PR disasters thread 4

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One stop shop for all As ever, Archewell, Meg n Harry disasters

And yet she was still attacked . I recall posters on here saying it was ridiculous that she was “ hiding away” , that they had had cancer and were back at work the day after surgery, that it was somehow easier for Catherine as she has money , staff etc .
Yes she is rich etc but I don’t think that would have taken away the fear of leaving her DC without a mother.

Didn't stop them attacking even after diagnosis. Didn't M say just one plane crash away from.....I only follow royal stuff on MN so i would have read it here.

There were stories online that Meghan made that comment at a private event @binkie163 . Whilst nothing would surprise me about her , I don’t think there is reliable evidence .

@OtherS This is the relevant transcript from the Oprah interview, she never mentioned the queen and Harry said he didn’t go to anyone in the family.

Meghan: And so, I went to human resources, and I said, ‘I just really — I need help’. Because in my old job, there was a union, and they would protect me. And I remember this conversation like it was yesterday, because they said, ‘My heart goes out to you, because I see how bad it is, but there’s nothing we can do to protect you because you’re not a paid employee of the institution’.

Oprah: So, were you thinking of harming yourself? Were you having suicidal thoughts?
Meghan: Yes. This was very, very clear.
Oprah: Wow.
……..

Oprah: Did you ever think about going to a hospital? Or is that possible, that you can check yourself in some place?

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Oprah: So then did you tell other people in the family, ‘I have to get help for her. We need help for her’?
Harry: No. That’s just not a conversation that would be had.
Oprah: Why?
Harry: I guess I was ashamed of admitting it to them.
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Oprah: You were ashamed of admitting that Meghan needed help?
Harry: Yeah.
Oprah: Mmm.
Harry: I didn’t have anyone to turn to.

Meg:

And so, I went to human resources, and I said, ‘I just really — I need help’. Because in my old job, there was a union, and they would protect me.

Also Meg:

I was Taft-Harteleyed, which is I pretended I was union.... and you have to... it was the pilot called Century City with Héctor Elizondo.

And I got there, and they're like - so you're union? And I'm like of course, I'm union I mean yeah absolutely. And then I wasn't. To this day those casting directors will never hire me.

I was such a fraud.

As a former union rep, I remain confused about her commitment to union status.

Trying to picture the royal family unionising for better pay and conditions.

How very, very strange to go to HR about mental health problems, rather than going to a doctor in the first instance.

Exactly . She was under the care of The Portland (?) who would have been on speed dial .

Exactly when I was suffering from work related stress I went to my GP ( made my own appointment!) and then went to HR. That is what normal people do.

I am always blown away by the fact her mother was never mentioned as ‘someone to turn to’ either by Meghan or Harry.

In hindsight, the ‘he loves me so boldly’ statement was just more of her embellishment, there can be nothing more neglectful and callous than ignoring a partners pleas for help in a mental health crises, which I think could imply that the gravity of what she said she was suffering was maybe not as dramatic as she claimed during the interview, either that or Harry really is a heartless bastard.

Ah, apologies - I relied on articles stating she claimed they informed 'the institution' she was in need of urgent medical care for her mental health, and they told her she wasn't allowed any. Which did seem odd. But then saying they went to HR rather than her doctors, and just accepted it when told no, is even odder. So I obviously blocked it out as too absurd a thing to claim, even for them! And for a spokesman for mental health awareness charities to admit he didn't seek life-saving care for his wife as he was too ashamed?! Yikes.

The reference to speaking to HR about her health just sounds ludicrous. I suspect it was Meghan's usual spread it wide/ accuse no one specifically/but say it happened tactics only this time her claims were looked at. She may have got away as a minor actress being a Walter Mitty but sitting there with OW took it all to a new dimension. She thought she could carry on with her previous games but after the initial " poor you" furore it was found out that she lied. She sat there and threw out the bait and Oprah like the greedy pig she is swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Harry sat there thinking WTF. There were both Markled.

