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Prince William's Christian Journey

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BoxingHare · 25/03/2026 10:38

Here we go, another article about that 'quiet faith' that has been completely silent until now!

As one of the btl comments suggests, is there some rebranding going on???

Surely not!

Prince William’s Christian journey https://share.google/6ANWHkV5p0o0qj1TV

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jeffgoldblum · 26/03/2026 17:52

Goldfsh · 26/03/2026 17:40

I'm not sure your posts have offered anything constructive in terms of why you think William is handling this leadership role well? Or do you just think it's okay not to offer much while he's the man-in-waiting?

That doesn’t seem very “Christian “ of you!

Cheese55 · 26/03/2026 18:11

TravellingSomewhere · 25/03/2026 21:41

I find it hard to fathom how much training is really required, we hear they are training for the role since a young age but seriously why? Why can't they be kept away from it all until 21yrs old allowing them to develop skills to go on and have careers or jobs especially for the spares.

Of course there is a small risk the current monarch may suddenly pass away but realistically the Queen lived long, so is the King right now. Who needs almost 30+yrs of training. If they start from 20yrs old even that is still 20yrs of training.

I do have a feeling this is his new crisis manager at work and clapping back at all the negative comments made about him.

Because they might say 'naah' and run off. He has to be groomed from a v young age that he needs to do this to save the commonwealth otherwise why would you choose it.

CathyorClaire · 26/03/2026 20:49

BemusedAmerican · 26/03/2026 16:06

So what matters is keeping up the front and not actually leading a moral life?

Are we all in a position where we can make value judgements on other's beliefs?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone....

We know W doesn't keep up the front but does he not lead a moral life?

I'm intrigued. Come sit by me and whisper 😁

CathyorClaire · 26/03/2026 21:01

Do people HAVE to attend to be a Christian?

They don't have to, no but my Baptist and strongly CofE adjacent upbringing heartily recommended regular mixing with the faithful.

Rhaidimiddim · 26/03/2026 21:03

SecretBather · 25/03/2026 21:50

Agree that Charles’ prognosis can’t be good.

Fwiw I think William will be a good king and will be able to move the RF towards a more streamlined and modern model.

And hopefully will ditch the Christian woo dimension.

When the Church had power, the monarch being head of the C of E was necessary politically. Now it must be just a nuisance for them, having to pretend to believe stuff they don't.

CathyorClaire · 26/03/2026 21:08

We don’t see photos of them in their day to day life and have really no idea what they are or are not doing.

Do you not think a billionaire sucking an estimated £127k an hour from the public purse should be a bit transparent about their activities?

Goldfsh · 26/03/2026 21:08

Rhaidimiddim · 26/03/2026 21:03

And hopefully will ditch the Christian woo dimension.

When the Church had power, the monarch being head of the C of E was necessary politically. Now it must be just a nuisance for them, having to pretend to believe stuff they don't.

I don't disagree, to be honest. I'd far rather the monarch was honest about their beliefs/values rather than pretending they 'quietly' believe things just to keep the peace.

However, I have no hope that William will remotely shake up the monarchy. I don't think he has either the appetite or the stomach for it. I think he will continue being 'quiet' at everything.

CathyorClaire · 26/03/2026 21:11

HoppityBun · 26/03/2026 16:45

But that’s the stupid thing about hereditary roles. He didn’t choose this, none of them did. They all want to keep the roles and the money, so even before conception, a child’s destiny is determined. It is unthinkable that a monarch or heir apparent will say “my children will decide their future for themselves”.

The monarch and heirs don’t decide to be head of the CoE, it’s decided for them whatever they believe or don’t believe.

The children of people on MN have more self determination.

It seems to be hypocrisy all round.

All are free to walk away any time they choose.

Overwhelmingly they don't.

NightBitch · 26/03/2026 21:34

wheresthesnowgone · 26/03/2026 04:46

You can't make someone believe in the god stuff if they simply don't. You can have values that align with Christianity without being an actual god botherer.

Should that person really be head of the Church of England though?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/03/2026 21:36

Although I’m sure most members of the C of E would prefer the SGOTCOE to be a worshipper it isn’t a a pre requisite for the role.

Supreme Governor of the Church of England (the Monarch) is not legally or constitutionally required to hold a specific personal belief in God, though they must be a Protestant, communicant member of the Church of England to hold the title. The role is primarily ceremonial and constitutional, focusing on upholding the established church, rather than a spiritual one.

  • Historical Context: While modern monarchs like Elizabeth II and Charles III have been known for their personal Christian faith, the role itself is focused on upholding the institution of the church, not requiring a test of personal faith in God.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=Supreme+Governor+of+the+Church+of+England&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari&ved=2ahUKEwjm3dGqwb6TAxWgU0EAHbo9DhkQgK4QegQIARAB

HoppityBun · 26/03/2026 21:44

CathyorClaire · 26/03/2026 21:11

All are free to walk away any time they choose.

Overwhelmingly they don't.

That, indeed, was my point

Rhaidimiddim · 26/03/2026 21:47

Goldfsh · 26/03/2026 21:08

I don't disagree, to be honest. I'd far rather the monarch was honest about their beliefs/values rather than pretending they 'quietly' believe things just to keep the peace.

However, I have no hope that William will remotely shake up the monarchy. I don't think he has either the appetite or the stomach for it. I think he will continue being 'quiet' at everything.

I think he will move it towards its demise, rather than shake it up.

By just "quietly" withdrawing himself and his family more and more from the public eye. He's doing it right now, resulting in all the accusations of him being lazy.

