Harry and Meghan's Australian jaunt -part 3 it's nearly over!

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Do private citizens on a business trip normally get to issue press embargoes? I can't say I've ever heard of it.

In any case, embaragoes have no legal status, but the press usually adhere to them in order to maintain a good relationship with the royals. The Sussexes have been complaining bitterly about the evil tabloids for years, and Harry is currently sueing at least one of them. So it's not like any of them are going to go out of their way to make goodwill gestures towards them.

Wonder how H and M would feel if no one reported on their activities ?

Inconsolable.

Perhaps Hazard would come home to find Meg weeping on the floor, sobbing.

I commented that she was becoming a copy of the DOW. It was quite uncanny.

I think there were plenty of other beachgoers who were unfazed by the arrival of the Sussex circus judging by a wider camera view.

I was just checking on Princess Margaret's children and it said that titles do not pass on through a princess only a prince. Will this be the case for Charlotte? It says so unless there is a change. Surely this needs to be addressed ?

George's children will be in the direct line of succession. Charlotte's (and Louis') won't be. There is already precedent, as pp said, in Princess Anne's children not having titles. And also in Edward's children not using Princess and Prince even though by the rules in place at the time they could do.

I expect by the time any of the Wales children are of an age to marry and have children there will be new rules about what titles, if any, their children will have, but there's no hurry; it'll be ten or fifteen years at least before it's likely to be an issue.

So they wanted fewer people to turn up?

Liam has been whining about this for over a week until the Guardian took the bait

Harry and Meghan's PR accused multiple publications of breaching an embargo last week - but had to backtrack and apologise.... I think it's a clapback because of the taxpayers costs and probably to bolster their argument for security

Sky news - April 14th
When asked to explain why he was misleading Australian newsrooms about a broken embargo, that did not exist, Mr Maguire backtracked, saying "we acknowledge that neither outlet was formally bound by the embargo".
"The Daily Mail breached an embargoed operational planning note by publishing sensitive details about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s visit to Australia," he wrote.
"This clear disregard for basic journalistic ethics has had a tangible impact on the visit, complicating and compromising security arrangements. While other outlets recognised the serious implications and chose not to follow the story, The Daily Mirror and Sky News Australia amplified the report, further exacerbating the consequences of the original breach.
"Although we acknowledge that neither outlet was formally bound by the embargo, their decision to prioritise 'the story' raises serious questions about whether the pursuit of headlines should ever outweigh responsible reporting when safety and security are at stake."
Mr Maguire was asked to explain why he had emailed contradicting information to different newsrooms.
https://www.skynews.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity-life/the-worldwide-privacy-tour-continues-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-whinge-about-leaked-details-during-australian-publicity-tour/news-story/32447b7266f769ae2dae938c728eba97

I was just wondering if there was going to be any revision in the light of the changes though ie the fact that Charlotte is now ahead of Louis as it were in the line of succession. This wasn't the case with Anne.

I can’t remember now if I posted on this thread or the pr one so apologies for any repetition.

Dd lives in Bondi and has done for nearly 3 years. She’s young and sociable and knows a lot of people. She’s on the beach every day at least once with her dog. She was on the beach that awful day in December.

My point is that she knows the area well, and is constantly out and about there. I asked her what people thought about H & M visiting. She said no one had mentioned it really.

@ShamedBySiri mobbed by fans? Looking at the picture you shared, there were more life guards than fans!

They've almost got the privacy they longed for albeit unintentional.

"Although we acknowledge that neither outlet was formally bound by the embargo, their decision to prioritise 'the story' raises serious questions about whether the pursuit of headlines should ever outweigh responsible reporting when safety and security are at stake.""

This does sound like a pre-emptive security whinge to me , esp as DM who H clearly has no time for.

FFS - nothing rabble rousing has been reported and even though the faux embargo for the faux tour was broken , surely H with his lion and elephant wrangling superpowers should have been able to see the onlookers off. Especially as it seems H&M's own camera men , security and aides outnumbered any bystanders / adoring fans / those a danger to H&M. I exaggerate somewhat for effect - but really I think H should back off the British press for a while. If they didn't want publicity why was M advertising her clothes - not much use of they were going to be secret squirrel everywhere .

This looks like a huge clap back even by their standards. If H thinks this will influence his case v ALN - well I hope it doesn't - I am sure the DM under the circs will know exactly what they were allowed to do. Or not.

Ach well - I am sure it makes sense in their world.

Surely the best way to avoid an 'embargo' being broken is not to inform the press about details of your working holiday in advance?

The rest of us manage our travel arrangements without letting Sky News know what we're up to.

My personal theory is that Charles was planning to address this by stopping HRH from going to any grandchildren who weren't the children of the heir, but he has backtracked because of the racism allegations in Oprah. Now we've got an odd situation where Charlotte's children wouldn't be entitled but Louis' would be, despite being lower down in the line of succession. It will be interesting to see what William does; I don't think he'll want to have his grandchildren with lesser titles than Archie and Lilibet somehow. (Just a feeling, before anyone asks me for proof!)

Quite so. I don't use the term unhinged lightly ( and I'm not using it completely seriously now ) but if this is what Harry is saying well , I think he might think things through a little more. It was a private visit. For commercial reasons. Even the philanthropic visits advertised M's clothes. This is a business trip by two private individuals, albeit trying to build / cement a brand. If they tried to make it look like a Royal tour and publicised it - took along cameramen etc - more fool them.

Exactly.

And as I said above, the press respect embargoes not because they are obliged to, but because they don't want to risk their relationship with the royals. Given that the Sussexes have been 'at war' with much of the British press for years now, goodwill gestures seem superflous.

The idea that these two chancers should be requesting 'embargoes' for their faux tour just shows what delusions of grandeur they have.

IIRC there is now a typically British muddle where the line of succession for the monarchy is strictly birth order but aristocratic titles are still male line descent. I suspect that is where Charlotte's offspring start drawing the short straw. When the late Queen changed the rules on succession I remember there was debate about it changing for all inherited titles but this was resisted.

“…their decision to prioritise ‘the story’ raises serious questions about whether the pursuit of headlines should ever outweigh responsibility me reporting when safety me security are at stake”.

Unbelievable! If there are any two people routinely in the western media who prioritise “the story” - actually, scrap that, not “the story” but “their own version of the actual story”, in pursuit of headlines at the expense of anything and anyone else, it's Harry and Meghan!! They’re on a par with the most basic influencers for getting into the news, except they have access to traditional media rather than social media. That’s the only difference. Many SM influencers are actually more interesting and talented than these two.

Harry with his safety and security paranoia is all emotion and no intelligence. Like, zero thought at all. He needs to have all his toys taken away from him because all he does with them is hurt himself and hurt others. He can’t be trusted with anything.

So does MW if the boxes piling into whichever royal downgrade he's now consented to be consigned to are to be believed.

couldn't agree more.
the impression I get (and I'd be interested to see whether posters who live in Australia agree with me ) that they could have published a step by step itinerary and still have been greeted with staged photo opps , some hard core fans and a great deal of apathy.
I do think H needs to get a little perspective on the British and other MSM.

Oh & I do think they are using this embargo-that-wasn't to deflect from the cost of NSW etc policing costs
Cynical - moi? 😊

I rather got the impression they would have liked to be mobbed by fans everywhere they went.