How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?

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Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

You could say the same on the H&M discussions, a debate about her jam business is normally interrupted with but but Andrew fairly promptly.

A bit like the people who say we have to keep the monarchy or we’ll have President Farage.
They have a point 😂

Of course they do.But most working parents can’t take all of all of their children’s school holidays off work, though. And announcing the fact that’s what they’re doing is tactless, surely? Not good PR.

Frankly, selling the extremely gullible shit overpriced jam isn’t as bad as a bit of sex trafficking and insider trading!

I agree.

That’s 6 weeks. Private schools in the UK tend to get at least 15 weeks holiday. And in my experience of American friends often the wage earner commutes to work from their holiday for some of that time.

So they saw the photographer drive past their house and instead of calling their minions / foot soldiers to see off said photographer they went out on their bikes with their children??

Anyway I understand their new house has a 3 mile exclusion zone around it. A luxury not available to the lowly peasants.

Totally agree. I imagine they have 16 weeks holiday off school per year and Kate & William rarely do anything during these weeks unless it is imperative

Yes I know before anyone says they are doing it differently for their children. Just not sure BOTH parents need to be there 'for the children'

I saw the videos he posted - that guy came across as a really creepy stalker. He followed the Wales family at low speed in his car attempting to photograph their kids while William and Kate were having a bike ride without security on a narrow country lane. In the William was forced to stop and call for security so that Kate could get the kids home.

That is not what happened at all! Are you being deliberately misleading?
the photographer was also on a bike ! And hiding in the bushes! 🤨

I don't think they ever said that they were taking the "school holidays off work" - they said they would be doing fewer public engagements - like many modern parents they likely work from home for part of the holidays.

I used to work from home for a substantial part of my own kids' 14-15 weeks of school holidays.

That is not what happened.

Odd that there are people on Mumsnet defending creeps following and photographing young children without parental consent.

He had a bike in the footage I saw @Lunde !

I’m not.

Of course we could both be correct, I heard this was not the first time he had done this .

Maybe I've seen a different video then. In the one I saw, only William is on screen and a bit of the photographer who is on a bike I think. No footage of the children.

I think that is the very, very end few seconds of one of the clips I've seen where William (finally) gets angry and stops to confront him to allow Kate and the kids to get away and cycle home.

There was a second one with a man in a car stalking them on a deserted lane - and you hear Kate saying she recognises him because he has been driving past their house in the background - but that clip seems to have disappeared

Yes thanks! , I knew I’d seen two different ones from the same man!! , he’s basically a stalker.

I am no particular fan of William but I don't blame him for getting angry on that occasion at his children being followed and photographed without consent.

It is ironic though that he is otherwise content for them to be regularly paraded and photographed doing royal 'work', to the extent of accepting presents from random members of the public. Very few people seem to comment on how strange this all is. Although anti-monarchists like me are accused of being hard on the RF, it is us who would like to see those children have a normal childhood and then be free to do whatever they choose to do, when they grow up.

Where did I say it was? bringing Andrew into a discussion on jam is completely irrelevant and a common attempt to shut down discussion, you have literally demonstrated exactly my point in your post.

I don’t think it’s the jam that prompts the ‘but Andrew’ responses. I think it’s the often over the top criticism of Meghan herself.

For the avoidance of doubt, it wasn’t me who first mentioned The Purveyor of Jam- it was this post.

“These anti William posts are so tedious and disingenuous. Each and every time there is a such thread it reads like a puerile attempt to elevate the couple who move to California, their names escape me.”

edited to add: Sorry, that quoted post was from @IisMaccaPacca

I don't really get why John the bloke who follows them about to engagements is being introduced to the children, and why it's so far acceptable for the kids to interact with, share selfies, and accept gifts from strangers.

The Wales must think a contained environment is safer somehow.

But if the guy who follows them for photos is also known to them now, then they know he's not a physical threat.

I suppose it's that dichotomy of wanting and needing the publicity in order to maintain both interest and visibility, and also to feed the interest in a single head of state family, but also wanting privacy so they can have a more normal life out of the public eye. So they've drawn their own line of public/private that they don't want others to cross. Problem is, others have different lines!

Now with most other celebs they keep the kids out of the public gaze full stop, so there's no ambiguity. But some royal fans are desperate to see the kids as they're growing up to see who they might be most like (comparing Charlotte to QE2, for instance), and so on, plus George is in line to be king after his dad.

I think it's an awful position to be placed in, wanting privacy for your family but also knowing your child has a job lined up so must be on show some of the time.

It the biggest thing I don't get about royalists, why they're happy for children to be publicised like this, and also that they're trained for a specific role from childhood and have pretty limited choices with regards their own lives. Why would anyone support that? Even for the wealth etc, it's a pretty strict future ahead.

When they see John, etc., it's in a work setting. I remember the photographer incident. They weren't working, they were home on their own estate.

I used to work with a coworker with mental health issues. He would constantly harass me at work. I told my boss that if he followed me home, I would get a restraining order.

Work is not the same as home. Everyone deserves one safe space.

NYC kids get multiple one day holidays as the DOE observes everything from Jewish holidays through Hindu ones. Then there is Christmas, Easter, spring break, winter recess, Thanksgiving, etc.