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As ever and PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 21:35

So Meghan lost her fathers number but is ringing round hospitals and will send a handwritten note, as per Sussex sources speaking through the Sun, the Telegraph and the Times.

I mean I have no idea, how it works with PR for very famous people, but surely there are scenarios they prep for?

Her dad is in his 80s, severely obese and has suffered ill health for years. You would think, there would be protocol in what to do should the worst happen.

That would include having up to date contact info. This isn’t something Meg would need to have/get involved with if she’s estranged, but surely ‘The Office of the DDOS’ would. Then engage in their set plan- whether that’s a public statement that this is a private affair or that contact has been made through the proper channels.

Whatever this is, it isn’t professional-it’s complete chaos.

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Thedom · 22/12/2025 12:05

I do think Charles is still supporting Harry privately, probably something close to the £2 million allowance Harry was getting before they left the RF. I don’t believe Charles cut him off totally.

elessar · 22/12/2025 12:12

Thanks for all the digging @RedTagAlan

It really is absolutely appalling when you see it laid out like that.

In essence, taking money from people, donating a token amount on really quite minor projects, getting a hail of publicity for it and using the rest of the money to swan around the world acting important and bolstering their personal brand.

As another poster said, I would dearly love for a proper investigation into all of this to be done and for them to be fully exposed. I completely agree that it just feels like a fraudulent MLM scheme.

What I am glad about though is that it does seem to be crumbling around them. As much as they’re trying to save face, there’s no avoiding the fact that the foundation has failed like every other one of their business endeavours. I can’t imagine they’re having a very joyful Christmas right now.

I just had a quick look on As Ever and it looks like there’s plenty of stock of everything, including the fabled raspberry jam. Maybe they’ve finally sorted out the stock levels, but I’d be willing to bet that demand is just not that high!

elessar · 22/12/2025 12:16

AtIusvue · 22/12/2025 11:48

Also, if their aim is to expand their global impact….how the hell are you going to achieve that with 3 fewer staff? They only have two staff left.

Also rem, that they got rid of two PR guys, the Crown PR woman and I think two other members of their team in the summer.

They must be having catastrophic money problems.

I think the initial 10 million for the foundation was from NF. I also think when 2025s figures come out…..the 8 million thats left will be gone.
Because they wouldn’t be able to transfer foundation money over to their new venture and now they’ve got rid of most of the staff. There’s no money left.

I am curious about how many staff they now have remaining. It really can’t be many as you say!

AutumnCrown · 22/12/2025 12:20

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 11:54

Do you honestly think KC is helping to fund Harry ? Even with his enormous personal wealth it would be a huge undertaking given their lifestyle .

I think he may well give allowances toward to children’s education, activities, staff and lifestyles, yes. Significant allowances. He’s a guilt-trammelled, emotionally compartmentalising billionaire.

Possibly also trusts exist. And the children’s future commercial earnings eg appearance fees, use of images.

And I have such a low opinion of Harry that I do actually allow myself to think it possible that he’d allow this or some of this, and want to control and access these monies or enable its happening, psychologically assuaged by calling it all ‘philanthropies’. He’s not right in the head.

Out of interest, by the by: I’ve seen a trust fund looted here in the UK. It went to court, and long story short - the judge allowed it as it wasn’t ‘theft’ until the child came of age. Once the child turned 18, the money was still gone and the trustee was living in another country. Nothing under the sun surprises me these days.

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 12:31

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 11:54

Do you honestly think KC is helping to fund Harry ? Even with his enormous personal wealth it would be a huge undertaking given their lifestyle .

My guess - and obviously like everyone else here it's complete speculation - is that Charles may have set up trust funds for the children's education and the like. But I really don't think he is directly funding Harry. Given that it's unlikely Harry and Meghan will ever be able to generate much income on their own, that would be an ongoing responsibility and I don't see Charles signing up for that. Even if the Sussexes never earn another penny, they have more than enough from Harry's family money to live a very comfortable, if not super luxe, lifestyle.

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 12:32

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 09:54

This article from Feb 2024, Charity watch.

Archewell Foundation: CharityWatch Rating | CharityWatch

The stuff in here is a bit dated, but it does list who they gave money to in2021. And as PPs have mentioned, this is an eyecatcher. Quote :

I"n addition to grants, the Archewell Foundation reports paying $534,780 for “Fees for services (nonemployees)…Other.” Of this amount, it claims that $499,954 consisted of program-related expenses and $34,826 consisted of management and general-related expenses. Breakouts of fees paid to independent contractors for the year include $180,524 to Invisible Hand, LLC; $127,807 to Herlihy Loughran; and $120,000 to Jiore Craig, all reportedly for “Programmatic Strategic Support.”"

