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William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs

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SpaEnjoyer · 25/06/2026 16:24

I read this article in the DM which was originally brought to my attention by my MIL, who has a very keen interest in goings-on involving the RF.

'His absences have not gone unnoticed': Norman Baker asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up https://mol.im/a/15908021

I must admit I was surprised to learn that William has attended fewer events than KC and Anne over the last 3 years. I agree with the sentiment that he needs to step up to ease the burden on his father.

NORMAN BAKER asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up

He might be a present husband and father, but when it comes to carrying out royal duties, the Prince of Wales is 'workshy', a royal expert has claimed.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-15908021/His-absences-not-gone-unnoticed-NORMAN-BAKER-asks-workshy-William-going-step-reveals-number-engagements-carried-far-year-future-King.html

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sweatymessi · 25/06/2026 19:13

@Cheese55I wonder if they will still be hands on when they are all boarding 🙄

noonames · 25/06/2026 19:16

sweatymessi · 25/06/2026 19:05

Is there any evidence that he’s not?

Is there any evidence that he is? I’m cynical when it comes to Royal PR, imo if he was slaving away in other areas we would see lots of positive press to counteract those lazy stories.

That’s my point really, there’s not much evidence either way. So where does the lazy narrative come from - maybe people just dislike him for other reasons, or disagree with the idea of having a monarchy I guess.

I can imagine that the RF might be tempted to clap back but that kind of thing often backfires (cf the Sussexes’ attempts to control the media). I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought they were above that kind of thing, chasing popularity. Plus they don’t need to really, or not at the moment anyway, William is currently very popular and so is his wife.

OneBusyFinch · 25/06/2026 19:18

AbsoluteHoot · 25/06/2026 17:53

I’m always a bit confused by the claims that William is lazy - how does anyone know? If it’s just a comment on the number of engagements he does, that doesn’t make any sense, given that he also runs the Duchy of Cornwall and the Royal Foundation and has two or three other big long-term projects looking at homelessness and environmental issues.

Do you seriously think he’s ‘running’ these things? 😂

Agree. This is a great example of the spin that the royal PR machine relentlessly spits out. People ‘think’ they know what each royal thinks, what their beliefs and values are and will defend them on their behalf.

MarmaladeorJam · 25/06/2026 19:19

CraftyGin · 25/06/2026 16:45

William and Catherine's engagement involve a lot more background research and less visible help. They really can't be compared to Anne or the Kents.

Do you seriously believe that they are at a desk doing research?

Is it not more likely that others do the research and present them with a folder?

sweatymessi · 25/06/2026 19:21

I think the fact we have seen them getting cheap flights, stories about thrifty rewearing, how the dc have a normal upbringing etc prove the palace PR machine is in play & I very much think popularity is important to them.

Im not a Royalist but I did have some respect for the Queen & her dedication to duty & I believe she was a hard worker. I’ve being surprised how visible Charles has been despite his cancer & age. The younger bunch could disappear tomorrow and I don’t think many would even notice.

sweatymessi · 25/06/2026 19:22

OneBusyFinch · 25/06/2026 19:18

Agree. This is a great example of the spin that the royal PR machine relentlessly spits out. People ‘think’ they know what each royal thinks, what their beliefs and values are and will defend them on their behalf.

It’s baffling that some don’t even seem to realise there is a load of spin!

MarmaladeorJam · 25/06/2026 19:23

dottiedodah · 25/06/2026 16:49

Marmaladeorjam He is 44! 6 years off 50 .Only just had his birthday!

Even worse!

They always present as "just like us."

Raising a family and so on.

They dedicate themselves to their family, and do not work.

And, we pay for them to do that.

Nice life of you can get it!

sweatymessi · 25/06/2026 19:24

I think QE was onto something with the whole “you have to be seen”.

Andshesoffatatrot · 25/06/2026 19:25

MarmaladeorJam · 25/06/2026 16:35

His father had/has cancer and worked more than the man who did not have cancer...

