PR Disasters Chapter 15

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The saga continues

Mm describes herself as the most bullied person for 10 years too! , I wouldn’t put much faith in any of her utterances.

That's a fair point. I'm still going to avoid speculating about the characters of celebrity children but I can see the logic behind your thinking. All the more reason to keep children off social media.

But the parents chose to put the photos out there for a reason. And it's not because there was any expectation of seeing birthday photos of the California based 7th in line.

They want us to discuss their family. They want us to talk about the children. And while I have no opinions about the childrens' personalities, and frankly don't much care either, I do think we can draw conclusions about their parents from the photos they choose to share. A pretty consistent pattern has emerged over the past year or so as to the different ways they present each of their children, and they have made it plain for the world to see.

Plus M&H have publicly spoken about their daughters blue blue eyes, golden hair and her being a fire cracker, they have actively encouraged speculation about their children, L specifically.

Fair points, @StrawberryWaspand @IcedPurple.They are definitely putting their child in the public domain and they are inviting comments and, as happens, judgement.
I think this is why it's a terrible mistake and they seem to want to have the publicity, money and status, but not the criticism.
There is no need for any issued pictures of Lilibet.

They have indeed.
That's another fair point.

Peter Phillips’ wedding tomorrow so we can expect photos / pap walk/ announcement from Montecito.
Reports that Harry is furious not to be invited -and blaming William -,have not been denied .

Agree @StrawberryWasp

I also don't get why she is always underdressed. MM and H are in long sleeve clothing and H has Jeans on yet L is dressed for a summers day. I guess it is to create content.

@RecoIIectionsMayVary
I always think this: even when Archie is included he's usually in jeans and a long sleeved top, possibly a jacket, but L is always in flimsy sun dresses or cheap-looking leggings and t-shirt, barefoot, hair unbrushed.
There's often a mismatch between what she's wearing and what the rest of them wear.
I think Harry looks awful in that particular photo - pasty, scruffy and a bit out of it. Despite his cattiness about his brother's hair loss, at least William looks clean and we have already established that he smells nice 🙂

Would (Charles) have any choice but to know they are behind it if that’s what he’s being told in intelligence briefings and by his eldest son?

We might as well say the late Queen would have had no choice but to know about Andrew, @YouputthetwatinKathleen

It's surely obvious by now that both of them "know" what they want to, and that anything which doesn't suit is dismissed and then any consequences hidden or blamed on others

Yes I agree with that. By imagining they do not know we are excusing their lack of actions .

KC is head of state- we saw from his America visit that he is very capable and aware. It is ageism to assume he doesn't understand technology.

Agree.

The pictures are 'curated' in the same way as the As ever pictures.

'they seem to want to have the publicity, money and status, but not the criticism'

Which is the general pattern with the Sussexes, as evidenced by clap-backs and court cases.

I think Lili looked gorgeous in the red dress and red hair tie in the closet photo - maybe it’s because I am also a red head and was never allowed to wear red as a child. Think it’s the only time she has been presented wear colour - except maybe on her first birthday - the close up photo her parents issued to the worlds media (during QE2 Jubilee) - she was in blue - probs to reflect her blue blue eyes. Story was they wanted a photo of QE2 and Lili together even then to rinse for cash.

not sure if posted
but Fortnums scone recipe

www.fortnumandmason.com/stories/scones-made-in-piccadilly

Agree with both of you, with the reservation that just because we haven't seen actions publicly doesn't mean there haven't been any.

it’s interesting to me that there’s been no leaks about the outcome of Harry’s risk assessment review. It must have concluded by now surely, it’s been 7-8 months since it was announced?

obviously I wouldn’t expect there to be anything leaked by the government but I’d have thought - positive or negative - we’d have heard something from Harry. Either in a vindicated, “see I was right all along, now I’m finally getting the protection I need” way, or in another “my dad has interfered, the establishment wants me harmed” way.