They need to get the financials sorted, though. More transparency, and a better financial model for the children who don't get the top job.

Goldfsh · 26/03/2026 21:53

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/03/2026 21:36

Although I’m sure most members of the C of E would prefer the SGOTCOE to be a worshipper it isn’t a a pre requisite for the role.

Supreme Governor of the Church of England (the Monarch) is not legally or constitutionally required to hold a specific personal belief in God, though they must be a Protestant, communicant member of the Church of England to hold the title. The role is primarily ceremonial and constitutional, focusing on upholding the established church, rather than a spiritual one.

  • Historical Context: While modern monarchs like Elizabeth II and Charles III have been known for their personal Christian faith, the role itself is focused on upholding the institution of the church, not requiring a test of personal faith in God.

I think you are just quoting some AI summary?

I don't think any anglican would really think a non-Christian should be Head of hte CofE.

Rhaidimiddim · 26/03/2026 21:55

NightBitch · 26/03/2026 21:34

Should that person really be head of the Church of England though?

Well, the first monarch who was head of the C of E was a Catholic. He didn't become a Protestant when he broke with Rome.

And who knows what "quiet beliefs" recent Archbishops of Canterbury toyed with or adopted in the privacy of their own mind? The C of E is a broad church these days, and I doubt that any ond of its members has the exact same belief-set as any other.

BigWillyLittleTodger · 26/03/2026 22:01

Goldfsh · 26/03/2026 21:53

I think you are just quoting some AI summary?

I don't think any anglican would really think a non-Christian should be Head of hte CofE.

The role is purely ceremonial, it is a titular role so has no actual authority, the spiritual aspect is led by the Bishops.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 26/03/2026 22:09

He doesn’t need to be a scholar of theology, but he does need to do the basics ie go to church, with at least George accompanying him. He also shouldn’t do idiotic things like claim he has a quiet faith which just opens him up to ridicule. There are things I am not allowed to say when I’m working, and there are things that I must do to hold down my job. If my job description included attending church I would do it. He should follow the same rules. Don’t make people question your faith if you want to inherit a) the Supreme Governor bit or b) a crown based on your God-given right to rule/mystical anointing etc etc.

CoastalGrey · 26/03/2026 22:10

Goldfsh · 26/03/2026 16:57

Charles was very into Buddhism, and spoke about this very thoughtfully and passionately.

The point is, it's part of the job. If you don't want that part of the job, that's a different conversation.

I’m very much not religious but if I was I’d be extremely pissed off to have a leader who felt they had to pretend to believe just to save face. If he doesn’t believe he doesn’t and he’d be a massive hypocrite as well as insulting to those who do if he went along with it. I think there are many more useful things the royals could do for this country than back an outdated irrelevant institution.

Rhaidimiddim · 26/03/2026 22:14

Does anyone else agree that a university-educated man born in the last quarter of the 20th century, in the UK - and thus exposed to all kinds of ideas and influences, including Life of Brian and Richard Dawkins - is not likely to grow up a True Christian Believer?

The fact that he will one day inherit the role of Head of the C of E isn't likely to influence what he believes about life, dead, the universe and this Jesus bloke. He is more likely to be wondering where the UFOs come from than transubstantiation.

jeffgoldblum · 26/03/2026 23:02

Goldfsh · 26/03/2026 21:08

I don't disagree, to be honest. I'd far rather the monarch was honest about their beliefs/values rather than pretending they 'quietly' believe things just to keep the peace.

However, I have no hope that William will remotely shake up the monarchy. I don't think he has either the appetite or the stomach for it. I think he will continue being 'quiet' at everything.

Ah so you are not criticising him from a “Christian “ perspective but a more republican one! , at least be honest!

jeffgoldblum · 26/03/2026 23:18

I would rather see a “ quiet “ Christian than a loud , performative sharleton! , my own grandfather, payed his way to heaven, his phrase “ god loves a sinner who has come around to his way of thinking “ was not only self serving but showed his deeply flawed idea of faith!

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 00:49

Speaking as an American and Yorker, the minute some politician or religious figure starts loudly proclaiming their faith, I plan not to vote for them, and to wait for an upcoming scandal to break. I'm invariably right.

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 01:03

BTW, that should be a New Yorker. I lost my signal and couldn't put through the edit.

I'd like to add that Catherine would be at no.e with St. Francis of Assisi and St. Cuthbert, both of who had strong connections to nature.

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 01:19

CathyorClaire · 26/03/2026 20:49

We know W doesn't keep up the front but does he not lead a moral life?

I'm intrigued. Come sit by me and whisper 😁

I think he does lead a moral life. He just doesn't keep telling us that he leads one.

Andrew keeps posing at church services and his personal life is far from morally correct.

BoxingHare · 27/03/2026 07:09

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 00:49

Speaking as an American and Yorker, the minute some politician or religious figure starts loudly proclaiming their faith, I plan not to vote for them, and to wait for an upcoming scandal to break. I'm invariably right.

No one can vote or not vote for William, he'll get the position with no voting involved.

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simpsonthecat · 27/03/2026 09:40

BemusedAmerican · 27/03/2026 00:49

Speaking as an American and Yorker, the minute some politician or religious figure starts loudly proclaiming their faith, I plan not to vote for them, and to wait for an upcoming scandal to break. I'm invariably right.

You're not keen on William then? He's putting out PR pieces about his quiet faith, loudly.
We can't vote for him though, and he knows that so he can say what he wants to try and look good

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