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Prince William's Christian Journey

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BoxingHare · 25/03/2026 10:38

Here we go, another article about that 'quiet faith' that has been completely silent until now!

As one of the btl comments suggests, is there some rebranding going on???

Surely not!

Prince William’s Christian journey https://share.google/6ANWHkV5p0o0qj1TV

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Goldfsh · 27/03/2026 09:51

Rhaidimiddim · 26/03/2026 22:14

Does anyone else agree that a university-educated man born in the last quarter of the 20th century, in the UK - and thus exposed to all kinds of ideas and influences, including Life of Brian and Richard Dawkins - is not likely to grow up a True Christian Believer?

The fact that he will one day inherit the role of Head of the C of E isn't likely to influence what he believes about life, dead, the universe and this Jesus bloke. He is more likely to be wondering where the UFOs come from than transubstantiation.

Um no, I totally disagree. Most priests I know have several degrees. Find me a dim Jesuit. Do you think the Lords Spiritual are all as thick as mince? Do you think everyone who attends church is A Bit Slow?

A spiritual dimension to life has always been a very core part of human existence and shaped our culture and development for millenia.

CathyorClaire · 27/03/2026 10:41

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/03/2026 21:36

Although I’m sure most members of the C of E would prefer the SGOTCOE to be a worshipper it isn’t a a pre requisite for the role.

Supreme Governor of the Church of England (the Monarch) is not legally or constitutionally required to hold a specific personal belief in God, though they must be a Protestant, communicant member of the Church of England to hold the title. The role is primarily ceremonial and constitutional, focusing on upholding the established church, rather than a spiritual one.

  • Historical Context: While modern monarchs like Elizabeth II and Charles III have been known for their personal Christian faith, the role itself is focused on upholding the institution of the church, not requiring a test of personal faith in God.

If the SG is required to be a practising communicant but doesn't have to hold a personal belief it makes for a potential dilemma for a non believing SG given the Church discourages non-believers generally from taking part in what is an important sacrament.

midwalker · 27/03/2026 11:00

Rhaidimiddim · 26/03/2026 22:14

Does anyone else agree that a university-educated man born in the last quarter of the 20th century, in the UK - and thus exposed to all kinds of ideas and influences, including Life of Brian and Richard Dawkins - is not likely to grow up a True Christian Believer?

The fact that he will one day inherit the role of Head of the C of E isn't likely to influence what he believes about life, dead, the universe and this Jesus bloke. He is more likely to be wondering where the UFOs come from than transubstantiation.

I agree. I’m surprised that people are surprised that William doesn’t have much (if any?) faith. I also wouldn’t have expected any demonstrations of his faith or lack thereof up to this point. Until recently he was only second in line.

I’m an Anglican and honestly don’t have a strong faith myself, I’m probably more loyal to the institution and the traditions of the church. I see the Archbishop of Canterbury as the spiritual leader. As Supreme Governor, if William shows up to church at the important times and leads a decent life, I
personally think that’s adequate and I’m not sure we can realistically expect more- apart from separating church and state!

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 11:17

simpsonthecat · 27/03/2026 09:40

You're not keen on William then? He's putting out PR pieces about his quiet faith, loudly.
We can't vote for him though, and he knows that so he can say what he wants to try and look good

I have no problems with William. I think it's refreshing that he isn't constantly talking about religion. He made one comment about quiet faith. He seems to be a decent guy.

Compare that to Hegseth, who is openly praying for violence:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/26/hegseth-prayer-violence-pentagon

Americans can use a little quiet faith.

Hegseth prays at Pentagon service for ‘overwhelming violence’ against enemies

Remarks come after Hegseth calls for changes to military’s chaplain corps, which he said had been ‘watered down’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/26/hegseth-prayer-violence-pentagon

simpsonthecat · 27/03/2026 11:24

There is quite obviously no comparison between William, the heir to the British throne, and an ex Fox drunk commentator who gets off on bombing innocent civilians.

I wouldnt speak of the two of them in the same breath!

Rhaidimiddim · 27/03/2026 11:39

Goldfsh · 27/03/2026 09:51

Um no, I totally disagree. Most priests I know have several degrees. Find me a dim Jesuit. Do you think the Lords Spiritual are all as thick as mince? Do you think everyone who attends church is A Bit Slow?

A spiritual dimension to life has always been a very core part of human existence and shaped our culture and development for millenia.

It isn't about IQ or intellect - it is about the likelihood of a person who is not forced by societal pressure or lack of alternative viewpoints to adopt a belief system.

Some people are still drawn to religion and find Jesus, but atheism isn't the big no-no it was when I was a child in the 1960s. And you can have (I do) a spiritual dimension that isn't rooted in 2000-year-old desert myths.

Edited to add an extra zero.

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 11:49

At this point in time, Hegseth is the more powerful of the two. William's religious beliefs or lack there of isn't going to kill thousands. He also isn't demoralizing the military.

simpsonthecat · 27/03/2026 11:56

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 11:49

At this point in time, Hegseth is the more powerful of the two. William's religious beliefs or lack there of isn't going to kill thousands. He also isn't demoralizing the military.

Why are you even comparing these two people?
Beyond me, I don't understand

The secretary of war defence in the US who can and will be voted out. And the heir to the throne in UK who will become King and can't be voted out!
They are nothing to do with each other in any way, shape or form

BoxingHare · 27/03/2026 11:59

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 11:49

At this point in time, Hegseth is the more powerful of the two. William's religious beliefs or lack there of isn't going to kill thousands. He also isn't demoralizing the military.

