Beatrice and Eugenie banned from Ascot

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Beatrice and Eugenie have been banned from the royal box at Ascot and from royal events in the foreseeable future. That's according to a headline in the Daily Mail. A little part of me feels a bit sorry for them as they're not their parents. I don't like them much but they do seem to symbolise all that's wrong with the royals. Money and immense wealth and priviledge for very little return.

I remember when a ‘source’ in an investigative piece meant something. And the use of a source was only part of the story, and the information they provided was investigated. The word has now become so overused and misused that it’s hard to believe in any source mentioned, especially in tabloid articles that are little more than gossip.

I bring you the gift of … (drum roll) … Nadine Dorries on Beatrice & Edo.

Link and archive link:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15672219/NADINE-DORRIES-church-encounter-Edo-cotswolds-think-beatrice-save-marriage.html

https://archive.ph/yjohf

That paints a very sad picture of Beatrice. The husband does look like a right player.

Nadine Dorries quotes a source saying that Edo is a ‘prick’. (I’ve removed the twee asterisks because they bugger up the MN formatting.) And immature.

I remember all the gushing on the York family social media (mostly Sarah, and Eugenie) when B&E got engaged. Edo was definitely seen by the House of York as a welcome addition to the firm-within-a-firm.

I guess what goes around comes around.

Nadine Dorries makes Beatrice sound like a nice person..

I think Edo will stick around as long as there is money.... If she has a generous trust fund from the queen he'll stay. Any financial stress and he'll be off. Just my prediction.

Edo is a pretty boy and he knows it!

I was surprised when they got engaged. All the older boys at his school thought he was an arrogant prick, and that kind of reputation tends to be based on a solid foundation at a school like Radley, where arrogant pricks are not in short supply.

Also, I wasn’t aware that Andrew and Sarah knew Edo’s parents (and were supposedly old friends) until I read the Dorries article.

So they all knew the cut of Edo’s jib.

Would it be unkind of me to wonder if that meant that the Yorks knew he was suitably griftable?

I just found it all a bit hasty. She was with that Dave bloke for very many years, and it all finished, then it seemed no time she was getting married to this Italian. And had his relationship with the mother of his child actually broken down?

I hope to goodness he is literally just on a work trip and this is all rubbish, two small children and her position with dodginess will be so hard for her. And I am not a fan of either of the daughters, but break ups in her circs will be massively messy.

He is barely Italian btw. Brought up in England by his mother and her husband, Christopher Shale (who died in a toilet at Glasto, pretty horrific).
The whole Italian aristo link has been augmented by the DM to make him sound more interesting than just your average posh Brit.

A lot of us chose partners unwisely but are able to deal with the fall-out in private. To have one's marriage picked apart like a piece of carrion by all and sundry must be dreadful.

If the marriage breaks down then, unless Edo has substantial personal assets to split with Bea, Charles and then William will need to provide for her financially. Her parents have no money and C and W won’t want a princess a) taking shady money or b) living on benefits while they have untold wealth. So the king of the day will have to fund her.

I think this will hasten the titles at birth to be streamlined as without HRH Princess titles the York girls would be simply the king’s nieces, cousins etc and seem more distant to the crown so the monarch will be less impacted by any scandals extended family are embroiled in. QEII having such a long reign and big family balcony appearances meant that her whole direct line have become well known and linked to the crown.

Sounds like her Dad. People often marry someone ‘familiar’ in character to their parent.

If the marriage breaks down then, unless Edo has substantial personal assets to split with Bea, Charles and then William will need to provide for her financially. Her parents have no money and C and W won’t want a princess a) taking shady money or b) living on benefits while they have untold wealth. So the king of the day will have to fund her.

As well as no doubt having some substantial trust funding behind her, she's supposed to be some high flying tech guru/career girl isn't she?

Why might the taxpayer who funds the 'king of the day' have to indirectly fund yet another hanger-on?

B was with Dave Clark for 10 years but - allegedly- he was dragging his heels about getting married so they parted company only for him to get engaged and married in less than 2 years . That must have hurt . And then her younger sister got married .
I am not suggesting she was desperate but her biological clock was ticking .
As an aside , W and C didn’t like Dave Clark and he wasn’t invited to their wedding .

I do feel sorry for B. I think she is possibly guilty of some dodgy finances but look at the role models she grew up with. Even if these stories are just tabloid nonsense, it’s not very nice to have your marriage analysed by the media on top of everything that’s happened with your parents.

It’s not only B’s marriage that is under scrutiny if you believe anything on X . Lots of stuff about Jack’s alleged activities.

I’ve always though Edo was a bit of a cad, I remember posting similar at the time, Jack appeared more genuine, I enjoyed watching their wedding he seemed so nervous and Eugenie looked incredibly happy, it’s a shame if he turns out to be a fair weather husband as Edo seems to be.

I just found it all a bit hasty.

It was almost two years when they married.

I don't think that that is particularly hasty given their ages & that they already knew each other

Dorries probably has well-placed sources so the article has credibility.

He was a prestige-hunter who’s likely to do a runner now.

I hope that B has friends around her. People said some nice things to Nadine Dorries for the article, so I guess she does.

However, if she is guilty of any financial wrongdoing wrt Epstein she needs to be investigated and face the consequences irrespective of how much of a prick her husband is. I hope that this article wasn’t planted by her team in order to curry sympathy.

Here’s Amanda Platell:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-15674295/amanda-platell-princess-beatrice-edo-mapelli-mozzi-marriage-trouble.html

Archive link:

https://archive.ph/C8rgv

Bea is named hundreds of times in the Epstein Files released by the US Department of Justice, and we are still yet to see the real extent of her association with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein and perhaps her willingness to turn a blind eye while the billionaire was allegedly helping to fund her parents’ largesse.
How will any of that wash with Edo’s millionaire clientele or his noble Italian family?
Sorry for stating the obvious, but keen royal watchers like me have always worried that this mismatch would end in tears.
Maybe I’m wrong and it was love that motivated them both. All I’ll say is that Edo seems to have done very well out of marrying Bea.
But should we now feel sorry for the poor Princess, struggling with alleged marriage difficulties and family turmoil? Not a bit. She, like her parents Andrew and Fergie, has drunk deep on her royal status, greedily enjoying every privilege her HRH title endowed upon her.
Now it’s time for a reckoning – and I don’t expect to hear many violins playing softly in the background in sympathy for the Princess.

Not as sympathetic as the Dorries piece, and possibly a taste of things to come for both Bea and Eugenie.

I imagine both writers know a lot, and are putting out feelers.

Maybe that ethics check wasn’t such a bad idea after all !

It makes one wonder how much Bea and Eugenie are covering up financially not just for themselves but for others.

If there’s nothing to see, open the books. Somebody must do their accounts annually.

I think they’ll rue the day that they rejected the opportunity to be transparent - they could easily have pleaded naivety and the misfeasance of their parents, done some proper charity work, and said sorry.

Ouch that Platell article is brutal.

I just saw a clip from the Times Royal podcast where Kate Mansey was saying she had gone to meet SF and was surprised to find Beatrice there. She said B was very involved in the conversation and the discussion about what SF wanted from a potential interview. She seemed to provide her dm a lot of support. It raises the question about how much Beatrice knew about her parents’ dodgy affairs.

I found it quite hasty, too, and thought it was a rebound relationship. When I looked, though, I think some time had passed since the Dave breakup.

Maybe she'd asked Dave about a timeline for marriage and children, it then became clear he didn't want that with her, they split and she was worried about being too old to have kids. Then Mr European aristocracy came along.