Page 12 | So why is Harry safe but not Meghan and the kids?

canthavetoomanylights · 2026-07-10T06:58:50+00:00

Sorry if this is obvious/already discussed.. I can’t find it. Im just wondering why Harry can do these ‘engagements’ but his wife and kids can’t step in the country.

Justdancevance · Today 07:56

The last visit shows when the Sussex PR keeps quiet, they can move around quite safely. Harry needs to accept that,

sunflowersintheday · Today 07:58

Justdancevance · Today 07:56

The last visit shows when the Sussex PR keeps quiet, they can move around quite safely. Harry needs to accept that,

They were all perfectly safe. Of course.

DJPJ · Today 08:02

sunflowersintheday · Today 07:42

They're perfectly safe. It's not about security. It's about status.

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It’s about performance and photo opp content creation for NF and their ‘brand’ - they want to be seen screeching around London in a motorcade, blue lights, armed guards, outriders - swishing in and out of palace and castle gates - they want to be seen - they love the drama.

They have already taken the ‘risk’ multiple times traveling solo, as couple and with their DC to and in the UK with the same security provided as they have now. So they are not walking their talk.

Most people would be delighted and relieved that the highest level of international intelligence coordinated reviewing any threats had declared it safe for you and your DCs - why wouldn’t you? But not H&M they expect UK taxpayers busting a gut on min wage in a COL to fund their irrational drug induced paranoia / status delusions to create a visual to bolster their online sales of tat - ignorant, arrogant and entitled

Arjan · Today 08:02

They were totally safe with their own private bodyguards, but I doubt it will be reassuring for him, he is even more pissed that all of the UK now know how much he has overplayed and exaggerated his security risk. I think he took out his frustration on Judge Nicklin with that dozy of an accusatory statement when he lost his privacy case.

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 08:04

DJPJ · Today 07:39

You haven’t actually heard them say an anything much this week!!!??? Where have you been….

Don’t need media outlets - get it all from the horses mouth….how about this?

Read the full statement from Harry and fellow claimant Baroness Doreen Lawrence here:
"We came to court seeking justice and accountability. But we have received neither. This judgment represents a complete reversal of the position which previous judges have taken in relation to the hacking claims successfully brought against both News Group Newspapers and Mirror Group Newspapers (who were represented by, at the time, the Judge who made this decision).
"Generic findings about various private investigators that were held by the Courts in these parallel claims to have carried out unlawful activity at the very same time in relation to similar stories and well-known individuals have been wholly ignored.
"The fact that this Court has chosen to dismiss them represents an inconsistency which is hard to understand or reconcile with common sense, or the evidence heard in the courtroom itself.
"It is a complete and obvious whitewash, but sadly not altogether unexpected.
"However, the lengths to which the court has gone to exonerate the Mail is as shocking as it is totally unwarranted.
"When the court says there is not sufficient evidence of wrongdoing, despite the documents showing otherwise, then one does wonder how justice was ever going to be achieved.
"One need not look past when a private investigator the Mail used actually admitted on tape to having unlawfully blagged Baroness Lawrence, or when a journalist recorded the name of the private investigators she used to find out about highly sensitive medical information (that even the Mail was too worried to publish) or when another private investigator emailed one of the journalists with the actual British Airways seat number and ticketing details for a young girl simply visiting her boyfriend in return for payment.
"It feels here like one rule for the newspapers and another for the claimants. While the Claimants presented evidence, Mail journalists simply gave denials, and the Court chose uncritically to believe them, even in the face of inconsistencies, contradictions and blatant untruths that were obvious to neutral observers in Court when compared to the documents.
"We presented to the court evidence which we believed was compelling at the time and remains so now.
"We would like to thank our legal team for all their hard work and all the witnesses who were brave enough to come forward in the pursuit of justice."

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I wasn’t referring to the court case by the way which was always going to be risky for the reasons set out in this article:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/12/prince-harry-and-professional-liar-battle-daily-mail

I was referring to the rest of Harry’s visit. Imho, there has been a lot of talk and noise from the press and from people posting here, but in fact M&H have said very little themselves. Plus ça change. Criticising them has become a very lucrative mini-industry.