What on earth has this other man got to do with William and his Christian journey?

You could bring up any extreme person in a position of power from anywhere on the planet.

None of whom would be particularly relevant.

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simpsonthecat · 27/03/2026 12:03

BoxingHare · 27/03/2026 11:59

What on earth has this other man got to do with William and his Christian journey?

You could bring up any extreme person in a position of power from anywhere on the planet.

None of whom would be particularly relevant.

Thank you. Yes. I was losing the will to live here 🤣

CurlewKate · 27/03/2026 12:08

This thread has gone weird.

damelza · 27/03/2026 12:23

CurlewKate · 27/03/2026 12:08

This thread has gone weird.

That's religion for you! Seems to bring out the worst in some people for some reason, ironically.

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 12:46

You can't vote out a secretary of state. They are appointed, not elected.

I'm talking about how people's religious views can adversely affect the world. I fail to see how a Head of Church with a quiet faith is a problem.

Possibly because I was raised Roman Catholic and learned about all the various crusades, inquisitions, etc. caused by openly religious leaders. William isn't going to start a campaign of intolerance.

Im not a practicing RC, and reading this thread has made me realize that I dont think anyone has the right to tell another person how to interact with the divine.

simpsonthecat · 27/03/2026 13:05

You can't vote out a secretary of state. They are appointed, not elected.

Shame. He's a war mongering nutjob

corblimeyguvnr · 27/03/2026 13:16

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 11:17

I have no problems with William. I think it's refreshing that he isn't constantly talking about religion. He made one comment about quiet faith. He seems to be a decent guy.

Compare that to Hegseth, who is openly praying for violence:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/26/hegseth-prayer-violence-pentagon

Americans can use a little quiet faith.

The USA is more open and vocal about religion than the British are for the most part.

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 13:16

Yet an openly devout Christian convinced that he is doing God's work.

corblimeyguvnr · 27/03/2026 13:19

jeffgoldblum · 26/03/2026 23:18

I would rather see a “ quiet “ Christian than a loud , performative sharleton! , my own grandfather, payed his way to heaven, his phrase “ god loves a sinner who has come around to his way of thinking “ was not only self serving but showed his deeply flawed idea of faith!

Burns Bru GIF by IRN-BRU

Agree - no one likes the Holy Willies !

BoxingHare · 27/03/2026 13:38

The point is that, considering so few of William's age group are Christian, is it really feasible that the future king is, quiet or otherwise?

Is this reveal another piece of PR fluff from his people to show the minions that he's a safe pair of hands as head of the church?

Isn't it ridiculous that the Head of State is also head of the CofE? These things should be completely separate (don't get me started on the Bishop's in the HoL).

So many of us are cynical about his supposed faith because so many of the positive and puff articles about him appear at expedient moments.

An example of something I think is genuine is Catherine's strong belief in the healing power of nature. That seems to come from the heart in a way this quiet Christian thing doesn't.

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/03/2026 13:44

CathyorClaire · 27/03/2026 10:41

If the SG is required to be a practising communicant but doesn't have to hold a personal belief it makes for a potential dilemma for a non believing SG given the Church discourages non-believers generally from taking part in what is an important sacrament.

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Is William a non believer? Has he said so?

Serenster · 27/03/2026 13:45

Rhaidimiddim · 27/03/2026 11:39

It isn't about IQ or intellect - it is about the likelihood of a person who is not forced by societal pressure or lack of alternative viewpoints to adopt a belief system.

Some people are still drawn to religion and find Jesus, but atheism isn't the big no-no it was when I was a child in the 1960s. And you can have (I do) a spiritual dimension that isn't rooted in 2000-year-old desert myths.

Edited to add an extra zero.

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Do you think this about all those who have a personal faith, whether Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jewish etc? Or just Christians?

corblimeyguvnr · 27/03/2026 13:46

I've read actually recently that more and more young men are actually starting to attend Church. They call it the Quiet Revival fuelled by several social factors.

ColdSpringHarbor · 27/03/2026 13:57

There was a story on the BBC only yesterday about how the YouGov survey on which the whole Quiet Revival story has been based was flawed and the report has been retracted by the Bible Society.

corblimeyguvnr · 27/03/2026 14:02

ColdSpringHarbor · 27/03/2026 13:57

There was a story on the BBC only yesterday about how the YouGov survey on which the whole Quiet Revival story has been based was flawed and the report has been retracted by the Bible Society.

I think it was to do with the methodology as the Bible Society still feature positive changes ( in their eyes)

Prince William's Christian Journey
Rhaidimiddim · 27/03/2026 14:02

Serenster · 27/03/2026 13:45

Do you think this about all those who have a personal faith, whether Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist, Jewish etc? Or just Christians?

I'm not sure what you're asking.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 27/03/2026 14:07

CurlewKate · 27/03/2026 12:08

This thread has gone weird.

It’s weird full stop.
William says he has a quiet faith, he’s lying and shouldn’t be Supreme Governor.
William says nothing about his beliefs, he has no faith so shouldn’t be Supreme Governor
William attends church at Royal events, all for PR shouldn’t be Supreme Governor
William doesn’t attend church privately, shouldn’t be Supreme Governor
William attends church privately, all for PR shouldn’t be Supreme Governor.