The bit I bolded above, I picked that because it's an LLC. . lets have a look.

Invisible Hand

Quote :" Invisible Hand is a strategic and creative partner for the world’s most influential brands, institutions, and individuals."

Brand management/ PR basically. It's list of services reads like a page from a corporate talk spoof article.

That list has got my interest. Let's look more.

Herlihy Loughran, from her site :"Herlihy Loughran is an advisory partnership that links influential people and organisations to good causes, bringing ideas to life and turning intention into real, purposeful action."

Home - Herlou

Jiore Craig Her website is linked below. I can't figure out what she does.

Jiore Craig

So in 2022, that was $428,331 in fees for " influencer brand management" ?

The charity watch report also says : " One red flag CharityWatch identified in the charity’s expense reporting for 2022 is $0 reported fundraising expenses. It costs money to raise money, so a charity reporting that it spent nothing to raise over $2 million in contributions heightens the suspicion that it may not be allocating its expenses correctly. The value of the time a staff member spends soliciting donations is a fundraising expense, for example, as are general office expenses incurred to do so, such as telephone, supplies, and any fundraising event costs. It is extremely rare for a charity to be able to raise significant donations without spending even one penny to do so."

Please allow me to rant a little :-)

So the self made entrepreneur, business leader, womens leader, inspiration to all, a shining example to civilisation in general.... actually just took money that other people had donated, and paid others to create " her brand".

FFS.

But hey, they all have nice websites I suppose. Sort of. The web designers must really struggle keeping a straight face when writing all that baloney.

:-)

My hunch is that the anonymous donor was Oprah or Tyler (he is part of OW business network) as a thank you for the free interview.

They are all scratching each others backs.

The big interview that H&M gave under Archewell to launch The Parents Network (for parents who’s children died by sui@ide) - was this time last year - was that just ahead of the original scheduled launch of AE / WLM? If so this is exploiting suffering parents living the worst experience to flog her tat.

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 12:39

elessar · 22/12/2025 12:12

Thanks for all the digging @RedTagAlan

It really is absolutely appalling when you see it laid out like that.

In essence, taking money from people, donating a token amount on really quite minor projects, getting a hail of publicity for it and using the rest of the money to swan around the world acting important and bolstering their personal brand.

As another poster said, I would dearly love for a proper investigation into all of this to be done and for them to be fully exposed. I completely agree that it just feels like a fraudulent MLM scheme.

What I am glad about though is that it does seem to be crumbling around them. As much as they’re trying to save face, there’s no avoiding the fact that the foundation has failed like every other one of their business endeavours. I can’t imagine they’re having a very joyful Christmas right now.

I just had a quick look on As Ever and it looks like there’s plenty of stock of everything, including the fabled raspberry jam. Maybe they’ve finally sorted out the stock levels, but I’d be willing to bet that demand is just not that high!

Emmmm spread !

AtIusvue · 22/12/2025 12:41

elessar · 22/12/2025 12:16

I am curious about how many staff they now have remaining. It really can’t be many as you say!

Yes, they reduced their Archewell productions team too not long ago.

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Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 12:43

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 12:31

My guess - and obviously like everyone else here it's complete speculation - is that Charles may have set up trust funds for the children's education and the like. But I really don't think he is directly funding Harry. Given that it's unlikely Harry and Meghan will ever be able to generate much income on their own, that would be an ongoing responsibility and I don't see Charles signing up for that. Even if the Sussexes never earn another penny, they have more than enough from Harry's family money to live a very comfortable, if not super luxe, lifestyle.

But comfortable isn’t what they want; billionaire status is the aspiration .
Given all the snarky comments Harry ( and Meghan) have made about the RF including KC himself and Camilla , then surely Harry is even more stupid than I thought if he is still receiving handouts .

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 12:44

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 11:54

Do you honestly think KC is helping to fund Harry ? Even with his enormous personal wealth it would be a huge undertaking given their lifestyle .

Hopefully KC has set up something for his grandkids. A & L should not have to suffer just because they have numbnuts for parents. They should get the same opportunities their cousins get.

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 12:47

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 12:43

But comfortable isn’t what they want; billionaire status is the aspiration .
Given all the snarky comments Harry ( and Meghan) have made about the RF including KC himself and Camilla , then surely Harry is even more stupid than I thought if he is still receiving handouts .

Well, don't we all want to be billionaires?

It doesn't mean it's going to happen. The Sussexes can 'want' to be billionaires as much as they like, but their lack of talent and work ethic makes it a complete fantasty. Frankly, they're extremely lucky to have the money they have, almost all of it due to the family Harry complains about so much.

