How come William chose to ignore the massive elephant in the room and no one challenged him on it?

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Prince William spoke about the very important subject of mh yesterday on Radio One and while it’s a subject that should be highlighted, does no one else think that his credibility on this issue has now been damaged by the AMW case?

He may not have been personally responsible for the alleged cover up, and he may well loathe Uncle Andrew, but he is still a central player in the institution that helped to pay off and cover up the voices of AMW’s alleged victims? Virginia Giuffre took her own life fhs! He can’t just ignore it!

To me this interview came across as incredibly unintelligent and insensitive in current circumstances. And proof that William himself just doesn’t “get it”.

Why on earth did he not say that in the light of current circumstances and out of respect for victims; the interview couldn’t go ahead?

Or why did his new ex crisis manager PR person not advise this?

And why was he allowed to sit there by the BBC and not address this?

And what about the mh of the Palace staff who have suffered because of AMW’s boorish and inappropriate behaviour for years? The nanny who allegedly left because of AMW being inappropriate and the policeman whose arm was hurt by AMW’s speeding at Windsor? The maids who were screamed at? What about the mental health of the police protection offices who quite recently were, according to Lownie, reminded about their NDAs and the safety of their pensions if they spoke out?

I don’t think it’s good enough any longer for a senior member of the RF to sit there and say yet again in a rather generic way “we all need to talk about our mental health” while ignoring what their own institution has covered up for years and is still allegedly trying to suppress?

And the BBC should hold some accountability about this too!

Social media has been instrumental in changing the way the RF are reported on. There are Instagram accounts devoted to the younger children- particularly the girls - Mia Tindall, Savannah and Isla Phillips and princess Charlotte. Their parents must be deeply concerned about the nut jobs out there- no holds are barred about appearance, weight, school friends..
It’s a far cry from editors agreeing to leave the children alone in exchange for special occasions.

I agree.

Someone stopped the interview.

Or it wasn’t air tight.

Maybe threats from the royal family stopped it? Or maybe it was Alan Dershowitz -Epstein’s lawyer and very wealthy man? Or Clinton?

I didn’t know who in Epstein was in 2015-2016. But many people in the US would have known who Epstein was so “‘No one knows who he is’ doesn’t sound right.

When contacted by various news sources about the leaked clip (first leaked by Veritas late 2019 I think) the ABC responded to questions that they couldn’t corroborate all of the Guiffre interview. But that they had not stopped pursuing the story and were making a tv show and a 6 part documentary about it. I haven’t checked yet to see if these were aired.

For interest - there’s an article written by Dershowitz about lowering the age of consent. This is an AI summary that includes the link. I couldn’t get it to archive.

“In a 1997 Los Angeles Times op-ed titled "Statutory Rape Is an Outdated Concept," Alan Dershowitz argued that the age of sexual consent should be lowered to 15 or 14. He described existing statutory rape laws as "outdated," advocating for a "staircasing" system of penalties for sexual acts with minors. For more details on the 1997 op-ed, visit Los Angeles Times. “

(Magically the article has appeared below - No idea how I did that 😅 )

Please excuse any typos I may have made. My arthritic fingers are not co-operating with my keyboard today.

On the Xmas Sandringham walk, William introduced his kids to a stalker and he and Kate allowed their kids to take selfies and hug strangers. They also know footage of that would go straight on social media. So they can’t be that concerned. It seems using their kids for PR and likes is more important than safeguarding their kids.

Not sure what you wanted William to do? he wasn’t there to talk about his dodgy uncle

Oh look! The man who has thus far shown little sign of interest in anything non secular now reveals "a quiet faith"....prepping us nicely for his takeover as head of the CofE.

I guess the Venn diagram of believers in the monarchy and believers in a Christain god has a strong crossover.

Prince William confirms ‘quiet faith’ and new commitment to Church https://share.google/wcRGy7YZ5AaL17QrX

Williams desperation to be King is so palpable its embarrassing! That article may as well have said 'I can't be bothered to go to church, I don't believe in God but I'll tell my courtiers to put out some PR puff, because I can't get my greedy hands on that Crown without it'. Bare minimum effort from William as usual!

