How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?

[Roadtripwithpretzels]

Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

I think the interview was pre recorded a number of weeks ago.

I didn’t know that and nor would many listeners.

And actually I stand by my point as the issues were exactly the same a fortnight ago.

Surely the Palace should have at least made efforts to withdraw the interview?

And it shouldn’t have gone ahead two weeks ago either!

Because he knew he’d get away with not addressing it? Because none of the media companies are prepared to risk losing access? Because he is so entitled he sees no reason why he should? Because he knows a certain section of the population is going to go all starry eyed about him making a generic point or two about mental health on (oh,he’s just like us!!) Radio 1 ( I bet he listens to Radio 1 on the school run with the kids!) or, I reckon, a mixture of all 4. Well done new PR person. Emily Maitlis addresses this in her podcast, but I haven’t listened yet.

Yes! I agree with everything Emily Maitlis says about this!

And Shelagh Fogarty has written a very fair article on this very issue for LBC:

At the heart of the Epstein scandal are women who say they were abused and exploited. Some have died; others continue to struggle with the long-term consequences of trauma and the exhausting pursuit of accountability. What damages the mental health of victims of abuse most profoundly is not only the original crime. It is the sense that powerful institutions close ranks. It is obfuscation, delay, or a refusal to confront uncomfortable truths.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that it’s female broadcasters pointing this out!

Does his support and highlighting of all good causes he’s involved with now count for nothing because his uncle is a wrongun? I mean they have come out in support of the victims, given a statement indicating support of any police investigation.

What do you want William to do specifically?

I’m in two minds, he personally though hasn’t helped or even been amicable with Andrew.

I don't understand why you are so invested in this.

If you don't like the family then stop reading about them and looking for stuff to criticise them.

VG's family had cut her off and gone no contact. She posted what should have been a private message publicly and it was untrue. That poor woman was not only exploited by Epstein, she's been exploited and used by male lawyers ever since. Her mental health had been poor for years.

Yes, Emily Maitlis talks about this in her podcast. I think they cancelled an interview ages ago because William wouldn't talk about his uncle. She talks about the reference towards to Royal family & the fact that if an MP came in & did try wouldn't talk about something it wouldn't be acceptable.

I’ve got no time for any of the royal family.

They are all complicit in this stuff. Remember how Jimmy Savile had open access to all of their homes?? Do you seriously think that they didn’t know what he was doing?

I don't understand why you are so invested in this.

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@MyTrivia Agree with you.

hahaha Have you read some of the posts in this section? We have enough sheep in this country to guarantee that the RF can pretty much do what they like and a significant number of 'subjects' will not exercise and ounce of critical thinking.

I suspect the BBC were told not to ask him about it or the interview would not go ahead. Also, unwise to discuss in public if criminal charges are being considered.

How about we stop funding them? They are parasites.

@StormyLandCloud

The issue of William and Andrew is becoming like the president Trump / Farage nonsense.
William was part of the attempted rehabilitation of Andrew.

Photos are on the internet ( for now) . William is pictured driving Andrew to church (important part of the failed image rehabilitation attempt) with Kate in the back leaning forward smiling .

The Windsors certainly knew Epstein was a convicted pedophile since his conviction in 2008.

When did William make his trite empty statement ? A few days ago- once we knew more .

William has had spokespeople ‘brief’ the media with various contradictory statements - to me it looks like PR . So one day we hear William will throw Andrew to the wolves , a few weeks later William is concerned for Andrew’s mental health.
William has a credibility problem .

All the Windsors knew . Andrew was not only protected - he’s still protected- but they tried rehabilitating Andrew’s image when Charles took over . Elizabeth had already paraded Andrew without a care in the world for his crimes . Thank god it didn’t work.

I find William insincere and cold but that’s my opinion .
I have not listened to William on the mental health pre recorded clip. Was he questioned on the issue of the mental health of Andrew’s victims?
That was a rhetorical question. I have not listened to the clip but I know he won’t have been .

It wasn’t live . It was recorded a while ago.

That’s a very fair point and I don’t think William can do much individually while his father is monarch and and that is precisely one of the reasons why the institution seems so toxic.

They all have to play along with maintaining “silence” on so many issues and now this obvious cover up. Pressure is brought to bear on individual members of the RF and their staff to prevent them from speaking out!

Look what happened to Harry! And Diana! Speaking out and criticising the institution is viewed as worse than allegedly abusing trafficked women fhs! Some of whom, according to Lownie, were very much under age.

Pressure is brought to bear to present a certain image to the world that appears to be very different to the reality behind the scenes. That in itself must be very damaging to mh?

Prince William, despite having his hands tied, could at least have recognised that doing the BBC interview was a very poor idea in the circumstances.

And he could try and effect change within the institution by speaking up a bit more! He is in a very strong position!

The more I think about this, I know there is hierarchy and protocol to consider, but I don’t understand in concrete terms what he has to lose by doing so? He will be King probably within the next decade? Is he worried about being disinherited from his father’s private fortune?

And aside from the very serious AMW issues, I am becoming a little weary of people speaking from a position of great financial privilege on issues such as homelessness and poor mental health.

It’s starting to feel rather hollow because it’s what happens when you do speak up that really matters. And we all know how mh services in the UK are massively under-resourced.

Does William not have access to statistics setting out the relationship between poor mental health and homelessness and poverty?

@Roadtripwithpretzels

Protocol is not real . It’s invented to suit whatever the Windsors want at the time

William could do and say what he wants . Charles said plenty when he was Prince of Wales
William operates at a very superficial level.

Actually, that’s a very good point!

Charles when PoW went further than some felt appropriate with his spidery letters didn’t he? Writing to senior politicians? Trying to influence planning and farming issues?

I’m invested because a cabal of powerful men, including AMW, raped and abused girls and young women for years, and I want them brought to justice.

I’m invested because our taxes help to prop up the monarchy, and their privileged status allows them to accumulate vast wealth and largely escape scrutiny. AMW’s disgusting behaviour has illuminated this for millions of people and they largely don’t like what they see. He hasn’t paid for his crimes and lies, but at least he has been exposed for the utter bastard that he is. The next step should be a proper criminal investigation and transparency about the royal family’s attempts to cover this up and to act only when it was in their own interests to do so.

I'd like him to say that he is horrified by the behaviour of his uncle and favours a full police investigation in which the royal family will ensure that all relevant information (records of visits/trips etc) is made available and that no seving royal staff have anything to fear by telling the police all they remember.

Is that specific enough for you?

What do you want William to do specifically

Publicly condemn it.

What can he say about his uncle, really? Nothing! If there is a prosecution to come, then it will be in the hands of the police and lawyers. It is ridiculous to expect the RF to be giving a running commentary. None of us would want to talk about our dodgy uncle, let's face it. William and the King still have jobs to do, and should just be allowed to get on with them.

I agree