Kate's birthday video "Mother Nature"

[FloridaCheese]

The PR machine is pushing Catherine as being the Queen of Nature, so wholesome and pure, and ending the video with "Mother Nature" just seems so forced to me.

I'm not really sure why she would release a 90 second video of this nature. Anyone else?

I'm not sure what William's tax decisions have to do with me suggesting that attacking someone for sitting with their sick wife isn't very good.

Yes Jade Goody went through the same as Catherine, accused of “bigging up” her cancer and she died. I didn’t think this thread could get any worse but yet it has, the cancer posts are utterly shameful.

Yes,

I mean you can detest Andrew, detest the RF, detest Catherine's silly video, detest Harry and Meghan, detest Catherine's privileges and her engagement ring.

But man, to stoop so low as to use a cancer diagnosis, anyones cancer diagnosis, whether they are privileged or not to survive it or go into remission, as a stick to beat someone is beyond the realm of belief.

Next you will be saying Catherine didn't really have cancer and it's all a PR tactic. Oh hang on - that has already been said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61446342.amp

William and Kate are seen as the best chance of saving the monarchy so they’re going to use what they’ve got. They’ve been pushing the ‘modern couple’ narrative for years and they have 3 young children. Who doesn’t love children, right? They’re cute, Wills and Kate are ‘hands on modern parents, right? The children are being used too, that’s why they were pushed out to the crowds at Xmas. They’re throwing everything they can at this.

The trouble is, even Kate’s cancer and 3 cute kids doesn’t cover up for a sexual predator in the family and dodgy finances. It’s not the 80s anymore where people just accepted what they were told. Hence the new crisis person being brought in. They’re panicking.

None of what the Royal family are doing is particularly new so I don't see any change in pattern that would suggest panic. If they were a celebrity couple then they would need fast changing PR but the monarchy is an institution that take the long view, because they can.

The Andrew stuff isn't even new, why would they panic over something that has been known for years?

@NotARealBalletDancer is this the same kind of panicking that Harry and Meghan have had employing - how many ? 12 or so? different PR gurus in a couple of years?

lol gotta mention H&M on a thread that has nothing to do with them.
the way the fans try to shut down any thread that doesn't gush over W&C is tragic.

No, I believe Kate had/has cancer and I hope she recovers, It’s a terrible disease at any age, but so young, with young children, it’s heartbreaking. I can feel that way and be suspicious of what’s happening though.

People, organisations and institutions do use things to their advantage. Just like bad news is covered up by the government when a tragedy happens by releasing it on the same day and it gets buried amongst the other news.

The outcome for Kate won’t change based on whether they use this to their advantage or not, so their attitude will be why not. It helps the institution live on. I only hope that it’s a PR team pushing it and not Kate herself, although I don’t think she can be so naive to not realise. I do believe she’d do a lot to help the institution she believes in to continue for her children.

I guess so, because they’re all realising how irrelevant they are so they’re getting desperate and using everything they have. William and Harry are both using their kids. It’s awful. Sorry to disappoint but I’m not a Harry and Meghan supporter so I won’t be defending them. This thread isn’t about them though.

Ha, yes it is tragic. It’s also strange that they seem to think if you criticise William and Kate, you must be a Harry and Meghan fan.

@redmangyfox Why mention Harry and Meghan? There is no comparison here - Harry and Meghan have a different set-up to Kate and William. While they have their charitable endeavours in common, Meghan has to balance all this with the commercial aspect of starting her new, very successful so far, business. Of course they'll need to get the right fit of people which will change as their lives and businesses in California evolve.

I don't personally see much evolving with William and Kate so far. Perhaps that's why they need a crisis manager to up their game. Patronising videos don't cut it any more - time for a different, more professional approach.

Very weird asking for a thread not to be reported ...

I doubt there's much to worry about there, @BigWillyLittleTodger
If HQ didn't delete some of the filthy threads during the "Where's Kate?" thing I can't see them doing it now, even though some can't resist regurgitating the same unpleasantness

Because more stuff has come out and will come out in the Epstein files. As well as Andrew being a sexual predator, his mother paid his victim off and his finances have been revealed to be dodgy which has shone a light on royal finances in general. All the recent books too.

Kates reinvention as Mother Earth, sending the kids out to hug and take selfies with strangers at Xmas, Charles’ statement which came as close as he could to saying Andrew was guilty and employing a new crisis person is a change of pattern and screams panic to me.

I’m at a loss of words, that people could make such comments! And that mn would allow a mother to be “cancer” shamed on their forum!
apparently not for “all” parents after all!

But think of the clicks it generates jeff

So true! Puzzled , not really a good look for them though!

You obviously haven't been following anything about Andrew. More and more things are coming out all the time.
Just dismissing it as 'old news' is ridiculous.
Of course they are panicing over this. There is far more to come out from the Epstein files.

In your opinion.

Oh I think they're relevant - as you say charitable efforts in common.

The rules of this thread appear to be if you criticise Catherine you can bring Meghan into it, no questions asked, however if you reply to that post or make a comment about Meghan and you defend Catherine you are accused of bringing Meghan into it, The “bringing Meghan into it” was started by a Catherine critic on page one of this thread, the third or fourth post down, start there and work your way through the thread and tag them.

Well said. There really is some desperate reaching going on here. They just can't stop with the inane comparisons.

The kids have been doing that at Christmas for a couple of years. Catherine has been talking about nature for years as well, although the videos are newer. We are getting more detail about the Epstein stuff but it doesn't change what we already know, it fills in the blanks.

I loved what Charles said, I suspect that rather than a PR decision it was how he and Camilla (particularly her with all the work she does trying to highlight domestic abuse and possibly with Sophie in support, both of them do amazing work in the area of sexual exploitation and violence which the papers largely ignore, anyway ..) To get back on track I think Charles had tried to get Andrew to apologise by letting him release his awful statement and just had had enough.

Anyway we don't have to agree on whether it was a panic choice or what they have been doing already, we could both be right or neither of us.

I'll recommend the When it Hits the Fan podcast for anyone following along with the PR angle!

I think talking about Meghan and Harry, in some people's eyes, makes anything that William & Kate do... better.
I'm afraid it doesn't work like that!