But then again, as with Parliament, the onus is on the party being threatened ( the press, Parliament) to refuse. In a system as deferential as ours, this is what causes the RF to be able to get away with little or no scrutiny. The only party in this whole thing with absolute power to do what they like with no sanction is the RF, and they throw their weight around, knowing that they can push and push the boundaries, waiting for a pushback they know will not come. Like institutional toddlers. Most toddlers grow up and learn self restraint, or at least a sense of right and wrong.

He is full of shit!

Hahaha that is so funny! "I may not be at church every day but I believe in it and want to support it"

It does remind me of a classic Trump interview when he was asked about his favourite bible verses
"I don't want to get into specifics" says he

Interviewer then asks "are you a New Testament guy or an Old Testament guy"

Trump... "Ummmmm.... probably equal, it's my favourite book of all time"

It’s not really unusual or dishonest for Prince William to describe his faith as “quiet.” A lot of people—especially in his generation in the UK—identify as Christian but don’t attend church regularly. That’s part of a long-term cultural shift rather than something unique to him.

I suspect he would rather have continued to keep this private, but is due to attend the installation of the Archbishop of Canterbury this week so felt obliged to make a comment.

I've said before that while I agree with constitutional monarchy, I struggle with the current set-up in the UK which in effect means that the RF have the least freedom of religious belief of anyone in the country.

There was a (brief but interesting) thread on this last year.

Do any of the RF go to church on an ordinary Sunday?
I get the feeling that they only do it on the big days.

I'm fairly sure KC3 goes regularly - I think it was mentioned in the editorial that went alongside the article about William.

I don't know about the rest.

William 'quiet faith' article
https://archive.is/7f7y3

Editorial
https://archive.is/eYesB

This bit 😮

During Welby’s 11-year tenure, he and his team repeatedly tried and failed to establish a bond with William, which baffled and frustrated Lambeth Palace.

I think he is doing this quiet faith bit because he has to. He can hardly do that anointing thing in a vest behind the curtain at the Coronation, if he doesn't.

I do really hope it isn't because Charles is more ill than we realise and this will be sooner rather than later.

The bit that I picked up was this:

Welby became a confidant to Harry and Meghan in the run-up to their 2018 wedding at St George’s Chapel, Windsor, at which he officiated, and as their tensions with the royal family escalated. (my emphasis)

If Welby tried to mediate (or interfere as W may have seen it) that could explain the lack of bond.

Re 'quiet faith' only W will know the truth. I suspect the reason for him saying something now is as I said above - as PoW he is due to attend the installation this week.

There is no quiet faith, anyone believing there is needs to give their heads a wobble.

Of course a bond couldn't be established, I expect he was annoyed at being contacted. That "irritated silence" the press talk about.

He's the next king, he needs to get over himself if this is the case, not behave like a petulant teenager.

The two brothers are more alike than royalists would like to imagine.

Ooh what a coincidence that I just read this extract in Robert Johnson’s The Windsor Legacy. Apparently they both became more religious after the cancer diagnosis. He was also seen wearing a cross when he did the Comic Relief tandem bike ride with Greg James the other day.

That's pathetic. So because the then Archbishop of Canterbury talked to Harry & Meghan before their wedding, which is quite a normal thing to do, William wouldn't have anything to do with him. How dramatic.

I thought that bit (in bold) referred to during the time afterwards, before the Sussexes left. I could be wrong.

I don't know, I read it differently, but not sure now you've said.

Apparently they both became more religious after the cancer diagnosis.

That's handy, isn't it?

What with him needing to show he's got some kind of interest in Christianity as he's going to be the head of the CofE in the not very distant future.

Bloody hell you sound like the Spanish Inquisition 🤣

Good point @Miranda65 that none of us would want to talk about our dodgy uncle and if the police are investigating AMW at the moment I’m not sure he can speak out.