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The royal family

PR Disasters….Part 8

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AtIusvue · 15/04/2026 09:57

PR Disasters of the The Duke and Duchess of Sussex continued :

  • So far we have Meg using charity events/sick children/vulnerable adults to merch her fashion, with the launch of her new fashion platform
  • She will be appearing on MasterChef Australia
  • Harry claiming to have had therapy when Archie was born, even though he never sought MH help for his ill wife a few short months earlier.
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BasiliskStare · 15/04/2026 20:09

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 19:57

What is different this time though is this is literally a “royal tour” whilst simultaneously selling selfies and clothes worn whilst royalling, as far as I can tell they have not done both on their other faux royal tours, this is a first and this is what has enraged people. If they had visited Australia to do her pay per play girls weekend and Harry speaking at some paid for corporate event I can understand the Palace just rolling their eyes, but this Australia tour has crossed a line and broken the Sandringham agreement in plain sight and as they know they have got away with it watch out for them pushing it even further, mark my words this is just the beginning.

I could not agree more . Speaking engagements / spa weekends fine . But hospitals etc and being referred to as D&DOS - not fine. Not when M is shilling the frocks she's wearing to visit sick children.
They've just created the HIHO they wanted and banking on BP continuing to remain silent. I should imagine the pair of them are mightily pleased with themselves at the moment.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 20:16

MrsLeonFarrell · 15/04/2026 20:09

They aren't there at the invitation of the government. They aren't meeting with key politicians. It really isn't a Royal tour, just a weird mix of commercial and "Charity" and getting photos with people they consider worthy. They are basically Angelina Jolie with a title, except they need to earn money at the same time and she doesn't.

I suspect that people are waiting to see the outcome of the tour before deciding if something needs to be said. The government were quick to step in and make it clear they have no official status when they went to Nigeria so I assume the lack of statement means they don't think people will be confused and will know they only represent themselves.

And what can be done? You can't make a law against visiting hospitals and merching the frock you wore. Any statement from the palace is rehashing the original one. Only the government can say anything and they don't seem worried.

So what was the point of the Sandringham agreement in the first place?

TheAutumnCrow · 15/04/2026 20:23

I’m not going to be emotionally blackmailed into feeling sorry for that vicious sod, whatever his ‘inner turmoil’ and the Palace's stance.

Not after the hospital stunt.

MrsLeonFarrell · 15/04/2026 20:26

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 20:16

So what was the point of the Sandringham agreement in the first place?

My understanding of it was that they we're told they couldn't remain as part time working Royals, defined as representing the monarch, whilst engaging in commercial activities. They were also not allowed to use the HRH.

They are using their titles, without HRH, for money, but that is what Fergie has done for years and no one thought she was half in half out. I do think that half the problem is that palace definitions are really labyrinthine and people expected that the Sandringham agreement meant they couldn't earn money with the Sussex title at all whereas the bit the palace was focused on was them stopping representing the monarch or having royal patronages if they were going commercial.

MrsLeonFarrell · 15/04/2026 20:27

ShamedBySiri · 15/04/2026 20:09

There’s talk of possible product collaboration with Masterchef! 🤦‍♀️

Can you imagine Megan on Ready Steady Cook.

You have 30 minutes to cook a meal using only the items in this bag:

Jam
Honey
Flower sprinkles and a candle.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2026 20:29

MrsLeonFarrell · 15/04/2026 19:44

I suspect that there are genuine concerns about Harry's mental health.

I suspect you could be right, MrsLF, and would fully expect this to be used if they really wanted to bring him back

I'd also expect the current "Nooooo we don't want him here" to turn very quickly into "It's time to move on and don't you want a sick man to get proper care"

The rehab efforts worked for Camilla and they could work again ...

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 20:30

MrsLeonFarrell · 15/04/2026 20:26

My understanding of it was that they we're told they couldn't remain as part time working Royals, defined as representing the monarch, whilst engaging in commercial activities. They were also not allowed to use the HRH.

