PR disasters thread 4

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One stop shop for all As ever, Archewell, Meg n Harry disasters

This is what I mean. Meghan stating something seismic- that she was feeling mentally unstable and had ideation thoughts…..with no follow up about any care she received, that her treatment worked well……is actually quite irresponsible.

She was putting out something to the public , that raises questions about the immediate care and safety of a person…..without giving out adequate information, that their health is now under the care of professionals and their safety is ok.

She shouldn’t have put the information out, if she couldnt address the concerns.

If you havent yourself been suicidal what do you know. I have said I have been i don't need to or want to then address concerns etc. People already find it hard to speak about it to share their mental health issues and its their perogative to share what they want to.

You arent concerned about the care she received or got it, you are here to just criticise her always. Now she csnt even say she has had suicidal ideation without you criticisng her.

Its disgusting to be honest.

I also don’t believe that Meghan was suicidal, unfortunately she’s proven herself to be such a stranger to the truth on so many occasions, and this claim as @Baitalsays just felt highly convenient as a way to curry sympathy and simultaneously make it very difficult for anyone to challenge back or question her narrative.

Her own and Harry’s behaviour in relation to this supposed suicidal ideation just doesn’t make sense - indeed on the evening she supposedly confessed this to him, utterly distraught, he apparently dragged her out to a public event. It doesn’t add up.

I agree @elessar.

Omg the things that were said on here - everything from a BBL to William beating her black and blue to laziness to having been divorced. It was truly shocking that people could be like that. They were like a mass of flies attracted to shit. Oh yes but it was " complicated" . Awful!

Suicidal ideation and serious illness, such as cancer, are often exploited by skilled manipulators. I know whose story I believe

I don't agree. I post regularly, I like this thread because it does have boundaries.
Discussing what H&M choose to put in the public realm is different to posting AI videos.

I've posted about this before I became interested outraged after this.

Deal with a suicidal person on the NHS, with no money and no ability to get any help. When you are literally begging because you have no way of keeping someone safe and the crisis line tells you to run a bath and make a hot chocolate, but the person is trying to scald and drown themselves. And then go to work, earn the money, look after the kids.

That is not the same as saying rich people don't suffer from poor mental health - but they don't suffer from poor access to help.

Absolutely, often used by narcissistic men who threaten to kill themselves if their wife says she will leave him, they have no intention of harming themselves at all, it’s used as a form of control. I don’t believe Meghan had any intention of suicide, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if she said she would to Harry as a means to an end, plus it’s straight out of the Diana playbook which I’m pretty sure Meghan knows word for word, Diana threatened to throw herself down the stairs when pregnant with William, once again playing on Harry’s insecurities, I believe she knew exactly what she was doing and it wouldn’t surprise me if Harry himself has clocked it if the Jane Pauley interview was anything to go by, he didn’t even flinch or look at Meghan when it was mentioned.

If you are suggesting that I am a poster who has “arrived to derail the thread” - then you are very wrong. I have posted throughout this thread and have posted in this topic for years. I agree with @RecoIIectionsMayVarythat an irrelevant and unconnected AI post was the derail and for me it went further as depicting violence against a woman - careless at best.

Another one here who doesn't believe Meghan was suicidal...it gave her an out of the situation she was in and is hard to challenge. Ridiculous to say she didn't know how to get someone to talk to when she would have been under the best maternity care that money can buy.

Agreed. It’s simply unbelievable that she had no MH professional to turn to.
And when Harry said during the Oprah interview that he didn’t take action because he was “embarrassed”
Weird that the Oprah interview seems to have been scrubbed from the internet.

And another. The pics of her later that evening, out at the event H forced her to go to.... Nah, that was not a woman who'd been crying- her-eyes-out-suicidal that afternoon, as she and H both claimed.

Add that, in the OW interview, how many proven lies did she tell (rhetorical question , and soz to have opened that up again to the pigeons)?

Wow. Just looked in on this thread and however much you detest MM, I think it’s really scraping the barrel to doubt someone’s claims of feeling suicidal when you don’t know them.

If I recall correctly, MM was pregnant and a new mother around that period and was dealing with a lot of change and stress. Her hormones could have been all over the place.

I’ve been an expat pregnant and with young babies and it’s really difficult.

So, putting everything else aside, I don’t think you can be sure she was lying at all.

@MrsFinkelstein - I do love those pictures of body shapes. & even in my world - the sooner you learn it the better. There are things I ( though I say it myself 😊) can look quite nice in , when I scrub up. There are things which friends of mine look fabulous in but I couldn't and wouldn't even hope to look half decent in.