She sat there and threw out the bait and Oprah like the greedy pig she is swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Harry sat there thinking WTF. There were both Markled.

I’m not sure if this was supposed to be humorous but it made me laugh 🐷 😆
It does sum it up nicely.

Exactly, and the colour of Archie’s skin furore, her and Harry had two very different versions of when it happened, Harry said in the early days of their relationship and Meghan said during her pregnancy.

So what was it? Did Harry finally decide to tell his suicidal pregnant wife only at that point when she was extremely vulnerable, or did Meghan decide it sounded much more shocking and condemning to say it was a discussion during her pregnancy.

Another example of Harry being callous and uncaring if he waited until she was pregnant to tell her.

and then to throw her under the bus a few years later by saying she was lying, as no one in his family are racist.

I feel really concerned that anybody’s expression of ideation isn’t respected and taken at face value

That's actually a very fair point, @Atlanti, except that few people - or at least the ones I know - lie quite as consistently as Meghan does, so it's perhaps only natural for what she says to now be taken with a huge pinch of salt

The Windsors had this exact episode 😂

There’s actually an episode of The Windsors where the royals unionise and go on strike for better pay via the Sovereign Grant. It’s absolutely hilarious.

They (Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward) form a picket line, and when Wills and Kate try to sneak out to wave at the crowds, they realise they’re about to cross it. They try to duck down, but the others catch them and start shouting “scab!” at them. Anne goes full on and gobs on the windows 🤣

Crossed posts

But here’s clips of the episode

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWp2BuRm2Zs&pp=ygUYVGhlIHdpbmRzb3JzIHBpY2tldCBsaW5l0gcJCYcKAYcqIYzv

Especially because with her maternity package from the Portland there would have been 24/7 access available to her for physical, obstetric and mental health concerns.

It’s as if H&M suddenly didn’t realise that doctors, midwives, nurses and other medical professionals existed.

And that seems a bit far fetched, given that Meg was already involved in the Royal Foundation’s Heads Together from Feb 2018 (see link); and Harry as pp have said had a therapist of his own; and Meg had an excellent private maternity package which Harry presumably knew about.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodriguez/2018/02/28/kate-william-meghan-and-harry-on-stage-together-for-the-first-time/

I would also like to think that her ideation should be taken at face value, but unfortunately we have the unlikely events of her going to HR for help, not using the excellent and confidential resources available to her via her maternity package or any of the resources available via her husband. She claimed that she wanted inpatient treatment somewhere and that this was unacceptable to the RF. This is untrue, as members of the RF had already received inpatient treatment for mental health issues. It is also a rather glaring coincidence that her late mother in law tried to throw herself down the stairs when pregnant. And it would appear that she never did receive any treatment for her allegedly fragile mental state, but made a remarkably quick recovery on her own. All of this leads me to think that there is a degree of disingenuousness here, sadly

But doesn’t a doctor have to refer you for inpatient treatment, I don’t think you can self refer for admission to a psychiatric hospital!

Didn’t it eventually came out that the ‘residential’ treatment she was possibly requesting was a friends new wellness and spa facility.

So she actually wanted a nice spa break and asked for annual leave? Cos that's really not the same thing... At least that explains why HR, which is indeed where one might go if they want time off. But obviously, they're there to represent the staff rather than her and have nothing whatsoever to do with her holiday plans. So they told her the same thing any HR team would tell a person who isn't part of their company asking for permission to go on holiday; "go away, weirdo".

But then... where's Harry in all this? Presumably he knows how to request time off, and that it doesn't usually involve asking the staff's HR representatives to step in! Or did he just find it as hilarious as when he didn't tell her she had to curtsey until they were minutes away from meeting the Queen, so let her crack on?

I don’t know how true the wellness thing is, it was speculation, it might be a bit far fetched because who asks to go to a spa if they are feeling so suicidal they fear they will kill themselves and their unborn baby!

I’m glad that you are coming around to the truth that we have been aware of for some time, my only question would be why when I explained this all to you last night you didn’t listen and wanted to argue about it ?