They are using their titles, without HRH, for money, but that is what Fergie has done for years and no one thought she was half in half out. I do think that half the problem is that palace definitions are really labyrinthine and people expected that the Sandringham agreement meant they couldn't earn money with the Sussex title at all whereas the bit the palace was focused on was them stopping representing the monarch or having royal patronages if they were going commercial.

And that worked out well with Fergie didnt it.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 15/04/2026 20:39

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2026 20:29

I suspect you could be right, MrsLF, and would fully expect this to be used if they really wanted to bring him back

I'd also expect the current "Nooooo we don't want him here" to turn very quickly into "It's time to move on and don't you want a sick man to get proper care"

The rehab efforts worked for Camilla and they could work again ...

But you need to want to be rehabilitated.

It would require a complete change of personality from Harry.

TheAutumnCrow · 15/04/2026 20:43

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 15/04/2026 20:39

But you need to want to be rehabilitated.

It would require a complete change of personality from Harry.

And Camilla didn’t bring numerous court cases; lie in court; cause mayhem within a charity - all this circus is ongoing now and will be for some time.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2026 20:45

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 15/04/2026 20:39

But you need to want to be rehabilitated.

It would require a complete change of personality from Harry.

Or just the appearance of a change, RecollectionsMayVary?

As I say so often, while we know a great deal about H&M through their own words and actions, we know much less about the rest of them (and even the few bits that trickle into public view can be desperate)

So given that the image is all, I doubt it would be beyond the suits to create a new narrative even for Harry

Camilla didn’t bring numerous court cases; lie in court; cause mayhem within a charity

Edited to add Camilla isn't blood family, @TheAutumnCrow, so may have known perfectly well she couldn't afford to ...

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not making a case for Harry being brought back - just musing that any outcry if he was might be easily managed

corblimeygvnr · 15/04/2026 20:46

For Ever probably. He will be wanting a state funeral.

corblimeygvnr · 15/04/2026 20:57

flapjackfairy · 15/04/2026 19:53

I feel for Archie.It is already the narrative that his mother wanted to kill herself whilst pregnant with him. And now his father is wanging on about being disassociated from him and struggling with parenthood.
the poor kid doesn't need to know any of that never mind it being served up.for public consumption as a money making opportunity.
They should have insulated him completely from all that.

You see he doesn't think !

He spouts all this shite out seemingly forgetting that once it is out there it is out there forever. In the Revenge book there is a great deal of talk about how Harry and his ghost writer had different ideas. In the end they let Harry run with his rantings because they knew it would sell well - to hell with the image it created of him. They wanted the BUCKS and he was then ridiculed as people starting pulling it apart.

He seems to think he has some vision from on high about mental health ( deluded ? ) but I agree he looks very angry in that talk he did. He's still angry and vengeful. I watched him talk - there was a child or baby making noises throughout. I wondered if that was distracting him too. He talks about his children as being the most important part of his life - why does he not forget the court cases and all the things that take him away from them ? I don't think he will ever be happy.

Butteredtoast55 · 15/04/2026 21:04

The longer this spectacle goes on, the less I can tolerate Harry. He's either mind-bogglingly stupid, viciously cruel or both. What on earth makes him think it's appropriate to give a talk outlining how he needed therapy to connect with his own unborn child? Hideous, thoughtless behaviour and all to stoke his own ego and that of his wife, and to boost the coffers. He makes me sick.

corblimeygvnr · 15/04/2026 21:04

I have to agree - this pair are revolting as they evolve.

BasiliskStare · 15/04/2026 21:09

I think the problem is , not being very bright with massive senses of grievance and entitlement and a complete lack of self awareness or reflection aren't a go to recipe for happiness. But he's Harry y'know so people should be listening to him. No matter what ill thought out nonsense he spouts.

ETA - And unfortunately people give him the platforms to feed his sense of importance / relevance.

Starryfifty · 15/04/2026 21:12

I think Harry knows he can always fall back on the RF if everything goes wrong.