Rules in the UK are very strict about talking on television about suicide, such is the serious nature of the issue and how vulnerable people can be and how they can be influenced.

Therefore, my perspective comes from a responsible standpoint on how you talk about such issues with the public.

This did not happen when Meghan talked about her thoughts. This was broadcast in a different country, with different rules.

I stand by what I said, that it was irresponsible to talk about in public unless prepared to talk about the importance of seeking help and their recovery.

The suicide claim on OW - thrown into an interview whete they told so many lies and gave such an incoherent account of themselves - was of her/their very first PR disasters, one that is poisonous all these years later.

Yeah, that was very odd. Didn't she/they claim the Queen refused to allow her help? But that still didn't make any sense; even if it were true, Harry was publicly in therapy himself, as well as involved in mental health charities. So even if the Queen had refused to allow medical help (?!), why didn't Harry just ignore her and call one of his many contacts? Or one of his friends? Or even, if they were being held hostage and denied access to the outside world (!!), turned up at that theatre and screamed out publicly that they were being kept prisoner and his wife needed urgent medical assistance?! Pretty sure that's the least most loving husbands would do to get lifesaving care for their wife...

By their own account, M said she was going to kill herself. H then asked his granny whether she could see a doctor, granny said no, and H then just shrugs his shoulders and says "hey ho, done my best, soz - now are you nearly ready, we've got to leave in a minute to go to the theatre and you look a right state with puffy eyes and smeared mascara".

As with so many of these stories that seemingly try to make the RF look bad, they just make H look fucking awful; apparently he didn't give her any information about his family, his position, her future role, or basic guidelines of how she was expected to behave. He didn't bother to mention she had to curtsey to his grandmother until they were enroute in a taxi, and when she was horrified as she didn't know how, he fell about laughing. He was a multi-millionaire in his mid-30s and hadn't even furnished his home further than bean bags, and when pressed still refused to even buy his own sofa and told his girlfriend to buy it - on credit, as she was apparently couldn't afford a second-hand sofa (despite also apparently being a self-made millionaire...)

If these stories are even partly true, I can absolutely see why she might be depressed, and I don't think it's the fault of the public, the media, or the vast majority of the royal family!

Utterly ridiculous claim . Both the late Duchess of Kent and Princess Margaret had inpatient treatment for MH issues .
There’s no way that help wasn’t available for Meghan .

By their own account, M said she was going to kill herself. H then asked his granny whether she could see a doctor, granny said no

There was actually a senior royal who openly received mental health treatment long before the openness of mental health today so that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, and what wet wipe of a husband runs to granny to see if his allegedly suicidal wife can see a Doctor, it’s beyond ridiculous.

Katharine, the Duchess of Kent (who died at 92 in September 2025), was famously open about her long-standing battle with clinical depression and her time in hospital for mental health treatment.

• Causes & Tragedies: Her depression was significantly triggered by two major reproductive losses in the 1970s. In 1975, she was forced to terminate a pregnancy after contracting German measles (rubella), and in 1977, her son Patrick was stillborn. She later described these events as having a "devastating effect" that led to a period of acute depression.
• Hospital Admissions:
• In 1978, she was admitted to the hospital for seven weeks suffering from "nervous exhaustion."
• In 1979, she was admitted to the King Edward VII Hospital for what was reported as "nervous strain."
• Chronic Illnesses: Her mental health was further complicated by physical conditions, including Epstein-Barr virus (ME/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) and coeliac disease, both of which contributed to periods of severe fatigue and withdrawal from public life.
• Public Legacy: By speaking publicly about her time in hospital and her "low periods," she became a pioneer for mental health awareness within the Royal Family, once stating, "I'm not ashamed of that patch at all."

Maybe it was the Queen who told her to contact HR with her suicidal ideations 🙄

It was worse, he said he was ‘ashamed’

Also, not sure where people are getting they went to the Queen and she refused to help, because he said they didn’t tell anyone in the family.

https://iamkateshaw.medium.com/oprah-with-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-interview-transcript-30071fdb2c00

Bearing in mind this is all after the heads together thing they did together with W&K.

How Harry can dare pretend to advocate for mental health is beyond me.

Quite a few of us have been genuinely suicidal, what we don’t do is broadcast it or use it as a weapon.

Yet here we are now discussing a topic totally unconnected to what was previously discussed, a light hearted thread now derailed by discussion of “ suicide” which frankly is triggering to many people who are only interested in discussing clothing.

And the dress was still hideous 🤷‍♀️😂