PR disasters Thread 17

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Can’t see a new thread so thought I would start a new one to continue discussing the grifters

People magazine, their unofficial newsletter, is still reporting that they might becoming. Which makes me even more certain that it's just a kite flying story to gauge reaction first. If it was a done deal, People would be reporting it as fact.

But none of that is any reason to think that Charles will want Harry back as a working royal. He isn't needed and it would be a headache for everyone trying to manage him.

I agree.

People have been predicting Harry's imminent return to royal life pretty much since the day they left. And still Charles and the other senior royals studiously ignore them.

This reminded me of Billy Connelly and the Scone Shoes. ❤️

The only reason Harold will be back as he needs more money off Pa.

I think they will come. Hopefully have a private meeting with Charles. Possibly an icily civil meeting with wider family. Meghan will spend the next two years making coy references to being royal, afternoon tea etc.
When William is king he will cut them off. Or offer Harry a job as a gardener.
It irks me when Harry goes on about the children's heritage. Spare and much of his behaviour made totally clear that he has little understanding of his own heritage.

I very very much hope they are not welcomed back with open arms.
I would find that really hard to forgive after everything H&M said about the UK, the RF, and us-the people. They betrayed us all.
I don’t want them merching their titles (any more than they already have) -those titles are not ‘theirs’ They were given in the expectation of them working for UK.COM - not for making money. It’s time they were stripped of them all.
Obviously if The King wants to see his son &grandchildren in a totally private capacity -fine. Thats simply a get together of the Mountbatten-Windsors.
But they have been so heinous, so dreadful towards the Late Queen and Prince Philip when they were dying I do not see how forgiveness can be given, never mind the nasty cruel shit Harry wrote in his book about William, Catherine and Camilla.
It’s Prince Philip that got me the most. The man was dying, we all knew how terribly ill he was in the last picture when he left hospital to go home to die.
This was a brave man who had given up the job he adored in the navy to walk two steps behind his wife for the next 70 years.
He did his duty to his adopted country -and he worked hard . The WWF and the DoE award scheme didn’t just happen. He died knowing how awful Harry was behaving and that it would get worse. I don’t think he would ever have forgiven Harry for letting down his beloved Marines!
IF they come I really really hope that Queen Camilla does not leave them alone with the King for one minute.
Or, even better, that the King & Queen , like The Prince and Princess of Wales will be extremely busy that week.

Private meeting with Charles, yes, but meeting with wider family? William didn't even speak to Harry at their uncle's funeral – can't imagine he'd go out of his way to be available for a meeting now. And he will want to keep Kate as far as away from H and M as possible. H already blabbed to the BBC about the King's cancer being life-limiting, imagine what he'd say if they knew the details of Kate's illness.

I know I’m miles behind now because football, but I loved this:

“But inventory is where optimism collides with mathematics.“

William made a point of telling Amanda Holden and her colleague. Forgive me, I cannot think of his name that he makes sure Catherine has as little stress as possible

I could not be other than in favour of a man wanting to see his grandchildren , when his son has kept them away.

H&M being in photographs with the WRF to prop up their brand - I very much hope not and that the MIGS will be all over this.

H has criticised his family all ways round , and the UK , and he needs to live with this. He must know he and his wife are deeply unpopular so the lower key any visit the better. I do hope KC will restrict a family visit to a private , absolutely no photographs visit. If so M can hint all she likes as long as there are no photos . I think she is so disbelieved now it wouldn't actually matter.

Get them off the plane - to a private place in eg on the Sandringham estate or BP via a blacked out car - remove any recording devices and then let H do his Invictus stuff by himself or with his family , but the RF do not need to attend. He's the patron and nothing to do with them I would hope again the MIGS have picked up the concern about Invictus and won't let KC etc go anywhere near it.

Even if they got back in as working royals, it may not work. They will have to be second to William and c. They will get bored. They seem to tire of projects very quickly. They'd end up flouncing off again

Good point.

Jamie Theakston.

H&M being in photographs with the WRF to prop up their brand - I very much hope not and that the MIGS will be all over this.

I think Camilla would be too. She's seen her husband's reign as King completely dominated by the antics of her stepson and his wife and knowing how long Charles has waited to be King, she will be furious with H and M even before taking into account how vile he was to her in Spare.

