Prince William's Christian Journey

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Here we go, another article about that 'quiet faith' that has been completely silent until now!

As one of the btl comments suggests, is there some rebranding going on???

Surely not!

Prince William’s Christian journey https://share.google/6ANWHkV5p0o0qj1TV

@Reddog1I agree that those two things should be scaled down.

I think that is now happening, but that it would be happening anyway, even if QE2 was still on the throne. The ongoing revelations about how badly she acted are just too bad. They've allowed people (we see them repesented here) to argue that the institution of the monarchy is rotten to its core - and she was the core. See also " a fish rots from the head".

Or we could just be people who hold a particular belief and welcome the opportunity to talk about it with other people who are interested too-whichever side the other people are on. In my experience, passionate Royalists tend to be more overt than passionate Republicans-I’ve seen lots of people dressed up in Union Jack suits-I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone dressed up as a guillotine…….

As a kind of monarchy-lite supporter my problem with Republic as it’s currently campaigning under Graham (can’t remember his last name) is that it’s all about negativity and what they don’t like.

Also as the main spokesperson he doesn’t come across as very likable or charismatic when interviewed.

Also our elected politicians are so awful right now that it doesn’t fill me with hope that we’d get the right types of people running for head of state who can replace the things I like about the current system.

It would probably take a hundred or more years to change from monarchy to republic if that ever happened! Anyway a non monarch as HOS does not have to be a politician either. And we could boot them out every five or so years anyway, unlike the current lot up in Windsor.

Amen!

I think in any faith forgiveness is highly overrated. There are things in life I’ll never forgive some people for and it doesn’t make me weak or damaged, it actually makes me feel stronger because I know forgiving them wouldn’t make me feel better and and most importantly I don’t actually need to feel better.

I agree - if anyone intentionally seriously hurt my family I would never forgive them. I would want them to suffer forever.

I don’t even think as far as wanting people to suffer forever. I just think about forgiveness and how not forgiving someone could actually be worse than wanting them to suffer forever.

Yes I don't dispute the fact that you enjoy discussing it with other like minds . My point though was that the VAST majority of British people don't really care. I don't think there's any point in bringing ridicule to a sensible point - I'm sure there are none of the Union Jack suited people on here . They are the equivalent of the " not my King " people who shout in public. They are at the extreme ends of the spectrum thankfully.

Bringing it forward a generation to George, I don't think he looked comfortable at the Easter parade last Sunday. It has probably very firmly landed with him that this is his future- whether he wants it or not.

@Decacaffeinatednow or he could just be a young lad who’d rather have been at home on his Xbox.

I won’t pretend that my main reason for disliking monarchy is that a child’s future is mapped out - that would be disingenuous - but it is one of the reasons.

I feel genuine sympathy for George. I don’t think it’s right that he’s in this situation. I know that he’ll never know poverty but he’ll also never know real freedom.

I have no idea how he feels about it of course. He looks uncomfortable to me ….but then again, so do many adolescent boys!

Yes, it is tedious.

(Aside, and not wanting to derail, I'm with you. Some things done to me I willl never forgive or forget; and I envy those better-than-thou sorts who opine that you can't move on if you can't forgive. They can get in the bin.)

The 13-y-o young relative we had over for an informal lunch - with a bunch of 5 other kids and a dog aged 5 - 15 - looked miserable, too. And.we didn't even make her go to church.
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Reading this article brought this thread to mind -the power crazed ladies in the padded gilets who turn people away from Church !

https://mol.im/a/15738991

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Yes, absolutely. I have a Cromwellion vision where William (or his emissaries) are round Wood Farm / Marsh Farm on the regular, telling AMW to ‘repent’ and lead a ‘moral life’ in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

He might also privately send the Archbishop of Canterbury to attempt to persuade AMW to repent of his sins and denounce the devil. Similarly a letter containing the same sentiments from his last remaining god-parent, Princess Alexandra of Kent, might be delivered to him.

It’s a process of helping the sinner rediscover morality, and encouraging prostration and cleansing. That is what a good Christian could do for someone like AMW.

The forgiveness that AMW requires sits entirely with the Lord. William can only offer a quiet personal forgiveness and is not obliged to if he sees no contrition or honesty within the miscreant. No Christian is required to pretend that someone’s soul is not dark and dissolute.

Maybe a version of this has been happening. Who knows?

Luckily other denominations of Christianity are available!

I think William needs to look into non-conformism.

I couldn’t care less if William practices a faith or not as long as he does the job he’s supposed to do as the head of the Church when the time comes.

I think William could redefine the role?

Just musing here <ARRIVAL IN WANKERTON ALERT> but as pp have said elsewhere, Henry VIII was given the title 'Fidei Defensor' by the (then) Pope Leo when he (H8) was still a loyal Roman Catholic, and had written a treatise opposing the teachings of Martin Luther.

'FD' later stayed with the monarch and morphed into a linkage with the title of Supreme Governor of the Church of England. This was solidified through imagery on coinage - powerful stuff to spread through an Empire, later Commonwealth.

The literal translation of Fidei Defensor from the Latin, which has no definite article, could be 'Defender of Faith' which Charles prefers, aiming to protect all faiths in Britain & Realms rather than only the Church of England.

I think with regard to the translation, the Pope would hardly have rewarded Henry VIII for other than defending Roman Catholicism, so probably is should be translated as 'Defender of the Faith'; but Charles understandably is trying to make a mediaeval anachronistic title make sense.

IMO the 'Head of the Church' should defend all Christian denominations and the Abrahamic faiths, and support religion and belief as being protected thought and speech, including all forms of agnosticism and atheism (ie not believing in any particular religions, beliefs and ideologies), which is where our law seems to be.

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I think William needs to look into non-conformism.

I can confidently guarantee non-conformists have their share of alert ladies in padded gilets along with equally alert gents in beige multi-pocketed safari gilets.

No refuge for a shy seeker after the truth there 😉