PR disasters continued. Thread 6

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Looks like the call has gone out for a last minute security push for team Harry.

@BillyBites I think this may be The Times link that @jeffgoldblum posted earlier

archive.ph/EE4Kj

Sure does @IAmATorturedPoet. So predictable. As ever.

I see the stalker popping up at the court case is again mentioned to justify the increased security risk. Hmmm.

The replies are funny, but correct. You don't get to leave your job but keep the perks.

And this comes back to why I dislike them so much- they have no understanding of their privilege.

I can't actually read that link. It makes me really cross it's 'affecting my family every single day' (not having UK security)

But they can attend the Middle East and Africa? Harry can go around and knock on random London doors?

There is so much that affects families every single day, much worse than having to follow the UK rules - he would get protection if he stayed at a Royal Residence.

If he gets protection above and beyond what Anne/Edward/etc get then it will make me a Republican.

I have very similar thoughts and feelings too after reading that article @RecoIIectionsMayVary

There will be a backlash in one form or another if the entitled man-child gets his own way.

I’m trying to word this carefully, but to Harry, I don’t think security is just security in the sense of protecting him from threats. It’s status and a way to have a social life. Security probably facilitated errands, assisted arrangements and when Harry was younger, may have been a source of support to him.

Looking at what has been released so far about Andrew, his visits and his visitors, the logistics needed planning, and AMW didn’t do that. At least, not alone.

While I think the leading cause of his tantrum is arrogance of the do you know who I am variety, I also strongly suspect that Harry was used having a team of, mainly male, security to facilitate and smooth over some of his social choices.

They were just discussing this on Sky news and the journalists seemed very concerned that a stalker was able to get close to H on two occasions. How many women have stalkers or abusive exs and get no support or protection from the police? And how many such women die every year at the hands of those men? Moreover, is the suggestion that H will receive protection in the US? How would that even work? The cost would be extortionate.
On the other hand, the mischievous side of me thinks if H is saying the security is preventing him from bringing the dcs to the UK, give it to him and see what happens. I personally think M doesn’t want to return to the UK again.

I do think that individually H&M have different objectives and preferred outcomes where the whole RAVEC/security issue is concerned.

It’s absolutely ridiculous to think he could get tax payer funded security, just because he wants it and expects it.

If he is that scared about the UK, don’t bloody come, it’s not a war zone!

If ( and it’s a big if) he is given the security he deems necessary, it will be interesting to see what excuses M comes up with to avoid setting foot in the UK .
The King and Queen will likely be in Scotland in July/ August and i certainly don’t think any of the other Royals will welcome them .
And there is a huge risk of them being booed .
Maybe they should stick to “ safer “ places such as Nigeria !

I do believe the "source" in that particular article is actually Harry.

Ahh, so the Police believe he's in danger but the bad Politicians (insert Head of ROYAL Household) are refusing the poor soul. Meanwhile Edward and Sophie get dragged into it too.

Again Harry showing he doesn't understand how RAVEC works and makes decisions.

I assume he's not gotten the decision he wants from his review and he's reverting back to complaining about the Establishment Stitch Up.

I have just realised it wasn’t The Times article that @jeffgoldblum linked to @00:06, it was actually The Telegraph, apologies for archiving the incorrect link Jeff.

I haven't been able to access the Telegraph link yet.

According to the Times link (thanks @IAmATorturedPoet) no decision has yet been made. A source is suggesting there is political pressure on the committee, and is positioning the Home Office in opposition to the police and security advisers. The HO spokesman has effectively said it doesn't comment on security.

The article again mentions the 'stalker' in court. As I understand it, there is airport-type security in the High Court, and if there had been any concerns the woman would not have been permitted to enter the courtroom.

I agree this is likely to be a push by the Sussex PR team.

Have now been able to access the Telegraph story

https://archive.is/2NaPo

The Telegraph says it is a Home Office source.

Harry's friend's comments

https://archive.is/kGjJ3

Wow thank you. This is the first time I have felt sorry for her past (when you’ve summarised all her early years in one go).

I don’t feel sorry for her present at all though, they have had plenty of time, advice and opportunities to change their outcomes and they have chosen to continue bulldozing forward.

Also I am shocked by the songbird coat of arms anecdote if that is accurate. How utterly ungracious and unbecoming that was. But I chuckle when I think of how cartoon-like the bird might have looked.

Thanks @IAmATorturedPoet, no idea why the link isn’t working? , takes me straight there! 🤷‍♀️ , here are the screenshots.

Such a victim !!

I think this story about security has been planted to distract from the events of the last few days - the Variety article, the NF guy (Ted somebody) unfollowing M etc.

That article makes no sense. What security arrangement is or is not going to get "reinstated". They have a security arrangement, just not the one that they want, but that isn't made clear in the article.

And what has H's security got to do with Edward's stables?

This sounds like a Sussex- sourced hit on the RF, rather than reporting. A similar article, using exactly the same "facts" and phrases appeared in the Telegraph.

As I understand it, there is airport-type security in the High Court

This is true. Harry’s trial was at the Royal Courts of Justice on the Strand in London. To enter any on the entrances to the court buildings there you have to put your bags through an X-ray, walk through a scanning machine and demonstrate that any liquids you have are just drinks (you have to take a sip of them, in other words).

It’s clearly a very carefully researched and written article. “The Duke, who lives in Florida…” 🙄

Was just about to post that @Serenster - did someone's copywriter have a moment?