Footage of Charlotte

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Does anyone else feel really uncomfortable about the photos the RF have put out of Charlotte today? Likewise the photo of them all lying in the sand. I feel those photos should be personal . She’s only 11, on holiday and those moments should be private.

That’s all very interesting, but I’m not sure how these examples of women not being able to inherit are relevant here. Anne was second in line and would have been Queen in the right circumstances. You’re saying she was second in line but not the spare? There wasn’t a spare even though there was a second in line who would have become monarch?

So in the Wales family, Charlotte is next in line after George but Louis is the spare, because in some other families women can’t inherit, even though in this one they do? This is quite an odd bit of logic.

Yet actually the two longest reigning British Monarchs were women so no spare son needed!
Queen Elizabeth II - 70 years, 214 days
Queen Victoria - 63 years, 219 days

In any case Britain no longer needs spare boys since the Perth Agreement 2011 - when William ascends the throne Charlotte is #2 in LoS.

Yes - I haven’t even seen it in detail - with all due respect I can imagine she was hugging an older lady with a blue rinse - I’m sure the officers had their guns at the ready to take her out if need be - as long as someone let her bingo mates know she wouldn’t be there later on 😂

I think Charlotte was rather pleased with herself 😍

Wonderful. A tearful fan and a confused child, all caught on camera for the world to see. The woman asked and without hesitation Charlotte moved towards her. The hug was brief. Charlotte was in no danger. The protection officer's job is to keep the royals from danger, not to be offensive to the well-meaning elderly.

Only by people with little understanding of children, safeguarding children, weirdos who think they’re owed by the Royals, or creepy perverts.

Yay. Queens rule!

Indeed and let’s not forget for some of these elderly people they have watched these children be born and grow up , whether it’s right or wrong, they feel they know them and have genuine love for them!
I hate to say it but many of them may not have grandchildren of their own.

I would not like to face some of the challenges that William and Catherine face having to negotiate the teenage years of their children in the social media age. George is off to secondary 13-18 school where everyone will have the latest i-phones....

Hopefully William's influence will remain strong as - on the whole - William seems to have a very loyal friendship group and there seem to be few leaks from his circle.

Harry on the other hand seemed to have a lot of loose lipped partying/drinking buddies. It didn't help that he used to get involved in drunken brawls (where his RPOs had to restrain him!) outside clubs in central London.

good dodge

thank you @IckyIck hallelujah - yes historically the term spare is all about second son! I knew it

Exactly.

Personally, I think adoration of the royals is totally nonsensical and that those who indulge in it are soft in the head, but it's almost always perfectly innocent.

Ah yes. The man.

😂😂 the women was 45 - it looked prearranged to me - the crowd look monitored like they’ve been screened already

she Knew she was going to hug her before she approached her as she gave her things to protection officer

all very harmless - she was getting a bit of confidence

im sure k and w would have used it as a spring board for a conversation with her about personal space if they wanted to

Creepy perverts and weirdos tend not to operate in full view of press photographers and armed security people. Blowing my own trumpet, I am a parent and safeguarding trained for working with children and vulnerabile adults. Once, I allowed my 4-year old DD to be given a lift 250 yards on a rural road in a van by a 30-something man who was a total stranger because his tyres were holding the icy downwards hill and my tyres wasn't.

Safeguarding isn't always about eliminating risk. Sometimes It's about balancing risk - in this royal case, snubbed member of the public (high probability) v. sexual pervert attracted to children (very low probability), or in the case of me and my DD, collision in motor vehicle and injured child (very high probability) v. sexual predator attracted to children (v. low probability).

The women was a super fan - in a wheelchair and known to Charlotte - Same lady as gave her the pink flamingos when she was 4 - she goes every year to see the royals

the security would have recognised her

The “Kensington System” that was used on Princess Victoria by her mother and her mother’s aide Sir John Conroy kept her in seclusion in Kensington Palace and largely hidden from the public. Victoria hated it and unsurprisingly she completely rejected their control the moment she became Queen aged 18 and a couple of weeks.

Why anyone thinks thats a good example to follow in the modern world is hard to see.

Gosh is this hideous photo from “it’s a knock out”???

Safeguarding is an exercise in risk management. You assess whether you can keep the children/your protected subject safe. Do you really think the royal
protection service just lets them go up to members of the public without having a handle on the probabilities of risk, and without a plan of handling a risk should it arise? Risk management is also about not scaring the living daylights out of children/your protectee and making them incapable of being in a public space without feeling fear. The whole point is that you manage the risk and put in place processes and safeguards to allow your protected person a normal experience. A normal experience for a royal is meeting and greeting members of the public. Whilst I think asking for a hug is a bit off, the risk involved in it happening, in full view of the world’s media, the child’s parents and royal protection officers, is likely extremely low. Your child is probably at greater risk standing in a playground full
of other children’s parents on any given day.

As explained upthread, they were at a fancy dress party. Royal It’s a knock out happened 1987, before Beatrice and Eugenie were born.

It was a joke…

They’d hugged before…she knew them

It didn’t land…

I’m not surprised

And If the protection officers knew that/knew who she was/knew she’d be there/ knew what she was about, they would have assessed the risk accordingly. If not, then she was just another punter in the crowd they would have factored into their risk assessment, and the risk would still probably have been low, otherwise they wouldn’t be on a walkabout.