Should Beatrice and Eugenie voluntarily give up their titles if they want any public respect ever again?

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Just that really.
I think the only possible way forward for them is to choose to give up the princess thing, make a brief public statement in support of victims and to end their middle east business jaunts.

Well then, there isn’t a single author you trust. How do you think they’re paid? And don’t you realise the publishers’ libel lawyers would have been all over that book? If it wasn’t true, Andrew and Sarah would have sued them for every penny they could get.

Have you read the book which lists and credits his verified sources?

Do you think the Windsor lawyers haven't crawled all over it?

Why would anyone be ashamed about a surgery scar?

No, but it massively increases your chances if you are brought up around horses, equestrian sports are part of your family's lifestyle and money to buy good horseflesh is readily available.

Do you think that the little girl from the local council estate has just as much chance of she has equal talent?

No. They haven’t done anything and the royal family and the public should be rallying around them at this time to make sure they have all the emotional support they need. Everyone should be judged by their record. And theirs is a clean sheet of paper with nothing on it.

I haven’t read through the thread.

But I think so - now that we have learned that they accompanied their dad to meetings in the Middle East where he exchanged sensitive defence and financial in formation.

I saw this update this evening.

But surely she will have had the very best horses, training and sponsorship due to her family connections?

Plus the influence of a grandmother who had Cavalry regiments and racehorse trainers on speed dial

No, it’s highly unfair to drag them into it.

Isn’t the utter humiliation enough for them?

Leave them alone

They have been humiliated enough!

What have they done?…

No of course I don’t where did I suggest otherwise? Of course if you are born into money you have better chances and opportunities at anything in life. I doubt Taylor Swift would have reached the stratospheric heights she has without very wealthy devoted highly ambitious parents, Lance Stroll’s father bought a Formula One team and gave him the drive, Lando Norris, again extremely wealthy parents, I could go on. Zara is not an outlier, it’s the way of the world.

I read somewhere that they dont have high flying jobs so the source of their wealth is a little unknown ...... lots of question marks around it - so this also needs looking into. They were also in contact with Epstein. Anyone connected to Epstein and Andrew who has wealth needs checking to see if the wealth stemmed from Epstein or his empire. If it did then this begs the question what was given in return. Follow the money. If they have nothing to hide then they wont mind being checked. Any questions about whether they give up their status and titles should follow on from the checks.

Being Royal didn’t hinder Zara for sure. But even given all the advantages, as she surely has been, it’s only fair to recognise that she is an exceptional rider to have reached the standard she has. Both her parents were also skilled event riders.

Check out her father. Yes the money and access to various horses helped a huge amount, but not totally. Don't forget she was dropped from Beijing because her horse was injured. Many many Olympians have advantages because of family or other connections.

How many Olympians have the good luck of parents able to support them? How many live near sports facilities? How many have done sports at school? Eg water polo? Rowing? No one gets to the Olympics on their own.

They’ve clearly benefited from the money thrown at their parents either by Epstein (their mother) or deals their father cut on the back of the abuse of his power and access. I’d say they’re tainted by their own acceptance of that money.

well we dont know if Charles is fond of them or not. But beyond being a royal family, they are family. May be he is just fond of them because they are nieces. Wouldnt it be nice for families to have positive relationships all around?

He hasn't been sued for libel so that's a pretty good indication what's in the book is true. No publisher would touch it with a bargepole if it hadn't been checked over by libel lawyers as they would aslo be responsible.

Even if only half of what's in the book is true, it's more than enough to paint a picture.

It’s been rumoured for a while. How true, who knows?

I would be genuinely shocked if that was the case.

Of course they should be removed and if they had sense they should do it voluntarily

I'm not seeing why they need to pay for their dads sins?

It's very hard for daughters of sex perverts as it is. Everyone always wondering if he was pervy to them in any way.

Mind you I'm not reading up on the daughters.

You should read up on them and you might change your thinking. I don’t think they should pay for their fathers sins, but they should their own.