On balance, I’m more inclined to believe that silence means it hasn’t gone his way. Perhaps the RA showed that his risk level has dropped even further than it was before and even Harry doesn’t want to admit that publicly.

They look lovely.

For anyone baking for someone who needs to be gluten-free, I have made these and they work well (have also made her cheese scones).

Becky Excell scones

If you don't need the extra tips use the 'Jump to recipe' button just below the heading - the website is horrible but the recipes are good.

I agree Meghan wants us to discuss her family. I also think she deliberately posts inconsistent photos, or photos completely out of any chronology that may or may not be her actual children (their size and height varies widely from photo to photo).

This could be to safeguard her actual children’s privacy (though if so, I side-eye using other people’s children to garner goodwill for yourself and your commercial brand while pretending they are your own, not to mention essentially practising a deceit on her fans) or just to stir up controversy.

The complete whacko-stans remind me of the more extreme fandoms around K-Pop and other pop stars. These 'stars' are constructions, just as H&M have become, and the stans perceive that their idols are inviting what Chappell Roan called the 'many nonconsensual physical and social interactions' that they carry out, including the harassment of their families, friends and other fans/not fans on social media.

It's all about what one K-Pop singer described as 'spreading falsehoods about us and our loved ones for clout and attention'. The 'principals' become props in the stans' inter-necine wars.

Male, female, young, old. There's a lot of people out there with a screw loose, looking for relevance and a little bit of self-aggrandisement on the tough platform of social media.

M&H are playing with fire. The whole Sussex/Wales saga is running far too hot at the moment in general. Just look at the furore last night around Nancy Sidley and Meghan's Mole. Look at some of the YouTube comments. The Sidley Twins both seem to be cracking up and frankly need to take a very long break from the internet. So do M&H. Harry's heading for a world of pain.

The spotlight's going to be on the Yorks and the other 'hangers on' for a while, thanks to the Crown Estates NAO 'watchdog' report. But none of them look good. I suppose the one powerful fact about the Wales family, though, is that they are the only ones who are not 'hangers on' - they are the direct line of succession. I think the rest of them are really in trouble now.

@bluegreygreen i use a lot of Becky recipes as I’m gluten free. Her mini Easter eggs cheesecake is to die for.

I’m off to Fortnums for tea in a couple of weeks, as was a birthday gift, so was just checking their menus and saw their recipe and thought was quite apt!

Just look at the furore last night around Nancy Sidley and Meghan's Mole. Look at some of the YouTube comments. The Sidley Twins both seem to be cracking up and frankly need to take a very long break from the internet.

I haven't been following this could you say what's going on?

From recent photos it’s an apt description; around here the foxes are often mangy, scruffy and malodorous.

On balance, I’m more inclined to believe that silence means it hasn’t gone his way. Perhaps the RA showed that his risk level has dropped even further than it was before and even Harry doesn’t want to admit that publicly.

@elessar, I think the sight of Meghan on that roundabout in Geneva where people were queuing for a bus over the road said it all.

I'd like to think that they received some patronising 'words of advice' and were offered some 'reflective practice' around keeping their children out of their commercial and marketing online activities, and were advised not to use them to spark the interest of their unhinged fandom. And perhaps advised not to pay the latter in money or goods, or to flatter them with attention. (M&H of course have done the opposite, because it's in their nature.)

I just want to say that my ire towards H&M for exploiting their children on social media, extends to all the parents who do this.

All parents who are mining their children's childhoods for content, using their children to build a brand and to promote themselves.

I think there should be widespread condemnation and shame heaped on these people.

And I find the doing it but hiding their face crowd the most offensive because they pretend they are protecting their children whilst at the same time continuing to exploit them. It's false virtue signalling while you continue to be a shit selfish parent.

I actually find those who just post the kids without the pretense of shielding them at least most honest in what they're doing. They are declaring: yes this is our kids lives and we think it's fine to share it with the world.

They are wrong, it's not fine it's dark exploitation of your own children.

But at least it's clear what they are doing.