PR disasters - thread 19

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Can’t see a new thread and am pretty sure there is still lots to discuss !

That seems very close to breaking the embargo on the judgement.

ETA I think it would be the source breaking the embargo.

Can you link @OctopusFriend❤️

And every bit of this pressure is entirely brought on by himself. The ridiculous lawsuit, his behaviour at Sentable

Attempting a miss trial? Is that even possible now? 🤔

Yes it is all (or nearly all) his own doing.
But agree he must be under huge pressure. It’s an unenviable situation to be in.

It has also seemed likely, given the Daily Mail's recent articles on Max Mosley as linked by @MyAutumnCrow, that ANL would be the victors in the case.

I don't think there could be a mistrial - the judgement has already been handed down to the parties (we are just awaiting the publication).

People could still be liable for contempt of court.

Thanks 🙏

No, no mistrial, but whoever broke the embargo would be in trouble with the court and might have to explain themselves to the judge. Embarrassing.

Without wishing to sound like an evil villain…..I’m hoping it’s Harry ! 🤣

And it’s important to remember this episode:

‘Prince Harry ordered to reveal any payments to witnesses in case against Daily Mail
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‘Publisher suggests incentives offered by claimants to procure evidence include £5,000-a-month deal with private investigator’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/07/11/prince-harry-ordered-to-reveal-any-payments-daily-mail/

ARCHIVED: https://archive.ph/jdQEV

This article by Victoria Ward really goes into some dynamite revelations involving Harry, Doreen Lawrence et. al.

The judge certainly will have taken this evidence into account. It’s really worth a re-read.

No, if you were one of the sols/barristers the judge would dress you down but the verdict would not change.

About a weeks heads-up is certainly the most the J might give so could be accurate

I think he thrives on drama. If he loses, it's not his fault. An establishment stitch up (?) I see another BBC interview soon

Delicious timing - which PH has obviously known for some time.

H&M actually being in the UK, actually courting the UK media in order to flog UPFs and tat online when this is announced (with no doubt a flood of additional PH nonsense published) is just glorious no wonder he’s spun out.

I wonder if anyone has noted any twitching or manoeuvres from the other celeb complainants over the last few days?

I wonder when the next announcement for the Sentebale court case will come - maybe later in the year would be better - too much entertainment all at once might make me laugh myself sick!

It does seem there are rather a lot of chickens coming home to roost all at once 😬
Goodness knows what his mental state is at the moment.

IF he really has lost the ANL case that would explain his spiralling & frankly ridiculous behaviour re this trip…. I should think if this is the case he’ll be wanting to find a reason not to come to the UK in the immediate aftermath of the judgement’s publication….. that is pure speculation on my part obvs!

It took a full day for my confirmation email to arrive.

I feel so sorry for Dame Doreen Lawrence if they have lost the case. Harry persuaded her in an email to join the action claiming there was clear proof she'd been hacked, and it wasn't an easy decision for her, given the DM had been pivotal in bringing Stephen's killers to justice and she had a close rapport with Stephen Wright, the crime editor leading the DM's reporting. Wright said in court he was devastated by her joining the action and "to this day, I struggle to understand how she could be persuaded to take such a course of action". DDL, supported by Harry and the others, accused Wright of being performative to show that he'd helped a black family. He said in his statement, "The suggestion that I did not have true motives as a race campaigner was immensely hurtful, not only because of my career track record fighting racism, but also because of my personal circumstances [my wife, whom Lady Lawrence has met, is a woman of colour, as are our precious daughters]."

I mean, what the hell. DDL's head will be spinning if it's ruled no such hacking ever took place. And all because Harry sent that email telling her it was a sure thing.

I wonder if anyone has noted any twitching or manoeuvres from the other celeb complainants over the last few days?

No, but Hugh Grant, who is associated with Hacked Off, which funded the campaign to bring the case (using Max Mosley's money), is having meetings with Andy Burnham with the aim of bringing forward legislation to restrict the freedom of the press.

I am greatly hoping that Judge Nicklin makes some strong statements about press freedom in his judgement.

Oh they want so much more than Invictus for Archie.

They really are that deluded.

I did wonder if he, MM and kids were holed up at Sir Elton's south of France gaff when it was reported they were on holiday in Europe. Would make sense for them to be waiting for the verdict to come in together, if they know it's going to be this week...

She’s an adult, she’s sits in parliament, I think we can afford her the respect of making her own mistakes.

And narc rage.

Very strong narc rage, because, when your family is one of the most famous families in the world, you can't just block them on FB, forget about them and get on with your life.

You're reminded of them every time you log on to SM, visit the supermarket, switch on the news...

She said in her evidence while she wasn't happy with the five articles she's suing over when they were published, but she had no reason to suspect they had been sourced via hacking. She thought it was either police or CPS tip-offs, so she let them lie, because while not nice to read, those are bonafide means of reporters getting stories. She only joined the court action because she was emailed by Harry. So yes, while I agree we should afford her the respect of making mistakes, I do think she's been taken advantage of. Her turning on the DM was a huge boost for the defendants.

It could explain the hysteria from the Sussex camp this weekend - and attempting to pull KC (or his wallet) into the mess