I can imagine she'd stay with Charles while he met Harry and Meghan and kids to ensure no pictures are taken for the 'gram.

There’s quite a distance between ‘Harry might or might not bring his family over’ and ‘they’re coming back as working royals’ or getting half in half out. There’s no indication that any royals will turn up at the Invictus events and the reports make clear that Charles might not even see them. He didn’t when he was in USA recently. He last saw Harry for less than an hour nearly a year ago. Then there was no invitation to Peter’s wedding. The Australia trip will have gone down like a lead balloon. She used sick children and survivors of a terrorist atrocity to advertise her outfits! As will all these stupid attempts to put pressure on Charles via the press.

So I don’t think there’s any indication of a thaw, except in what passes as Harry’s mind. Maybe Charles will fit in a meeting but I’d be very surprised if any of the others do. And there’s no way that they’ll be working royals any time soon - they’re unpopular, greedy, entitled, a scandal in waiting. They have spent years slagging off and trying to undermine the institution, the UK, the Commonwealth, the king and queen and the heir to the throne, his wife and children. It would be a very poor move, especially when still trying to weather the storm from the other unpopular, greedy, entitled and scandal-ridden member of the family. This is all much more likely to be about trying to claim the press attention imo, which has been pretty royal centric and very positive over the last week or so with Trooping, Ascot, the garter thing and the announcement of George’s school.

Exactly. They just want this.

Lambrook School breaks up on 4th July. Not sure when Harry +/- M & children would be arriving but almost certainly after the Wales have headed off for the holidays. I would expect them to be straight back to Anmer Hall and happily well out of the way when any visitors arrive. Not sure when Charles heads up to Balmoral. If there's a meeting it will be for tea at Clarence House like last year and that will be it.

what does a "year to Ingriftus" actually involve? Is it looking for funding??

My take is that they will get back into a role because they are a laughingstock / broke / have run out of road commercially etc….

They will take up the roles with gusto - all in - not HIHO - but MM will have planned already to divorce PH and will act up the royal role and then flee back to US after a few years to try again making money.

This is what she did first time round - she arrived with her agents, lawyers, etc all in tow.

Fool me one shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. MM will screw over the RF and dump PH back in the UK once she has secured enough royal adjacency glow to monetise ALONE in the US. She is always the one OW etc are after - the dirt on the RF from an American.

True. And they are probably toasting the success of their tactic and all the column inches it’s brought them. Too stupid to realise that it’s a flash in the pan that doesn’t matter in the least to the RF, who have no need to compete for clicks. I don’t think Meghan will want to come, I’d be surprised if she does tbh. She didn’t exactly hang around at the last Invictus, and there’s even less to see this time, what else will she have to do? I can’t imagine the family will be queuing up to see her or meet the children. Maybe she can hang out with the Yorks I guess 😬

I think this is a) reclaim press coverage and/or b) put pressure on Charles to see Harry, whom he seems to have been dodging for nearly a year and/or c) RAVEC is about to say no and this is setting up ‘sorry everyone, I know you would all love to see us, including my father who is begging us to reconcile, and my brother who is desperate for my support, but we can’t, it’s not safe’.

Apparently old footage from the Buckingham Palace balcony at the Trooping the Colour in 2019, when Harry twice told Meghan to turn around, and she looked less than pleased has been clipped, so they are not in the film any more. I think the clipping has been done to remove Andrew, and serendipitously this also removes H&M so I doubt this has anything to do with them.
Anyway, the original version, showing the last time Harry stood up to his wife is still easily found on the internet, which is forever as we all know.

https://x.com/RVealingthenarc/status/2067303464112407034?s=20

Oh lord, you could be right

Balmoral is usually early August. Unfortunately, Invictus date is just before the Wimbledon final weekend, and PW and Catherine usually attend, in recent years with one or both of George or Charlotte. How much do you want to bet that MM is angling for a women's final invite to rain on her SIL's parade?

I doubt it very much, there is no way Meghan will have to walk behind and have to defer to Catherine for 5 minutes, let alone years, that’s why they flounced in the first place.

She won't get an invite into the Royal box. Not a chance.