Footage of Charlotte

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Does anyone else feel really uncomfortable about the photos the RF have put out of Charlotte today? Likewise the photo of them all lying in the sand. I feel those photos should be personal . She’s only 11, on holiday and those moments should be private.

Could be!! Or perhaps just another attempt at a thread to criticise W and C.

I just feel that it’s a classic move to ignore the difference between cynically using children to sell tat and sensibly preparing children for public life.

I agree. This narrative of young girls having to cover up because of perverted men is so poisonous and needs to be stamped out. And it's interesting that the concern is only about Charlotte, despite plenty of peadophiles targeting boys. But you never see anyone saying young boys should go around covered up.

I think we are in the unfortunate era of hugging, and I don’t mean just royals, celebs or whatever, in everyday human interactions everyone seems to lunge in for the hug, it seems to have become a social norm now, personally I don’t like it at all unless I genuinely am close to that person, bring back the good old handshake and stay out of my personal space!

Can we please not add to the OP’s disturbing comment? I’m sure anyone normal doesn’t compute the image as anything other than “kid out playing”.

As I pp, it was considered good to have 2 sons. The 2nd son was the spare not the second child.

A few titles are passed to the first male child. If there was no male heir, the title would be lost.

An example could be Downton Abbey. Mary and her sister could not inherit, so was to marry her cousin, the heir. He died...

I think the 9th Duke of Devonshire had 2 sons, the eldest was killed in the war. The spare inherited.
The 10th Duke's first son died in infancy, the spare inherited.

Princess Diana's brother was the 2nd son (the first died within hours of his birth) he inherited.

King Edward VIII abdicated, the next in line (the Spare) became king.

The Countess of Derby's father's title was inherited by a 4th cousin.

Not to mention bleating about privacy and lying about the amount of access the British media have to you and your children in any event, whilst sharing more about your own lives than the media would ever know or get away with publishing.

I agree on both counts, recognising my liability for the first count.

Whilst not naïve about sexual assault on children, I do feel for men who now have to question themselves over interactions with their daughters which were once considered perfectly normal.

As said I think the first few rows were select

I don’t see the harm

Yes, stranger-hugging, an era ushered into British royal interaction by one Meghan Markle.

But you never know what might happen - especially Charles and Andrew had their share of almost fatal accidents - things were not kept as "safe" for them as the younger royals

Charles had a series of polo accidents that involved spinal and traumatic head injuries, and/or surgery in fact he credits a police officer for saving his life in one when he was knocked unconscious with an obstructed airway. Then he crashed a plane on the island of Islay. He was hit by a bus when cycling at Cambridge and narrowly avoided being killed in an avalanche that killed his skiing partner.

Then in the early 1980s it was thought that AMW would be killed in the Falkland War - he flew "decoy missions" to lure missiles away from British ships and was involved in rescue missions under fire to lift survivors of burning ships.

They weren’t complete strangers - they were there to see the family - there was a process to it - I’m here to see you - here I am - oh hello

you are imagining it is the same as walking up to a complete stranger in the street - omg the queen took flowers from a complete stranger today 😦

Yes, you just don't know .

Yes and I’m wondering that the others think there is something to it

I can see the adoption of it

This is the second MN discussion on this. It's a fuss about nothing. The hug happened in full view of countless adults, including Royal protection officers. Charlotte didn't look in the least discomforted. Her mother was two paces away. It's an aspect of the job they are learning early, which is sensible.

Just like Harry knew he'd never be King!

Harry hasn't been top 3 in the LoS since he was 28 - he could have done anything with his life. He could have used Princess Anne as a role model - she didn't sit around whining about sausages and the hardships of being royal.

I imagine had those hugs and gifts been rebuffed, we would have had threads of outrage about that too! 🤷‍♀️

No problem, Ida. I just think I don’t want to give that awful comment any headspace by trying to see what she’s seeing, because it’s warped.

They were strangers, they didn’t know them.

I wish people didn’t put any photos or videos of their kids online/out to the public, and didn’t use and exploit, them but they do. I feel sorry for any child that has parents willing to do that. Not my kids though so nothing I can do.

Yes - awful, cold hearted RF, don’t they know they work for the taxpayers, Meghan was right, blah, blah, blah.

Doubtless.

This is rather absurd. What methodology should a responsible parent use (not a careless reprobate parent like me) to determine whether the degree of acquaintanceship is sufficient for a hug to be permissable? Degree of acquaintaceship isn't necessarily a good guide either, as I realised when DD indicated very subtly she wad unwilling to sleep overnight at the house of a female friend of mine she had known all her life. There is also the real risk of communicating anxiety to the child if the parent discoursges a hug from a well- meaning person.

Not from me at least. I thought it was far too much. People asking for hugs from children they don’t know is really fucking weird. The security should have said no.

Exactly what I was thinking @Indianrollerbird! I would add that instead of being labelled a creepy old man , it would have been…poor old pensioner waiting hours in the cold , completely snubbed and embarrassed by the aloof cold W and C , what harm would it have done to allow him this little thing when there was security and their parents there? , afterall we pay for them and this is their job.