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2026 21:16

Starryfifty · 15/04/2026 21:12

I think Harry knows he can always fall back on the RF if everything goes wrong.

Not so sure . I very much doubt William will ever engage with him again .

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 21:27

Butteredtoast55 · 15/04/2026 21:04

The longer this spectacle goes on, the less I can tolerate Harry. He's either mind-bogglingly stupid, viciously cruel or both. What on earth makes him think it's appropriate to give a talk outlining how he needed therapy to connect with his own unborn child? Hideous, thoughtless behaviour and all to stoke his own ego and that of his wife, and to boost the coffers. He makes me sick.

Seeing as Archie appears to be an afterthought it makes you wonder whether they both feel a disconnection now. Imagine growing up and reading your mother apparently wanted to kill her self while she was pregnant with you and your father needed therapy because he felt no connection to you before you were even born.

Indianrollerbird · 15/04/2026 21:36

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 21:27

Seeing as Archie appears to be an afterthought it makes you wonder whether they both feel a disconnection now. Imagine growing up and reading your mother apparently wanted to kill her self while she was pregnant with you and your father needed therapy because he felt no connection to you before you were even born.

It's horribly cruel information to put out into the public sphere. And they have the gall to lecture the public on child mental health and the internet. Meanwhile, his sister has been put on a public pedestal by their parents since birth.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2026 21:39

flapjackfairy · 15/04/2026 19:53

I feel for Archie.It is already the narrative that his mother wanted to kill herself whilst pregnant with him. And now his father is wanging on about being disassociated from him and struggling with parenthood.
the poor kid doesn't need to know any of that never mind it being served up.for public consumption as a money making opportunity.
They should have insulated him completely from all that.

You couldn't be more correct, flapjack fairy

After the dysfunctional upbringing Harry had himself you'd have hoped he might have thought of all this - Meghan too with the talk of suicide - but it seems their level of self absorption is capable of excluding even the children

LazyCatLtd · 15/04/2026 21:45

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2026 21:39

You couldn't be more correct, flapjack fairy

After the dysfunctional upbringing Harry had himself you'd have hoped he might have thought of all this - Meghan too with the talk of suicide - but it seems their level of self absorption is capable of excluding even the children

I haven’t seen anyone mention the fact that Diana claimed she threw herself down the stairs when pregnant with William. I wonder if as usual Meghan is aligning herself with Diana so Harry is triggered.

LazyCatLtd · 15/04/2026 21:46

Indianrollerbird · 15/04/2026 21:36

It's horribly cruel information to put out into the public sphere. And they have the gall to lecture the public on child mental health and the internet. Meanwhile, his sister has been put on a public pedestal by their parents since birth.

That’s I suspect because she was born in the US and the RF don’t know her at all.

LazyCatLtd · 15/04/2026 21:47

Starryfifty · 15/04/2026 21:12

I think Harry knows he can always fall back on the RF if everything goes wrong.

I don’t think there is a cat in hells chance of that ever happening.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2026 21:51

LazyCatLtd · 15/04/2026 21:45

I haven’t seen anyone mention the fact that Diana claimed she threw herself down the stairs when pregnant with William. I wonder if as usual Meghan is aligning herself with Diana so Harry is triggered.

Though I didn't mention it specifically, for me it's all part and parcel of that dysfunctional upbringing I mentioned, LazyCatLtd

I agree, though, that it may not be beyond Meghan to weaponise it in order to manipulate Harry - which if true would make her as cruel as he is

Typo

BigWillyLittleTodger · 15/04/2026 21:52

LazyCatLtd · 15/04/2026 21:45

I haven’t seen anyone mention the fact that Diana claimed she threw herself down the stairs when pregnant with William. I wonder if as usual Meghan is aligning herself with Diana so Harry is triggered.

It’s been talked about before on other threads, I never believed her claims for a minute, she just read Diana’s true story and played the part to manipulate Harry playing into his fears of losing his mother and then losing his wife, threatening ending your life is often used as a form of abuse to control your spouse and I believe that’s what she did.

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