The prince and the ‘professional liar’: inside Harry’s battle against the Daily Mail

How the celebrity-backed legal action against one of Britain’s most powerful newspapers fell apart

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jul/12/prince-harry-and-professional-liar-battle-daily-mail

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 08:07

Justdancevance · Today 07:56

The last visit shows when the Sussex PR keeps quiet, they can move around quite safely. Harry needs to accept that,

Harry acknowledged himself years ago in the Netflix documentary that the hate and threat has largely moved on line. Unfortunately there are deranged people out there who read endless threads filled with nastiness about Meghan and decide to act. I think that is his genuine concern having seen his mother, and now his wife, go through the same thing. And the racist element is not something the rest of the RF have to confront.

sunflowersintheday · Today 08:10

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 08:07

Harry acknowledged himself years ago in the Netflix documentary that the hate and threat has largely moved on line. Unfortunately there are deranged people out there who read endless threads filled with nastiness about Meghan and decide to act. I think that is his genuine concern having seen his mother, and now his wife, go through the same thing. And the racist element is not something the rest of the RF have to confront.

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They are safe. The security services know more than him!
This is all about his royal status. He wants the pomp and ceremony of the motorcade and the blue flashing lights
He's the ultimate royal.

Justdancevance · Today 08:10

Ravec don’t agree, I’d trust them over a few interns at Harry’s private security firm.

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 08:13

sunflowersintheday · Today 07:50

I genuinely don't understand.
You support a republic?!
Yet you support Harry - who's entire life is about having royal privilege, without earning any of it?!
He's the ultimate royal. Arrogance, greedy, grasping. He expects the taxpayer to fund limitless security, because he is a Prince.
I'm genuinely flabbergasted! You're supporting the ultimate privileged royal!

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If you read the thread properly I have explained all of this below.

Justdancevance · Today 08:20

Let’s keep the discussion on topic ?

sunflowersintheday · Today 08:22

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 08:13

If you read the thread properly I have explained all of this below.

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No you haven't.
You support Harry because he's a Royal Prince.
He's just about the status, the wealth and the privilege. If that's your thing, fine. Not mine.

Arjan · Today 08:23

In no particular order in the past week …

Harry announced he was refused extra security. Harry announced he was trying to figure out his security options in the UK in the absence of Tax payer funded armed security.

Harry announced he was not staying at Buckingham Palace then announced he was staying at Buckingham Palace, then announced he was disappointed he would not be staying at Buckingham Palace.

Harry announced his whole itinerary to the media, Harry & Meghan announced they were both coming to the UK, then announced that his wife and kids might not come, then announced they would come but announced Meghan would not now be doing the events they announced to the media a few days previously.

They announced they were hoping they could meet with the King. They were obviously prevented from announcing anything about their meeting with the King & Queen (with his tail between his legs)

This was all alongside the statement accusing the judge of being biased in his judgement and another establishment whitewash / stitch up.

If thats viewed as QUIET, it just shows how prolific they are usually.

Justdancevance · Today 08:39

We also learned they have a what app group to brief journalists

We learned that they leaked the details of the meeting of Sussex and palace staff

We also saw Chris shit talking about police being called to help with crowds. Photos showed four people, so some journalists are still spinning their nonsenss

MrsFinkelstein · Today 08:44

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 06:09

William is spending his own money to end homelessness? Really? If anything he is probably spending the interest on one of his many investments at best. I’m sure he won’t be left out of pocket that’s for sure.

And for William to claim his intention is to end homelessness, however genuine and sincere, it is frankly incredibly overblown and naieve. As anyone who works in homelessness will tell you, homelessness has a large number of complex causes, many of which are political.

As for the rest, I happened to look at one episode of H&M’s Netflix documentary last night for the first time. (It was too hot to sleep and I was bored.) And honestly I don’t think any of us can understand what it is like to be constantly in the public eye.

What Meghan went through when she and Harry were first going out was horrific. She had paparazzi in four to six cars parked permanently outside her house in Toronto night and day.

The paps had paid some of her neighbours to install cameras trained on her garden. One of them tried to break in. Another tried to climb the walls and look in her bathroom. She had photographers trying to get on to the set of Suits. So much so that they had to cage off all of the trailers where the actors stayed during filming. This was recalled by the producer btw, not her, who said it became dangerous and unpleasant. Then Meghan received death threats and had to employ private security.

