Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy Part 3

[simpsonthecat]

Here we are

Previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5487636-andrew-continuing-his-effort-to-end-the-monarchy-part-2?page=20&reply=150676336

The late Queen and Mandelson overruled Prince Charles to give AMW trade envoy role
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/2173263/peter-mandelson-andrew-mountbatten-windsor/amp

It really doesn’t end. I’m sorry if it’s behind a paywall, not sure how to make it available. But the headline says it all really.

Met protection told to guard Epstein dinner in New York www.thetimes.com/article/5ea04cac-c205-47b9-8808-0457d092d195?shareToken=7e91f192d45013771e88e9a8a68bf378 Andrew’s Met protection told to guard Epstein dinner in New York www.thetimes.com/article/5ea04cac-c205-47b9-8808-0457d092d195?shareToken=7e91f192d45013771e88e9a8a68bf378

So Peter Loughborough- personal secretary to Charles and Camilla- was in charge of Royal Protection officers and instructed some of then to effectively act as bouncers at Epstein’s house in NY.

Deluxe toe sucking?

How would the RAF flights get approved? I understand that AMW might have asked but he should have been told to politely fuck off. Who would have had agreed to this and authorise it?

You've got to wonder if the freebies for Fergie will dry up now that she is so tainted and outside the royal tent or if the Epstein-level of rich people will still have a solidarity in mutual awfulness with her?

Fergie, Beatrice and Eugenie seem to make an awful lot of money out of being living, breathing letters of introduction between the amoral rich. Do the husbands have the real jobs they profess to have or are they all about 'attracting investors'? I'm guessing Beatrice and Eugenie will still be well-connected and lucrative enough for the marriages to survive.

Their husbands aren’t really getting what they signed up for any more ie being royal adjacent. Whether they walk away depends on how entangled they are in the deals I suppose.

@NoDrums archive link here https://archive.is/Fdtlj

I think Andrew will talk.. he will do anything to save himself. The police will certainly push. Watch this space. .. he will take many others in very high places down.

Thank you for starting this new thread, just placemarking!

I’m not sure he will save himself though. That’s the whole point. He most likely doesn’t want to end up like Epstein.

Oh my God.

It is starting to look as if the people responsible just looked away. I’ve read so much I can’t recall where I read this but when the PPOs said something about Andrew bringing women to BP, a senior officer in the Met had said they should shut up and that the privacy of whom they were protecting had to be protected.

Fealty and subservience to the Crown in true feudal style. I can really see now why AMW acted with impunity - he absolutely got away with anything because the UK was his playground. Those Times and DT articles are worth a read, if you haven’t read them already.

Apparently, last year, Eugenie's anti-trafficking charity spent more than double on wages than it did on projects.

Im not really that interested in the people like Andrew who were involved with Epstein, justice for them will hopefully be served. My interest lies in the people who turned a blind eye or facilitated this. It’s fascinating. How could the whole of the establishment not have know what was going on or more to the point, not have cared? And why?!

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Thank you @bluegreygreen!!! Again :-)

I need to figure out how to do this.

I"m assuming if SF did something (PR etc ) whilst she was the Duchess and royal adjacent for that clinic they have probably given her that for a freebie. Whether it's the full £13000 night package , no idea . But , speculation;ation on my part , these freebies will dry up quite quickly. Because who wants to go where SF goes? Pure speculation on my part - freely admit. I don't mix in those circles.

I read it was £13k a night, that's really going to help her financial situation! How can this possibly help in a way that an normal hotel wouldn't? Ridiculous.

She’s certainly not very relatable now , what with her desperately wannabe social climbing and expensive tastes.

@AreYouSureAskedNaomi
Epsteins private jet was given permission
to land at RAF Morham - 20 miles from Sandringham. Hopefully records will show who gave that permission.

@NoDrums

This is what I do -

To archive links:
I copy the link, go to an archive website (I use https://archive.is), first search for saved snapshots, if available click on the thumbnail picture to go to them and copy the short archive link in the address bar to use.
If no snapshots are available I use the section saying 'I want to archive' - it takes much longer, especially for a recent article in a paper that runs adverts.
Hope this helps.

I mean, it's bold of you to tell me what the people in my country think and feel and relate to. But yes, as much as it irks some of you, Meghan is still very liked in many places, certainly more than the toxic family she married into.

Quick question though - who has more expensive tastes than the RF? And why is that in itself something to be hateful towards Meghan for?

And also, I might be slow, but if money and social climbing were the goal, I'd think Meghan would do everything to stay in the RF. It doesn't get more socially stratospheric .and obscenely wealthy than that.

Those reasons sounds a little bit like jealousy, but I digress. There are much more important things to discuss and Meghan's alleged profligacy isn't even in the top 10.

So she’ll rack up a £1million bill by 11 weeks if she’s lucky.

That’s how she wazzes through money. In fact given her ‘extras’ and First Class travel, I think she’ll hit the million pound mark after 6-8 weeks tops.

According to the Daily Mail a whistle blower has come forward to say that the RF were informed in 2019 that AMW was abusing the RF name in secret deals.
So were Charles and William aware 7 years ago?