Beatrice and Eugenie banned from Ascot

[Viviennemary]

Beatrice and Eugenie have been banned from the royal box at Ascot and from royal events in the foreseeable future. That's according to a headline in the Daily Mail. A little part of me feels a bit sorry for them as they're not their parents. I don't like them much but they do seem to symbolise all that's wrong with the royals. Money and immense wealth and priviledge for very little return.

I have never thought they are ugly.
must be awful to have such horrible stuff said about something you can’t change.

i do hope the op will do a continuing thread,as this one has been interesting.

“It's in stark contrast to Kate who I happened to see at a work event a few months ago and, I have to say, looks very different in person - I think a lot of the media photos are clearly chosen to be in great lighting or edited somewhat”.

Meaning ?

I actually quite like both dresses there - Beatrice's especially.

That ruffle on Kate's tho is hideous in my opinion

@Bimmering What does she look like in person??
I have never seen her in the flesh. Whereas I see PW maybe 3-4 times a year and he looks pretty much like he does on TV - maybe a bit taller in person.

She looks very much better in the photos I see in the media than in real life. She must be popular with the tabloids.

She looks really really thin in real life. Like you can't really see her if she turns sideways. I thought she was heavy handed with the blusher in photos but you can see it's just her cheekbones in real life. And very tired.

I agree William looks much the same in photos as in real life

Why oh why did Eugenie wear those ghastly ankle strap shoes in the photo you posted @TheAutumnCrow ?
It’s a lesson on what not to wear if your ankles are a little thickish.
You’d think Beatrice would have given her a heads up ☹️

What did she look like?
She looks painfully thin in photos so if she’s even thinner in real life that’s really not great.

I think every single outfit is a fail in this one save the powder blue (who is the lady actually wearing the powder blue? Not Amanda Kelly?) the cut of the style Beatrice is wearing is too aging and dowdy. Kate's asymmetric frill draws too much attention to her top half leaving an unbalanced impression - if she had hips it would be more balanced, but she doesn't as such - and Eugenie has a great bust, but a high round neck does her no favours, plus the pattern on the cuffs combined with the skirt hem and high neck shortens her arms and torso.

I have seen Kate in real life, but this was some time before her recent illness and she looked good, people in the crowd commented on how pretty she was. Yes the blusher was quite standout, I do agree with that impression, but the rest of her makeup harmonised really well.

That said - and it's my personal opinion - I have always thought she looked better before she became officially engaged to William, when she carried a bit more weight and had a fuller figure and face. She looked about a size 12, and it really suited her (think back to her runway student fashion walk at uni) my personal opinion is she seemed to become determined to be ultra slim since then, probably influenced by fear of ever receiving any unflattering images and commentary in the media, (which, who wouldn't be, seeing how terribly Fergie was treated by the press about her weight) and by the time of the wedding her dress didn't quite hit the mark anymore around the bosom - my speculation is she had lost a lot of weight between the engagement and the wedding itself, so the bust was no longer as full and it looked too pinched (cannot think of a better word) around the bust, as if it had been altered quite close to the day. Nothing unusual for brides to lose weight before a wedding, but she carried on in the same vein. Which is all well and good and it's her life, but as one gets older, being very thin can sometimes - not always - have a tendancy to make you look older than you are, a bit haggard and a bit frail. It's good for older women to have a little bit more weight, although this does not apply to now where she is clearly still recovering from significant health challenges.

Edited for spelling

Interesting.

Although I really like Meghan’s style. I’m not surprised she doesn’t have a stylist, she doesn’t need one.

Eugenie is very ‘handsome’ and striking looking. I find Beatrice’s dress sense looks expensive but unstylish. The clothes wear her. Her hair is so striking, she doesn’t need the heavily patterned clothes that wear her. She would look so much better in simpler clothes.

Is it just my eyesight or is Eugenie's dress lots of coloured clothes pegs topped with spooky faces?

Eugenie probably likes a bit of alternative, retro inspired fashion, a girl after my own heart in that regard, but it's hard to swing that sort of look in the ultra conservative events she attends. I don't know of a high end designer that produces kooky designs that can still float at high end events and that would also match her figure.

I think Catherine needs a bit of a makeup makeover. We all get into a routine and it’s good as you get older to get some new ideas. I find her eye makeup very harsh. She has very pretty eyes, there’s no need for all that dark eyeshadow.

who is the lady actually wearing the powder blue?

The Duchess of Gloucester.

You don't understand the protocol of Royal dressing as regards others ?

@TightlyLacedCorset For many years she was a smoker. I know she stopped while pregnant and presumably post cancer diagnosis but smoking has a habit of catching up with you, face-wise.

Harsh to judge fashion from more than about 5 years ago now. Unless very very bland and dull, everything looks out of date. Looking back now at what Princess Diana wore in the 1980s and 1990s - including her wedding dress - much of it was awful.

I’m not offering a classic ‘fashion’ critique of B&E’s clothes.

I’m interested in their agency and clothing as symbols; and how B&E were (are?) offering up a statement of where they imagine themselves to fit in royal life. They appear to be presenting themselves as ‘stand out’.

Where I see ‘discordant’, I can imagine B&E thinking and hearing ‘exceptional’, ‘over and above’, and ‘unique’. The context isn’t just fashion per se, it’s their immediate gushing family, the wider royal family, and class.

The textile montages wear them.

Well that’s news to me ; I have never seen any reports of Catherine smoking . DD1 was at St Andrews at the same time as W and C and was a bit bemused with your claim.

It's only personal opinion, and I am not criticising her, but I think Catherine looked her best late on in her pregnancies (past the sicky phase). A fuller face really suited her and, at the tine, her hair was a bit shorter- I remember a photo where she just looked really bonny (maybe 2018 BAFTAs?).
Now, of course she is still well-dressed and elegant, but her weight loss shows in her face and she's also overwhelmed by just too much hair. However, if she's happy, then all good.

Woukd you suggest six inches?

I’ve never seen anything suggesting Catherine smokes/smoked. I know that Harry, Eugenie and Camilla (obviously!) used to smoke. I suppose Harry still smokes cannabis.

Eugenie smoked and Fergie smoked too.

I remember reading both Wiliam and Harry smoked. The palace do everything to keep Kate and William's images clean along with the other main royals including all they kept hidden about Andrew.

What event were Kate, the Duchess of Gloucester, Beatrice and Eugenie going to in the photo you posted @TheAutumnCrow ?
I agree with you @simpsonthecatthat Eugenie’s dress looks like it has coloured clothes pegs and spooky faces printed on it.
Who is it by, I wonder ?
It’s pretty ghastly. Or should I say ghostly 😀

I remember googling the topless photos of Kate at the time, and she was smoking in them. They've all been removed from the internet now.

The royals don’t understand the way the literal dressing appears to different groups in society - or don’t care.

In Scotland, the adoption of tartan the moment the border is crossed is regarded by many that notice it as at best ludicrous and at worst patronising contemptuous nonsense - totally tone deaf.