Harry and Meghan's Australian jaunt -part 3 it's nearly over!

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Continuation ....

Whether they filmed it for fun or with the intention of releasing it one day - Harry is also culpable, he joined in.

Just like he could have insisted the curtsy was cut from the final edit - he must have known that’s not how she did it at the time and that it was a bad joke that wouldn’t go down well. As far as they knew at the time the Queen was alive and expected to still be alive when the Netflix show aired. Does he just roll over and go along with whatever she wants to do, a passive companion on Meghan’s journey to fame and fortune? 🤷‍♀️

It would seem so. He really has no sense.

I think H had shown us all what a nasty bollix he is. Particularly nasty towards women. His sister in law, mother in law. Dragging his ex girlfriend (Chelsea) into his ongoing lawsuit with DM. Slagging off a school staff member's looks in his horrible book.....etc

What wedding outfits are we talking about? MM wedding dress? I thought that the first was was demure (if poorly tailored) whilst the evening halter neck one was fab (think Stella McC?).

What has he done to his MIL?

"nasty bollix" 😂

Only employed on a zero hours contract to derail during the Royal Tour.

My apologies, I meant step mother 😊

Yes it was the fit of the Givenchy wedding and bridesmaids' dresses I was thinking of, DirtyGertyy
Absolutely no high end house of couture would normally let their creations leave the place like that, which is why I always wondered what really happened - except of course we'll never hear it from them

And yes the evening one was Stella McCartney. I'm not a fan of halternecks personally but that's just an individual thing and for its style Meghan looked good enough in it

The wedding dress had the right basic idea, in that simple, modern looks suit Meghan best. But the heavy fabric was a poor choice, and the fit was shocking for a custom couture gown for a royal bride. A perfect fit was especially important with such a simple design, as there was nothing to distract the eye. That of course is what you'd expect from bespoke Givenchy, but for some reason the end result looked unfinished and sloppy.

The Stella McCartney reception dress was great, one of my favourite things that Meghan has ever worn. But again, the fit was off. The dress was designed to be sleek and fitted, but was baggy and loose.

Good dresses ruined by poor tailoring and styling choices have been a bit of a hallmark of Meghan's style ever since.

I assume she had some last minute weight loss - I don’t think it really affected the McCartney gown - she looked fantastic in that.

But I don’t understand how a major fashion house wasn’t able to do a last minute fitting and correction for the main gown.

It was going to be seen by millions of people - they could have had a team working all night.

Also someone should have realized the fabric was going to bunch up and crease in the car ride.

I think it did affect the McCartney gown. Stella released the sketches of the dress and it was clearly designed to be much more fitted. Princess Sofia of Sweden wore the same dress in forest green and you can really see how it was meant to look. I agree that Meghan still looked great but the fit was definitely off.

I assume she had some last minute weight loss

It would have to have been quite considerable weight loss since both dresses were about a size too big. And yes, as you say, a top couture house should be able to do last minute adjustments. It's a royal wedding! You don't get a much bigger occasion than that!

If it had been a one off I'd be inclined to blame the designer. But 8 years on, Meghan now has a bit of a history for wearing poorly fitted outfits.

Charles could have issued a Letter(s) Patent the minute he 'ascended', and he should have planned it well ahead (or QE2 could have done it much sooner) with a statement to the effect of,

'Mindful of the directly expressed wishes of Harry and Meghan in May 2019 not to have titles for their children, we have agreed to conform to their wishes and heretoforth rescind all current and future titles, styles and honours for their current and future children. Harry and Meghan remain much loved members of our family, and their children also.'

But Charles waited and waited ... too long.

Strongly agree. The Queen should have done it all the way back when Edward and Sophie decided not to use the titles, way before Catherine or Meghan were on the scene. That would have meant that it wasn't personal. But she didn't act at the right time. As Ever.

I think that this only leaves William with the option of removing titles from Charlotte and Louis as well as A+L. Which isn't the worst idea anyway.

I think the looser shape of the SMcC dress on MM looks much more stylish than the tight / fishtail effect of the green one which just looks like any any generic ASOS Prom dress circa 2016

I think William has a few options:

1. Issue an additional LP so that Charlotte's children have titles as well as Louis'. This is not great optically and I can't see him going down the road of increasing the number of royals.

2. Amend LP so it applies going forward to take away HRH from any children Louis will have. This leaves the HRH with Archie/Lilibet/Beatrice and Eugenie. This means that there will still be possible issues going forward with merching from the Sussexes/Yorks but avoids any further allegations of racism from the US. It also provides the Yorks with an incentive to behave - I suspect Andrew and Sarah have made concessions in return for leaving their daughters titles in place. The issue with this would be that William's grandchildren would have lesser titles than Archie and Lilibet, and I have a feeling this would bother William. I might be wrong though - I have no evidence. It would also look a bit odd not to remove the York titles.

3. Amend LP to take away HRH from the grandchildren of KCIII who aren't in the direct line of succession. This takes away the HRH from Archie/Lilibet but leaves the Yorks in place. I can't see him doing this and missing the opportunity to distance the Crown from the York scandals, particularly as this would leave him more open to racism allegations.

4. Amend LP to take away HRH from the grandchildren of QEII/KCIII who aren't in the direct line of succession. This takes away the HRH from Archie/Lilibet/Louise/James/Beatrice/Eugenie. I suspect that he will end up doing this and braving out the storm from Montecito. In reality Beatrice & Eugenie are so unpopular no one will support them if they complain, and Louise and James don't use it anyway, so they won't be practically affected. It avoids looking personal that way.

5. Do nothing and retain the weird status quo.

TLDR: William has a few options.

William will never take the titles away from his own children. If he does anything else it remains to be seen.

4 would be a good option and have it applied to all future grandchildren of the monarch too.

1. You can only have a title if you live in the UK.

Same. I did go hmm when the engagement photos were published (and the cost of the dress). All of it much grander than W & C. The pictures are just so smug and has an air of I am so much better than you plebs. Not very humanitarian is it (at this point media was still often referring to her humanitarianism but now we all know what bloody fakery that was).

I suspect she might have borrowed the engagement dress in return for the publicity rather than bought it. She wasn’t officially in the RF at that point so was possibly allowed more freedom around the freebies/PR rules.

The dress I thought was a ridiculous purchase was the maternity ball gown in Morocco which was Dior (I think) and was estimated to cost something like £60,000.

It was a very similar to one Kate had worn in Norway (McQueen) which still had a very expensive price tag for a one wear outfit but was ‘only’ £7-10,000.

If I was very very very rich I could possibly imagine spending up to 10,000 for a very special dress but I can’t see how people justify the equivalent of an average yearly salary.

I agree. The green colour doesn't help either. I think M did lose weight, but the slightly looser fit looked cooler than the sleek fit.

It always baffles me that they can't get these dresses just right. It might be the ignorant non-sempstress in me talking, but they knock up pretty good fits on Sewing Bee in a couple of hours, surely they could have a part-made spare and a seamstress ready to go last minute for the price?!

Eugenie had a simple but structured dress and it was fitted beautifully.

And her bridesmaids all had perfectly uniformly finished skirts.

The finish on Charlotte’s dress at Meghan’s wedding was terrible for something that was designed and created by Givenchy.

Also what I never understood about ‘dressgate’ as described by Harry in Spare was they hired a local tailor to try to fix the issues that Kate was supposedly complaining about - why hadn’t Givenchy sent a team to Windsor to be on hand to deal with issues like this?

So true, god bless them for their tireless selfless work 😂