Oh the Royal defenders are out, but he is workshy. He’s loaded and doesn’t see the need. He’ll see the need when the country turns on him

FlamingoFloss · 25/06/2026 19:27

FFS it’s the DM. Get a life. Totally unreasonable - you, not PW

APageInYourDiary · 25/06/2026 19:28

VanCleefArpels · 25/06/2026 16:32

These things always fail to take into account the private work done for things like Earthshot and managing the Duchy etc

😂😂 yep sure he spends weeks on that 🙄

IDasIX · 25/06/2026 19:28

CraftyGin · 25/06/2026 16:45

William and Catherine's engagement involve a lot more background research and less visible help. They really can't be compared to Anne or the Kents.

Do you think the pair of them are up to all hours in the library boning up on the finer details of wherever they are cutting a ribbon?

MarmaladeorJam · 25/06/2026 19:30

noonames · 25/06/2026 17:03

I’m always a bit confused by the claims that William is lazy - how does anyone know? If it’s just a comment on the number of engagements he does, that doesn’t make any sense, given that he also runs the Duchy of Cornwall and the Royal Foundation and has two or three other big long-term projects looking at homelessness and environmental issues. He has said (I think?) that he thinks this is more meaningful work than doing hundreds of appearances, and that’s the direction that he thinks the monarchy should pursue. We also know (I think?) that the RF thinks it’s important that he has time with his family, and there’s been plenty of criticism over the years of QE2 and Charles for not doing that (including from their own children). So it seems obvious to me that he wouldn’t be doing as many engagements as Anne, who does not have all this other stuff on her plate. So unless people have access to his diary or follow him around, how does anyone know how much work he’s doing?

Maybe you are right in all you say.

However, his "working behind the scenes" always reads as unconvincing to me.

He is child of privilege and as such, would not really know better.

I know many aristos whose money and land means they do not have to work. The money creates money.

There are many people in the world like this and as long as they pay their tax, it does not bother me.

In terms of the royal family, it does.

They presume way too much in my opinion.

TatianaTwinkletoes · 25/06/2026 19:30

Well I suppose if all engagements are equal in terms of time taken, distance travelled, knowledge and background needed, well a mere 57 engagements seems as though he's not trying very hard doesn't it? And bringing up 3 small children, dealing with seriously ill parent and wife, dealing with RF business, and dealing with the duchy of Cornwall is absolutely no excuse us it? Qualification and employment as a search and rescue pilot doesn't count either i guess, or spearheading the Earthshot prize, or the Homewards project either.
What's that saying, 'walk a mile in a man's shoes'...

IDasIX · 25/06/2026 19:31

Purpleandping · 25/06/2026 16:43

Surely public engagements aren't the only work they do. I don't know the answer but maybe he does more of the work on managing the estates or something.

I have colleagues who do more meetings than me, they don't do more work.

They have staff, that we pay for, to manage the estates.

They aren’t out lambing in the middle of the night, or poring over project plans for a new orangery. They don’t even clean their own loos and or make their own breakfast.

MarmaladeorJam · 25/06/2026 19:34

PrincessAnne5Eva · 25/06/2026 18:07

This is the craziest presenteeism. Engagements that required and expected the King would be pissed off if he sent his son instead. Anne loves to go to things. There are other types of work than showing up to cut ribbons and we know he’s busy running the duchy etc. Did they ever compare Top Trumps on royal engagements between ERII and Charles before he was king? Or is this just another way the press can play people like a fiddle and distract from real, fundamental issues with the way the country is run?

Subsidizing a royal family, using tax payers money to perpetuate a class system that often excludes most of the tax payers surely falls into " fundamental issues with the way the country is run..."

mahiki · 25/06/2026 19:37

I can’t wait to see the excuses for a low number of engagements when he actually becomes king. I wonder if the palace PR is preparing them now.

