PR Disasters, chapter 13

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Meg and Harry and all their PR shenanigans

Trigger Warning: this thread may contain talk about sleeves.

I think you are mixing up privacy breaches in the data protection sense, with misuse of private information: in the sense of publishing a private communication that the writer (and copyright holder) can reasonably expect to remain private, and that contains identifying information about them.

It was public in St George's Chapel. The receptions were supposed to be private.
Some hope.

The point is that they will use anyone and anything for personal publicity. They are desperate for clicks.
All this for an 8 year anniversary?!
No, I don't buy it.

TBH the gripe for me is that once upon a time you could sign stuff like this (cards, Skyflyer logbooks etc) with a reasonable expectation that the document with your scruffy signature on it wasn't going to be used to prop up a commercial venture or put on public display.

I genuinely wonder what this crew think about images of their best wishes being plastered all over the DM within 48 hours of them signing the card?

It's just so crass and cringe to post the card.

It's a meaningless bit of corporate schoomze, but she's presenting it as something special.

Imagine if Catherine got given a card on a plane. She's never post about it! And if she ever were to refer to it, it would be to highlight the thoughtfulness of others not to advertise how popular she is! But then Catherine will get cards from friends and family so doesn't have to pretend a corporate card is special.

It's just so embarrassing. It's like a awkward teenager believing and bragging that the girl who let her sit next to her at lunch is now her best friend.

M has mentioned that she couldn't make friends at school so had to join clubs, I think this small episode illustrates that dynamic.

I do agree with this - apparently H&M asked for people to have their phones taken away so that the reception could be private. Now I don't disagree with that at all. It does look like , though , when they need a bit of Royal stardust , they're happy to release pictures. I'm not talking about anything legal here just how they are using photos for their own ends , when it suits them. & yes an 8th year anniversary - maybe that is important to them. Maybe it's because they've had a bit of bad PR recently. Who knows. But I think their problem is , they've got themselves into a situation where their PR has been so bad unfortunately people are inclined not to take their word for things. Not hating them, just a bit more "Oh what are they doing now FFS" . That will take some coming back from. Sophie (DoE) made some missteps early doors ( fake sheik / trying to use the RF for her PR firm) and it's taken her the best part of 20 years to recover her reputation. (I do BTW think she now does a good job without being in the main WRF spotlight) . These things are hard to recover from. Which is why I hope the rumours of H&M being welcomed back into the RF (Other than privately as son , grandchildren , no publicity , no photos , just a family reconciling which I am in favour of ) are just that.

I guess their wedding photos are theirs to do what they want with, keep them private or not. But you would think they should be more considerate in publicly sharing the images of children, given she's just made a bloody speech about it!

And some of those children received a lot of SM media attention because of their part in this wedding: particularly Charlotte, and the twin boys. Partly because of M's failed relationships with their parents!

Surely any thinking adult would consider that beyond being shown in the wedding ton the day, they should be protected from further unnecessary SM speculation, gossip and opinions which will arise from putting them out there again 8 years later.

Have those children consented to be on SM 8 years later?

It's unbelieve how tone deaf she is. Speech one day, do the opposite next.

just a family reconciling which I am in favour of ) are just that.

The only possible family reconciliation will be with Charles, none of the Wales family will have anything to do with them ever again, and where The Wales family lead, others will follow, no way will Harry and Meghan ever be having weekends with Tindalls, lunching with the Phillips etc. Any reconciliation with Charles will also have to be private and not exploited for commercial gain, and we all know full well that Harry and Meghan just can’t do that so it’s stalemate.

Yes, it's very tricky for the employees involved. They have a high profile influencer on board who is a VIP (whether we agree with that or not),with a reputation for violating anyone's privacy to further her own interests. You feel put on the spot and compelled to sign because of her status. Not everyone is quick witted or balsy enough to put down a false name. If it's published, there's enough there about you for someone to start giving you the third degree. BA crew already clearly feel uncomfortable at being outed in image form on social media, hence the new warning to passengers. This is one more angle to that need for privacy within their workplace.

That would be absolutely impossible for a several reasons. Firstly, everything they do is transactional. It's all about what's in it for them.
Secondly, they have sold the family's privacy and violated it in the most appalling way. All for money.
Thirdly, those awful lies about the RF being racist. Unforgivable.

Yes, I mentioned upthread that those boys will be mid teens now. There's every chance they are getting teased by peers and asked about what happened to end the friendship between their mum and MM - an allegedly spurious racism accusation, which makes things worse again. Whatever the legalities of the matter and who owns the pictures, the wider picture of potential harm and embarrassment is being ignored by the very person preaching about the online bullying of children.

So long as she hadn't pulled a sickie whilst nursing a hangover she should be good. She's a world wide icon now.

Agree. Obviously she didn't ask the parents for consent as she's no contact with them. Yes it was a public event but now we have AI everywhere and generative AI can manipulate the images of kids/anyone and even create porn with them. Considering their reach of millions, and their online safety stance, it's ridiculous!

H and M actually have a very poor understanding of online safety and think they can pressure tech companies to both fully fix the issue and suddenly have a conscience.

But she may not want that though , not everyone wants to be famous!

I feel most sorry for Richie Rich, he’s clearly on his uppers and had to get a job, two jobs in fact go keep going

I’m surprised that no-one in the Meghan camp is demanding that the people who didn’t use their real names be admonished for the lack of respect

😂

I wouldn't want to be a world wide icon, that would not be good for me.

Too late! You already are ! 😉

Can I just again lament the lack of the Laughing Reaction emoji. I don't wantt to keep reposting posts just to laugh but believe me, so many of you make me LOL on here every day!!

Thanks for the laughs😂💕😂

Wait for it…the inevitable ‘a source close to the Sussexes’ will have something to say, no doubt.

ETA stuff to make a more or less coherent sentence.

Reconciliation with Charles cannot happen. H has no interest if it's not transactional whereby he and his horrible wife will only do it if there's a photo op for the kids with king papa or whatever they call him. And I wonder does KC really give a shit?

& his groin laden dancing, live & in photos

There’s speculation on X about the veracity of signatures as - apparently- all the “y” s are the same . I haven’t studied the card so don’t know if there’s any truth in the theory.

So meta @LipglossAndLies

You're right. Charles is a bit soft and sentimental, but he's no fool. He's been determined to do a good job and he won't want it wrecked by that greedy, mendacious pair.