Beatrice and Eugenie banned from Ascot

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Beatrice and Eugenie have been banned from the royal box at Ascot and from royal events in the foreseeable future. That's according to a headline in the Daily Mail. A little part of me feels a bit sorry for them as they're not their parents. I don't like them much but they do seem to symbolise all that's wrong with the royals. Money and immense wealth and priviledge for very little return.

Even when Angela Kelly dressed them for a wedding, they still looked as if the clothes were wearing them not the other way round. I’ve never known another pair of wealthy, privileged women who, knowing they were going to be on TV, would look so pantomimey so consistently, to the point I wondered if they were doing it deliberately à la Markle.

That’s what they’ll probably be long remembered for alongside the dodgy financial shenanigans and family dramas. It doesn’t surprise me that they’re suspected of being wrong ‘uns. They have sought the limelight for a long time, when the nature of their lives would be better served by discretion. Arrogant and dim like their parents, I’m afraid.

I remember that bikini photo too- god she looked like she was having fun and wasn’t fat- just not the super thin Kate Moss bodyshape.

The 00s were not a good time if you had hips.

That look from AMW!!

Not sure he's in a position to criticise anyone's choice of wife!

Even when Angela Kelly dressed them for a wedding, they still looked as if the clothes were wearing them not the other way round.

What wedding was that?

@TheAutumnCrow- I’m going to do my regular fighting the tide and say I thought apart from the hat - Beatrice’s outfit for Williams wedding was lovely. Tasteful, fitted her well etc. the hat was a mistake that while the forehead seated hats was fashionable at the time, you needed height and confidence to pull off. That hat ruined the outfit.

Eugenie’s outfit however, didn’t fit her. I’m not sure how anyone dressing her could have missed they had put her in something so ill fitting. It wasn’t a forgiving enough outfit to get away with that.

(My other big take away from W&Cs wedding that no one agrees with me over was Harrys terrible posture. He looked like a sulky teen. But everyone else seems to think he looked amazing, he needed to stand straight.)

apart from the hat - Beatrice’s outfit for Williams wedding was lovely.

I agree with that.

Beatrice came in for a lot of flak but wtaf was the designer thinking?

I always felt so bad for them during William’s wedding. I don’t think the outfits were necessarily bad, it was the hats that made them look a bit ridiculous. But the online trolling was horrific! Does anyone remember the meme comparing them to the Ugly Stepsisters in Disney’s Cinderella?

I wish I could remember where I read it - a post, an article, a blog, or even on MN perhaps.

The author suggested thslat the hats were means to draw attention and provoke ridicule and to signal how little they thought of thd union. As in, we can't stop our cousin marrying a middle-class Middleton, but we don't have to dress respectfully. In other words, the hats were meant as a sartorial snub to Catherine.

Well, that backfired on the pair. Those photos will only look more ridiculous as the years pass, whereas PC is aging gracefully into her role as a senior royal.

For goodness sake. They’d have to be extremely petty if so.

Beatrice's hat was designed by Philip Tracy and was sold on eBay for in excess of £81,000 after the wedding. The proceeds were split between Unicef and Children in Crisis.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-13495705

Nope I’m calling bullshit on that one - their own mother was a non-royal marry in. They will have not been raised to consider a non-titled marriage for William was unacceptable. Particularly as Camilla was Charles’ wife by then. Also terribly middle class.

I think the hats were just made by such a big name designer and the girls were lacking in confidence enough to say no to what the very famous designer came up with.

I’m in complete agreement with you here Cathy , it was his ego and insufferable attitude that wanted security for his “blood princesss” daughters rather than protection .

Zara’s to Mike Tindall. B&E’s costumes were apparently designed and put together by QE2’s dresser and pal Angela Kelly.

Here’s a link to the utterly cringe Hello coverage to delight us even longer.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/brides/860409/princess-beatrice-wedding-guest-mini-dress-zara-tindall/

I maintain that it's mostly weight driven. Yes those are silly hats but if they were as thin as Kate, it would have been seen as whimsical.

Beatrice's press got a lot better when she lost weight and for a while there was more suggestions about her having a royal role.

Would Kate have the same popularity if she was a size 16? Absolutely not, I think. Depressing but true

Looks like they said a big fuck you to MM as well then!

I didn’t know Angela Kelly was also a designer. I did like Bs coat dress and her make up was nice on that day. Her fashion is a bit hit and miss but not awful. Apart from the hat of course!

I thought they looked quite normal for Harry and MM’s wedding. Which makes a change from the weddings of William&C and Zara&M.

https://people.com/royals/royal-wedding-princess-beatrice-priness-eugenie-hat-photos/

My mistake-it was the Tindall's wedding.

Beatrice has a stylist, and she rarely gets it wrong now. Eugenie and Meghan could do with a few tips,

“ Princess Beatrice's primary stylist is Olivia Buckingham, a Hong Kong-born fashion stylist and contributor to Vogue Hong Kong. She has been credited with transforming the princess's style since 2019, steering her toward a more modern, high-fashion, and polished look”

omg that "hat " is dreadful.

I actually liked the hat (and the whole outfit) it was very striking and Beatrice carried it well. I do not personally understand the vitriol (towards the hat!!).

There are other photos of the pair of them in public, knowingly being filmed and photographed for tv and newspapers, looking like they’re being worn by their costumes while their striking facial features - enhanced by their makeup - fight back for dominance.

Nothing necessarily to do with body types (though I’m not naive about the shittiness of the tabloids), but rather that together as a duo they look objectively strange. (Check out the matching, towering high heels at the Tindall nuptials.) And it has been a pattern.

I’m really interested in the anthropology of style and dress, and semiotics. Clothing is a language of signs and symbols and B&E seem to be using theirs in an intriguing and convoluted way to stand out and look exceptional while conforming to a family code.

These clothes are speaking to me …

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I actually don't think they do look "objectively strange" - I don't like everything they wear, but I do like the Tindall wedding outfits actually and both wedding dresses

I think Kate quite often has some questionable style choices - I remember a very fussy ribbony pastel blue outfit to Ascot one year and there's some hilariously blatant literal dressing a lot of the time (in Scotland, now tartan, in Ireland or with Irish guards, green etc) - which I would suggest are quite strange too...

I think it reminds me a lot of the Ed Miliband bacon sandwich thing - it was a slightly awkward photo but not really that big a deal, the press just latched onto it. The press did the same with the fascinators - decided to pedal a thing about the Ugly Sisters and make it a running gag and post as many unflattering photos as possible. I think they are both quite striking women but when there is a determination to take unflattering photos and repeatedly post them, there's not much you can do.

It's in stark contrast to Kate who I happened to see at a work event a few months ago and, I have to say, looks very different in person - I think a lot of the media photos are clearly chosen to be in great lighting or edited somewhat