At the same time the tabloids in the UK were making their nasty, racist “straight out of Compton” remarks and printing photographs of Doria taking bed covers to the laundrette accompanied by horrible remarks saying they weren’t classy enough to join the royal family. There was that awful tweet by that radio host depicting H&M’s child as a chimpanzee. The blatant racism on show was disgusting and the actual newspapers and articles were shown, this wasn’t Meghan recounting it. The attacks were blatantly classist and racist.

They made an interesting point in the documentary that the British tabloid world is incredibly white and only something like 0.3 % journalists are from ethnic minorities which explains a lot but still doesn’t excuse their disgusting behaviour.

So even if you believe that H&M are over-estimating their need for security now, I can totally understand why. You can’t go through something like that and not let it leave a mark on you, And particularly for Harry who saw his mother go through something similar but without the added racist nastiness,

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Can you link to these paparazzi photos of Meghan and her home, and on set please.

Because the Chief of Police for Toronto said no such things happened.

But clearly, there must be photos that prove it did (the photos the paps took, and the photos the neighbours took of all of them hanging around).

MrsFinkelstein · Today 08:49

Arjan · Today 08:23

In no particular order in the past week …

Harry announced he was refused extra security. Harry announced he was trying to figure out his security options in the UK in the absence of Tax payer funded armed security.

Harry announced he was not staying at Buckingham Palace then announced he was staying at Buckingham Palace, then announced he was disappointed he would not be staying at Buckingham Palace.

Harry announced his whole itinerary to the media, Harry & Meghan announced they were both coming to the UK, then announced that his wife and kids might not come, then announced they would come but announced Meghan would not now be doing the events they announced to the media a few days previously.

They announced they were hoping they could meet with the King. They were obviously prevented from announcing anything about their meeting with the King & Queen (with his tail between his legs)

This was all alongside the statement accusing the judge of being biased in his judgement and another establishment whitewash / stitch up.

If thats viewed as QUIET, it just shows how prolific they are usually.

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Wasn't there also a story (from "sources close to Meghan") in her favoured outlet People for PR, that after the BP debacle she was done with the UK and would never return?

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MrsFinkelstein · Today 08:55

And just to add, that William is working with multiple agencies (social, justice and health) in his Homeless charity, his various public statements acknowledge that homelessness is caused by a variety of issues. That different areas of the UK may need different solutions and input and that he knows he can't eradicate it, but he hopes that he can help it become "rare, brief and unrepeated".

Seems he's well aware he can't end it, but he can and is doing something concrete to help. Doesn't appear naive to me.

noonames · Today 08:58

MrsFinkelstein · Today 08:44

Can you link to these paparazzi photos of Meghan and her home, and on set please.

Because the Chief of Police for Toronto said no such things happened.

But clearly, there must be photos that prove it did (the photos the paps took, and the photos the neighbours took of all of them hanging around).

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Please do come back about this and the other inaccuracies like the % non white journalists. Maybe also their use of footage from a Harry Potter premiere and a Katie Price court appearance to simulate paparazzi interest in them?

sunflowersintheday · Today 08:58

noonames · Today 08:58

Please do come back about this and the other inaccuracies like the % non white journalists. Maybe also their use of footage from a Harry Potter premiere and a Katie Price court appearance to simulate paparazzi interest in them?

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Indeed. So many false claims and fake footage.

jeffgoldblum · Today 09:18

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 05:38

Oh fhs. He did those things when he was twenty! He doesn’t do them now as a forty-one year old father of two.

By all accounts William had just as much a wild time as Harry but of course it was covered up much better because he was the heir.

I am sure lots of people do things in their twenties which they later regret and at least Harry has actually addressed his past sins publicly. But if you have the misfortune to be born royal then obsessive people with nothing better to do are still discussing them twenty years later!

How many times are you going to keep bringing them up? It’s a bit pathetic really.

The irony is that all of you who claim to support the monarchy are actually bringing it down by all of this endlessly negative on-line rhetoric and you can’t see it.

And the RF as a whole probably take a very dim view of people who hash over all the minute details of their lives endlessly and needlessly, as however divided they are among themselves, just like MPs, there is more cameraderie and understanding between all of them than there ever will be between them and us.

It’s us republicans who don’t give a toss about the institution who can actually be a bit more forgiving of the people trapped within it.

