the new watchers - even if to ridicule. Helps scrape something back from their poor ROI. Bit like the team at Suits who were delighted it got a second wind courtesy of MM.

“Days of our lives” made me laugh as I see H&M as like one loooong episode of “Sunset Beach” if anyone can remember that hilarious ‘drama’

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:35

Brilliant Times article btw

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:40

Bredaa · Yesterday 10:34

I said this on the earlier thead - it is a genius marketing stroke to add this drivel into a the shortlist just to up the PR of the actual awards scheme rather than WLM because its agitation and will stimulate debate, clicks, column inches etc eg The Times - would never have covered these awards - especially the lamest category. It’s also great exposure for the others shortlisted - their programmes will now be brought to much wider public attention.

I was going to say it won’t win - but if the awards company want to extend the spin then it might well.

Also NF will be delighted with the new watchers - even if to ridicule. Helps scrape something back from their poor ROI. Bit like the team at Suits who were delighted it got a second wind courtesy of MM.

“Days of our lives” made me laugh as I see H&M as like one loooong episode of “Sunset Beach” if anyone can remember that hilarious ‘drama’

Edited

Well it worked as I'm now going to watch the wizard of paws 😊😊

ShamedBySiri · Yesterday 10:47

Starryfifty · Yesterday 10:25

The wizard of paws sounds awesome 😅😅

Yes! I haven’t seen it but I’m already voting for Wizard of Paws ❤️‍🩹🦮❤️

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 11:21

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LipglossAndLies · Yesterday 11:45

Bredaa · Yesterday 10:06

Im gutted we didn’t get to see and hear the pantomime in action this time. Always something new and hilarious to ridicule from the grandiose delusion bully.

Criticising someone's action is one thing but saying you wanted more material to ridicule them sounds more like a pattern of mockery and starts to resemble the kind of behaviour you're condemning 💁‍♀️

LipglossAndLies · Yesterday 11:52

Aprilfountain · Yesterday 10:01

Have they cleared off home yet, do we know? I must say it's been a relief not to have to see endless pictures in the media of MM prancing around in her ridiculous, unflattering outfits and her fake, rictus grin!

It is pretty easy to ignore content about them, scroll on past articles, don't search for it so your algorithms don't push content to you etc 🙂

Lunde · Yesterday 11:54

Cismyfatarse · Yesterday 06:30

I see that one of her competitors, mong the 5 final nominees is "A Different Breed" - a show about dog sport made by dog food company Purina! You couldn't make this up 😂

I see also that lifestyle competitions like Masterchef/Bake Off etc get to be in the Prime Time Emmys whereas Meghan's show is in the less prestigious Daytime awards along with the soap operas

Aprilfountain · Yesterday 12:07

LipglossAndLies · Yesterday 11:52

It is pretty easy to ignore content about them, scroll on past articles, don't search for it so your algorithms don't push content to you etc 🙂

It's really not - I'm a news junkie so I like to check out the newspapers each day and if Ham are doing anything at all, they make very sure that they get the maximum publicity they possibly can!

SheinSussex · Yesterday 12:17

Bredaa · Yesterday 10:34

I said this on the earlier thead - it is a genius marketing stroke to add this drivel into a the shortlist just to up the PR of the actual awards scheme rather than WLM because its agitation and will stimulate debate, clicks, column inches etc eg The Times - would never have covered these awards - especially the lamest category. It’s also great exposure for the others shortlisted - their programmes will now be brought to much wider public attention.

I was going to say it won’t win - but if the awards company want to extend the spin then it might well.

Also NF will be delighted with the new watchers - even if to ridicule. Helps scrape something back from their poor ROI. Bit like the team at Suits who were delighted it got a second wind courtesy of MM.

“Days of our lives” made me laugh as I see H&M as like one loooong episode of “Sunset Beach” if anyone can remember that hilarious ‘drama’

Edited

Wasn’t there an 80s soap called Santa Barbara? We should get the reruns and tap into the Montecito life.

Bubblesgun · Yesterday 12:28

@BigWillyLittleTodger i had posted a question on the last thread which got no answer so posting here.

is true that MM uses an app that allows her and other celebs to post their outfits they wore at events, the app then have clickable links
for the public to buy the outfits. Then 20% is divided between the celeb and the app.

if thats true, apparently MM uses it and keeps thr money she wore at charity events. It s her prerogative of course, but i do find it quite crass because she could give the money to the charity she was supporting that day instead of keeping it to herself.
a) it s not like she needs the money and b) it s really crass to monetise a charity event like that.

is that true? What do you all think?

i cant remember for the life of me where i read it. So cant post a link.

thank you

MyDogClive · Yesterday 12:32

You beat me to the user name! I was going to go with Sussex Shein. The t is optional.

On the whole, I find it easier to ignore and scroll past posts on mumsnet than news outlets, where the headlines catch your eye, even if you don’t click the article.

AnAutumnCrow · Yesterday 12:35

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 07:47

😁 no autumn! , unfortunately you know they don’t acknowledge or listen to anything those of us they have labelled as” haterz” say!! , I’m still labelled as a royalist despite telling them I’m not countless times over the years!!
besides you can’t leave! I need you!

We’re actually a right mix up / mash up on these threads, aren’t we Jeff, @PinkHairbrushClub (good post!) and @HoldMyWine. We’re a whole spectrum of republicans & republican-lites through to reluctant monarchists with a few royalists too.

I hope that this can be acknowledged a bit better from now on by the squadroonies (and a couple of the more hard-core Republic/republicanism supporters). We’re a broad church who see H&M’s actions as worth discussing.

Anyway 🍿 ahoy!