Eugenie has cut contact with Andrew

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It’s being reported that Eugenie has cut all contact with her father, she refused to visit him at Xmas and isn’t speaking to him at all. There was a discussion on Good Morning Britain about whether this was to protect her own image or whether it’s about her own feelings around what Andrew has done and his refusal to apologise.

Beatrice is still in contact with him apparently, so will this cause an issue between them as sisters?

Is Eugenie just doing this to protect her own image or has the penny dropped that Andrew is a disgusting man and she now believes him to be guilty?

What do you think?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/royals/eugenie-ends-contact-disgraced-father-andrew-royals-windsor-beatrice-b1266997.html

I think she has ambitions to be a working royal when William is King. She can't be if she is linked to Andrew.

Yes, when Charles put out his statement that said ‘Their majesties wish to make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been and will remain with the victims and survivors of any and all forms of abuse’, it was as close to him saying Andrew is guilty as the RF can ever say.

^^This plus the fact that his daughters’ circle of lucrative ‘business’ contacts made through Andrew must be rapidly shrinking.
‘Contaminated by Association’ comes to mind…

I wouldn't be surprise if both sisters go no contact with both parents eventually.

A pp said sometimes it isn't until you have your own children that you realise how bad it really is.

I feel for them TBH. Yes they are very priviliged young women ,however they must feel very torn .Beatrice is still in contact with them I think .I guess like any family some will go NC in times of trouble .Some will still want to speak to DP

“You would have thought that, as a young woman/ teen herself at the time she would have been able to put herself in the place of other teens/young women. She didnt need to be a mother of very young children ( who were nothing to do with Eostein) but a teenage girl, which she was.“

I do not think it works like that.
I have a close friends whose father cheated on her mother with a school friend her age. Imagine! She had years and years of trauma from it and relationship trust issues and then therapy.
Girls of these kinds of fathers are victims too. It is very complex.

Just because someone has money and a public persona, does not mean they are a normal real person below all of that with very complex emotions. If anything, the celebrity status and obligations/duty make it all even more traumatic.

I'm not so sure Virginia could leave any time, had money and lived with them like family. I think there is a lot of spin on it. She was never the nice all American girl next door even from her own account.

they are not "young" they are late 30's

I think unless you're personally acquainted with Eugenie, it's impossible to speculate with any authority about her motives.

I highly doubt that Beatrice and Eugenie would have known back then what their father was doing

It is alleged that he used prostitutes on his trips as Uk Trade Envoy. This is separate to the accusations of underage age sex as part of his friendship with Epstein.

I agree. They have had all the public details for years. They have not shown any moral compass until now only because it will now impact their reputations and ££££. Until that balance shifted they were quite happy to support and be the fig leaf for the grifting rapist.

How long have you been working in Royal PR, OP? 😂

I agree with this. Both sisters are grifters. Neither gives much of a toss about Andrew’s activities, they’re just cheesed off with the bad publicity!

For all we know other things may have come out behind closed doors, or they’ve fallen out over something unrelated to the scandal and more to do with their own relationship.

Theres always a straw that breaks the camel’s back when someone goes NC, it’s usually after years of being mistreated or poor behaviour. I think if she has chosen to pull away, good for her. It must be extremely embarrassing to have him as a father.

All I can say is who can blame her if she has

Agree. My stance on any scandal since Saville is look closely at the bystanders.

There will always be wrong ‘uns in this world but if others turn a blind eye they have to accept responsibility for enabling, facilitating or condoning.

We will get nowhere if we don’t hold the apologists to account.

So I have Name changed to add this comment - my dad is a convicted sex offender, and it was very public trial outside of the UK.

He was also very emotionally abusive during childhood.

It was only a year so after the trial that I officially cut him off and that was largely due to the emotional abuse, from the outside it probably looked like I was supporting him, I wasn't I just didn't know how to take that no contact step. So I feel for them - especially given the added complexity of them being in the news themselves anyway.

Wouldn’t be surprised if that was a deliberate choice to distract and fudge the issue.

There’s footage of Andrew touching Eugenie inappropriately. I wouldn’t assume anything where this family is concerned, what we know is the tip of a very dirty iceberg.

Fuck me! I can’t stand any of these parasites, but Andrew is the worst of the lot. I think it’s most likely that Eugenie isn’t talking to him to try and recover her own PR. I was just interested in how other people were perceiving it.

I remember that, he sort of trailed his hand down her back and cupped her bum. Disturbing behaviour. Nothing would surprise me when it comes to Andrew.

No of course she wasnt. Otherwise she wouldn't have been targetted by Ghislaine Maxwell. Her father used to drive her aged 14 to Epsteins houses for 'massage' jobs. She was completely let down by the adults around her

I agree but he could well insist on Andrew keeping an extremely low profile and I'm not sure the creep can do that. And if he stays in this country they can keep a close eye on him whereas if he swans off to the Middle East there's no telling what he might get up to. It's the total lack of shame and his inability to apologise that makes it all so awful still.

Ignoring the first part of your comment, which doesn't really invite a sensible response, I'm struggling to understand the relevance of your last opinion here. "Never the nice all-American girl next door"?

That sounds awfully like the 'wrong type' of victim.

What is your point here?