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YOU a republican are on here defending Harry with every breath in your body!!! 🤣🤣🤣
obviously you have no idea what republican means!

Justdancevance · Today 09:18

Perhaps the concerned poster can turn her attention now to invictus games, as I’m at a complete loss to understand how so much is spent while not providing accommodation or transport for competitors

46m spent at the last games, which was something like 125k per competitor, that would buy a house in many parts of the world.

Shouof the Invictus games be providing transport, security and accommodation for Meghan and the kids if they come?

jeffgoldblum · Today 09:21

Recklessismymiddlename · Today 06:20

@WoodchipAnnie56 im intrigued why as a republican, you support Harry and Meghan,

They love everything and more about being royal. They want the titles, the bells and whistles, the security, the prestige. They just don’t want to work for it. They wanted titles for their children.

They are not low key like the Edinburghs or Anne, who didn’t have royal titles for their DCs.

I’ve never had a proper answer from my republican mother and it really intrigues me.

I can’t understand why a proper republican supports them. I really can’t.

Im not a royalist btw! It just makes me so confused, that a republican, would not see through them and makes me sceptical. I seriously do wonder at times, if I’m debating with my mother on here, with some posters, especially as she thinks Diana was murdered!

edit: sceptical is the wrong word but too early in the morning to think of a better one and my morning medication hasn’t taken effect yet. Apologies

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Because she isn’t an actual republican!! , it’s just an excuse to slag off the royal family while defending Harry! 🤷‍♀️

jeffgoldblum · Today 09:23

WoodchipAnnie56 · Today 06:31

I don’t support them as such as I don’t know them. Nor do I approve of everything they have done. But on a basic human level I detest bullying. And I think they have come in for far more criticism than is warranted. Leaving and criticising the RF isn’t a crime. And the RF have hung Harry out to dry and protected AMW who has done far, far worse. Not good imho. It says a lot about the values of the institution.

And Harry didn’t do it wisely or well (although Spare I believe sold very well and even broke some publishing records) but at least he had the balls to speak out about some of the issues within the RF which institutionally is toxic the way the different offices brief against each other. I do believe that a lot of that is true. Even during this latest visit, quite a few respected journalists were saying they were receiving one set of briefings from William’s office and quite different ones from Charles,

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On a basic human level you detest bullying!!!
and you are defending Harry and Meghan!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

sunflowersintheday · Today 09:23

Justdancevance · Today 09:18

Perhaps the concerned poster can turn her attention now to invictus games, as I’m at a complete loss to understand how so much is spent while not providing accommodation or transport for competitors

46m spent at the last games, which was something like 125k per competitor, that would buy a house in many parts of the world.

Shouof the Invictus games be providing transport, security and accommodation for Meghan and the kids if they come?

It's absolutely shocking. Who pays the expenses for Harry and Meghan?

LifeIsTooShort247 · Today 09:23

MrsFinkelstein · Today 08:44

Can you link to these paparazzi photos of Meghan and her home, and on set please.

Because the Chief of Police for Toronto said no such things happened.

But clearly, there must be photos that prove it did (the photos the paps took, and the photos the neighbours took of all of them hanging around).

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If accuracy is the standard and as you're asking for photographic evidence it suggests it is then it's worth being equally accurate about what the Chief of Police actually said.

The claim that "the Chief of Police for Toronto said no such things happened" is not supported by his own statement.

The Chief said: "Toronto Police did respond to the street, routinely monitored it, deployed undercover vehicles and teams, and spoke to the paparazzi."

Those are acknowledgements that police responded, monitored the area, deployed undercover teams, and spoke to the paparazzi. His statement does not say that nothing happened, nor does it state that all reported incidents were fabricated. Those are conclusions that go beyond what he actually said.

Arjan · Today 10:05

In November 2016, Toronto police confirmed they had been called to Meghan’s home, who became a local fixture during the seven years she filmed the legal drama in the city.

“We were called at one point this month for the actions of some media,” Constable Victor Kwong told the Toronto Sunat the time.

Meghan embellishes everything !! …… One point / in one month, according to chief of police.

Meghan claimed they did nothing to ‘protect her,’ yet all the evidence seems to point to Meghan exaggerating on a big scale, it looks like the police did their duty but that wasn’t enough for Meghan, Meghan wanted the Toronto police to act as her personal bodyguard, it seems.