Bincollextion · 25/06/2026 19:41

As I’ve always maintained, the absolute worst thing the RF ever did was let H&M go. They’re the only ones that resonate with younger generations. The boomers will be gone soon and when that happens the RF will be gone too because they failed to modernise and connect with younger people. They put pride and jealousy over the family’s survival.

IMO William & his family are irrelevant to modern Britain. Their privileged lifestyle represents the past.

pilates · 25/06/2026 19:43

“As I’ve always maintained, the absolute worst thing the RF ever did was let H&M go.”

I needed a good laugh today 😆

IDasIX · 25/06/2026 19:45

It seems the thing they work hardest on is their own propaganda. And it’s working, because there’s lots of people on here that seem to think that they are not just figureheads for the causes they back, they are in fact working very hard on the strategy, budgets, implementation of these things!

They have multiple sets of staff doing everything for them: household staff, including nannies, who cook, clean, garden, and do most of the child-rearing; private secretaries, who take care of every detail of their official life including briefing them and writing their speeches; and the staff who actually do all the work at Earthshot, Homeward, early years project, etc.

As PPs have said, it’s been well known for years that they are bone idle. William is also said to be quite dim and disengaged with matters of state. There’s even speculation he can’t read very well!!

52inJan · 25/06/2026 19:48

IDasIX · 25/06/2026 19:45

It seems the thing they work hardest on is their own propaganda. And it’s working, because there’s lots of people on here that seem to think that they are not just figureheads for the causes they back, they are in fact working very hard on the strategy, budgets, implementation of these things!

They have multiple sets of staff doing everything for them: household staff, including nannies, who cook, clean, garden, and do most of the child-rearing; private secretaries, who take care of every detail of their official life including briefing them and writing their speeches; and the staff who actually do all the work at Earthshot, Homeward, early years project, etc.

As PPs have said, it’s been well known for years that they are bone idle. William is also said to be quite dim and disengaged with matters of state. There’s even speculation he can’t read very well!!

Thank you! I was going to ask, when we say "work"...what do we mean exactly?

NotTalkinBoutTheLinen · 25/06/2026 19:50

NormalAuntFanny · 25/06/2026 16:40

Sunshine Sachs I expect, bit of a strafe on everywhere

🤣

Can we get Blake Lively to chime in?

IDasIX · 25/06/2026 19:51

52inJan · 25/06/2026 19:48

Thank you! I was going to ask, when we say "work"...what do we mean exactly?

A member of staff dresses them, another hands them some briefing, another drives them to engagement, they cut the ribbon and give the speech someone wrote for them, they are taken back home again, a staff member brings them tea and toast, another helps them into their jammies, they kiss the kids goodnight after nanny has washed and put them to bed, then they fall asleep utterly exhausted from the extremely hard job they have.

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/06/2026 20:00

BridgetJonesV2 · 25/06/2026 18:17

I don't think it's a good optic if I'm honest. But then hopefully William and Catherine are tearing up the blueprint that was used to raise past royal children - and if they're raising George, Charlotte and Louis to be well rounded kids who don't turn out like Andrew or Harry, it's not a bad thing.

I am old enough to remember the huge fuss made when KC and Diana took William on a foreign tour with them, because it was so unusual. The idea that they would actually take their kid with them seemed foreign to everyone!

I read that the Queen said she regretted leaving her kids behind when she was doing tours, but did it because she was told that that's how it was done.

If he is doing fewer official duties to be a better parent then I see that as no bad thing. And I say that as a republican!

PyongyangKipperbang · 25/06/2026 20:02

IDasIX · 25/06/2026 19:51

A member of staff dresses them, another hands them some briefing, another drives them to engagement, they cut the ribbon and give the speech someone wrote for them, they are taken back home again, a staff member brings them tea and toast, another helps them into their jammies, they kiss the kids goodnight after nanny has washed and put them to bed, then they fall asleep utterly exhausted from the extremely hard job they have.

Edited

Pretty accurate description of the late Queens life, but I very much doubt that this is how it is now.

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