William denounced as "workshy" due to lack of royal engagements he performs

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I read this article in the DM which was originally brought to my attention by my MIL, who has a very keen interest in goings-on involving the RF.

'His absences have not gone unnoticed': Norman Baker asks when 'workshy William' is going to step up https://mol.im/a/15908021

I must admit I was surprised to learn that William has attended fewer events than KC and Anne over the last 3 years. I agree with the sentiment that he needs to step up to ease the burden on his father.

And a father who is 77

Who cares what Wanker Baker says or any other random for that matter and The Daily Mail talks shite anyway
The royals are out dated and should have died out with the queen.

Marmaladeorjam He is 44! 6 years off 50 .Only just had his birthday!

He’s a lazy bugger!

People always make excuses for him “but he’s got children” “but his wife’s had cancer” - so do plenty of other people but they have to crack on with far fewer privileges than he has.

Fair enough if he works 12 hour shifts that conflict with childcare hours and doesn’t have any support. Poor Will juggling personal care for Kate and parenting three kids, and doing all the housework and cooking, etc.

Kate’s been up and about for ages now anyway and the kids are all school age.

He’s a rich bloke with more than enough money to pay for a nanny and a cleaner. His job consists of writing letters, sitting in meetings, and cutting a few ribbons. There’s no reason why he can’t work full time and still have plenty of time to spend with his wife and kids.

It’s not like he’s going to be exhausted from a 12 hour shift down the mines, after which he’s got to do the big shop at Tesco and create and paint a junk model with Louis for his school project due in tomorrow, as well as sorting out Charlotte’s PE kit for tomorrow because she’s lost her shorts and getting mud stains out of George’s white socks - and he’s got to do that inbetween cooking dinner and cleaning the house.

Ahem - I believe you mean Norman Baker - a respected former number of the government who meticulously researches his excellent publications which take an independent view of the monarchy. His book ‘and what do you do?’ about the monarchy is excellent.

Does this mean H has lost the court case against ANL, I wonder?

If he has, he owes ££ millions.

His PR people need to check their June salaries & payments have arrived in their accounts.

I’m always a bit confused by the claims that William is lazy - how does anyone know? If it’s just a comment on the number of engagements he does, that doesn’t make any sense, given that he also runs the Duchy of Cornwall and the Royal Foundation and has two or three other big long-term projects looking at homelessness and environmental issues. He has said (I think?) that he thinks this is more meaningful work than doing hundreds of appearances, and that’s the direction that he thinks the monarchy should pursue. We also know (I think?) that the RF thinks it’s important that he has time with his family, and there’s been plenty of criticism over the years of QE2 and Charles for not doing that (including from their own children). So it seems obvious to me that he wouldn’t be doing as many engagements as Anne, who does not have all this other stuff on her plate. So unless people have access to his diary or follow him around, how does anyone know how much work he’s doing?

He’s a lazy bastard and wouldn’t know what a days work is. Mind you, nor do any of them.

Not sure the "but his wife had cancer" argument for why he did so little work holds up when Charles actually has cancer himself and did more

I thought Wills and Kate were lazy sods before her cancer. They have both had more time to recuperate/recover than anyone else would ever have and are still lazy sods.

They’ve both been workshy long before the cancer thing

I’m always a bit confused by the claims that William is lazy - how does anyone know? If it’s just a comment on the number of engagements he does, that doesn’t make any sense, given that he also runs the Duchy of Cornwall and the Royal Foundation and has two or three other big long-term projects looking at homelessness and environmental issues.

Do you seriously think he’s ‘running’ these things? 😂

And the few engagements they actually do, they lump them all together over a couple of days so the numbers look better.

This is the craziest presenteeism. Engagements that required and expected the King would be pissed off if he sent his son instead. Anne loves to go to things. There are other types of work than showing up to cut ribbons and we know he’s busy running the duchy etc. Did they ever compare Top Trumps on royal engagements between ERII and Charles before he was king? Or is this just another way the press can play people like a fiddle and distract from real, fundamental issues with the way the country is run?

I don't think it's a good optic if I'm honest. But then hopefully William and Catherine are tearing up the blueprint that was used to raise past royal children - and if they're raising George, Charlotte and Louis to be well rounded kids who don't turn out like Andrew or Harry, it's not a bad thing.

What have the two big projects on the environment & homelessness achieved? Same for Cs child years are important big long project, no shit!

I mean I don’t know for sure, that’s partly my point, but yes, I assume that the Duke of Cornwall has some involvement in running the Duchy of Cornwall. I guess it’s ultimately his responsibility. Obvs not full time since he also has the other stuff to do. Is there any evidence that he’s not?

duchy of Cornwall work isn’t included I believe and anything he is involved in personally eg earth shot isn’t either. The engagements are just the court circular ones

Well that’s a whole other kettle of fish. I think Earthshot has had some good wins iirc. I don’t know much about it tbh. But in any case I don’t think you can necessarily infer anything about how much work goes into a project by its effectiveness or lack of.

Didn’t he give up his actual job with the air ambulance to become a full time royal?

@noonamesin my experience of work you don’t have projects continuing for years if they create little awareness and are ineffective. 🤷🏻‍♀️

What the fuck did Harry do?!

Is there any evidence that he’s not?

Is there any evidence that he is? I’m cynical when it comes to Royal PR, imo if he was slaving away in other areas we would see lots of positive press to counteract those lazy stories.

I guess that’s an argument for the effectiveness of the royal projects as they’re still continuing, but as I say I don’t know much about them. Plenty of projects have an awful lot of work done on them and do not succeed though. HS2 springs to mind, it might get there in the end, but currently running 10 years late, nowhere near as extensive as planned but still expected to cost 2-3x the original budget.

I doubt either K or W do that much hands on with the children esp. as they are older and probably booked into learning polo or something. The business side is surely managed by employed staff because he wouldn't know the first thing about it.