Should Beatrice and Eugenie voluntarily give up their titles if they want any public respect ever again?

[Sweetiedarling7]

Just that really.
I think the only possible way forward for them is to choose to give up the princess thing, make a brief public statement in support of victims and to end their middle east business jaunts.

Yes they overspent by all accounts but you said their family funds had been enriched and from all accounts they don't have family funds. B&E are reported to have inherited money and I'm assuming their husbands aren't penniless. Let's hope they don't follow their parents example.

family funds had been enriched and from all accounts they don't have family funds

I don't understand the point you are making - the fact that the money has been spent by the family does not mean that it didn't exist or isn't relevant.

In am not minimising anything, I already said there was no excuse. It's a burden my auntie and the rest of us will always carry and I certainly don't need to justify myself to you.

The only reason I brought it up was because I was being accused of saying that anyone who had lunch with someone after they've been to prison is accountable for their crime or some such rubbish. But I'm not going to respond to any more personal accusations either.

I'm not accusing B&E of any crime when it comes to Epstein, unlike their father. But they chose to mingle with him as a convicted sex offender and presumably there was an agenda behind that. What did they gain from it. That's all I'm interested in.

Neither of them need to be 'working royals', they are both married to wealthy men and no doubt have money in their own right, can be independent of the family.

I'm not convinced the husbands are super wealthy.

The property developer's accounts are filed with exemptions for small business plus he recently lost a contract in Australia when the company behind the project went into administration along with another cosy contract to gussy up RL (the way the royals keep awarding lucrative contracts among themselves is something else I'd like looked at.)

Brooksbank is basically a glorified estate agent.

I do agree B&E probably have some hefty family money behind them though.

You say that you got my point, but none of the above is actually relevant to the point, so I'm not so sure.

The general consensus seems to be that their grandmother left all 8 GC money and their great grandmother had a trust for the GGC. So unless the pair of them have inherited their parents spending habits, they should be well enough set.

They aren't working Royals so should give up their grace and favour appartments and titles. They benefit greatly without putting anything back.

And come clean on who funded their constant holidays in their 20s

They should all give them up. Then boot them out of the country.

And come clean on who funded their constant holidays in their 20s.

I think only the king/future kings children should have a title. Only prince Charles children (William and Harry) and William's children. I don't think Harry's children or princess Anne's (they don't anyway), Andrews or Prince Edwards children should have a title.

No! They've done F All wrong.

I agree they should give up their titles which are wholly unnecessary. They were also mired in this. Beatrice even advised her father over the Newsnight interview, met Epstein with her mother after he got out of prison and traded off her father’s dodgy contacts in the UAE, using her title. They aren’t responsible for their parents of course but they are tarnished irrevocably by association and need to put some clear water between them if they want to recover reputationally.

They are mentioned in the emails meeting up with Epstein after he was released from prison. They were 19 and 20 but I think they just went along with their mum and wasn't involved with any of it. Still it was all over the news about him so they could have refused to go.

You might want to think about the victims. They went to lunch with a paedo
They have taken money from well off people from The Middle East.
One of them told Andrew to lie about Pizza Express. She also helped her mum write a grovelling letter to Epstein. Told Fergie Grovelling was the best bet.
They showed People Epstein's friends around Palaces as a favour. So you are happy to ignore this.

I.dont have a problem with them keeping their titles and feel sorry for them having such awful parents. However I their circumstances I would, for the sake of good pr, give up my title voluntarily, live a modest lifestyle. They'll still have privileges but best to not ram it down the public's throats.

"respect" ha ha ha

No because we are no longer in the Victorian times where the acts of 1 family member causes everyone to become social outcasts.

Agree with other posters stop witch hunting against 2 women who have their own families because their dad is terrible and their mother has dodgy judgement and took them at 18 for dinner!

'Keeping your head down' when victims of appalling abuse have died without seeing justice done isnt ok, particularly if you’ve indirectly benefitted from the spoils of daddys very rich paedophile friends. And partied with them, entertained them, been hosted by them etc. Making a public stand against abuse and rejecting the system that has made it possible is the right thing to do

I don't think they should give up their titles and I don't think Andrew should have either. I kinda feel like if you're queens child, you're a prince and you can't be fired unless there is a revolution. I hope he ends up in prison but I also think if there are royals then you need to accept the bad ones having a title aswell cause it is their birthright.

I'm sick of people defending them. Beatrice had 13 holidays in one year on a salary of 19,200. Not just cheap and cheerful ones either. Of course the knew once they were old enough and therefore complicit.

That's wrong. It was actually 17 holidays!

I agree. I think they're money grabbing grifters like their leach of a mother.

They should have been arrested years ago for wearing those awful hats at Will & Kate’s wedding imho. They had a choice there too!

If they weren’t in the York family they’d be regarded with sympathy, as young women tangled up in a very sinister and awful business by their parents.