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 12:49

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 12:44

Hopefully KC has set up something for his grandkids. A & L should not have to suffer just because they have numbnuts for parents. They should get the same opportunities their cousins get.

Archie and Lili's future is the responsibility of their parents. Not their grandfather.

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 12:49

elessar · 22/12/2025 12:12

Thanks for all the digging @RedTagAlan

It really is absolutely appalling when you see it laid out like that.

In essence, taking money from people, donating a token amount on really quite minor projects, getting a hail of publicity for it and using the rest of the money to swan around the world acting important and bolstering their personal brand.

As another poster said, I would dearly love for a proper investigation into all of this to be done and for them to be fully exposed. I completely agree that it just feels like a fraudulent MLM scheme.

What I am glad about though is that it does seem to be crumbling around them. As much as they’re trying to save face, there’s no avoiding the fact that the foundation has failed like every other one of their business endeavours. I can’t imagine they’re having a very joyful Christmas right now.

I just had a quick look on As Ever and it looks like there’s plenty of stock of everything, including the fabled raspberry jam. Maybe they’ve finally sorted out the stock levels, but I’d be willing to bet that demand is just not that high!

If all 3 parts of Archewell have tumbled as well as NF deal, Spotify, WLM, As ever on the skids - we should be due a MM biography - that would be her last scraping of the barrel. Should be called “Squandered” as everything they have touched has turned to shit by their own grandiose, inept and delusional behaviour.

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 12:55

elessar · 22/12/2025 12:16

I am curious about how many staff they now have remaining. It really can’t be many as you say!

Maybe it is all connected to the change of Archiewell, tax returns and 501 (C) status.

Now, I know nothing about law, but I don't think it's difficult to think of what is maybe not lawful. For example, using donated money to pay staff, when the staff are not actually doing much for the charity.

Insert lots of " allegedly" into the above :-)

What Is a 501(c)(3) and Can It Pay Employees? (chisholmfirm.com)

From the above law site :

"You can pay salaries, but you cannot pay any amount you want. Under IRS rules, all compensation must be “reasonable.”

The IRS defines reasonable compensation as the amount that would ordinarily be paid for similar services by similar organizations (taxable or tax-exempt) under similar circumstances."

And this from further down :

"A defining feature of a 501(c)(3) is that it must be organized and operated for public benefit, not private gain. This is known as the prohibition on private inurement and excess private benefit.

In simple terms, no part of the nonprofit’s net earnings can unfairly benefit an insider, such as a founder, board member, or key employee."

A quick look online for LA charity jobs shows most are about $18 an hour, but there are a few at about $80k a year, and I did find one at $250k a year for a Development specialist, Philanthropy Programs, spinal injuries. That last one, the very well paid one, does have targets in the job description. Minimum raised to be $250k, and more importantly perhaps, the job description does not mention " booking travel for the boss".

My layman's guess is they got a tax expert in.

Please say if you think I am getting ahead of myself here :-)

What Is a 501(c)(3) and Can It Pay Employees?

Learn what a 501(c)(3) nonprofit is and whether it can pay employees. Includes IRS rules, reasonable compensation standards, and guidance from Chisholm Law Firm.

https://chisholmfirm.com/what-is-a-501c3-and-can-it-pay-employees/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20a%20501%20%28c%29%20%283%29%20can%20pay%20employees%2C,rules%20on%20reasonable%20compensation%20and%20avoid%20private%20benefit.

Zippedydodah · 22/12/2025 13:25

Lunde · 21/12/2025 10:28

I read on the internet - can't remember where - that the change of name might be because Archewell no longer fulfils US charity rules to be a 501-c. I don't know what fundraising they do these days but Archewell seems reliant on a couple of very wealthy but anonymous donors.

I haven't seen a financial report for 2024 - which seems a bit late. I am unsure of the accuracy of these sources but there are reports that Archewell donations collapsed in 2025 to just £1.5 million, although they spent £3.8 million - thereby creating a loss of £1.8. This resulted in staff being sacked and restructuring as a "philanthropies" organisation
https://www.geo.tv/latest/640673-prince-harry-meghan-markle-face-severe-crisis-after-major-announcement

I like the end bit ’……dedicate themselves to helping others’
Shouldn’t that read ’…..dedicate themselves to helping themselves’?

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 13:31

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 12:49

If all 3 parts of Archewell have tumbled as well as NF deal, Spotify, WLM, As ever on the skids - we should be due a MM biography - that would be her last scraping of the barrel. Should be called “Squandered” as everything they have touched has turned to shit by their own grandiose, inept and delusional behaviour.

If all 3 parts of Archewell have tumbled as well as NF deal, Spotify, WLM, As ever on the skids

This is another sign of how amateurish they are.

Why on earth would you give your 'commercial' and 'charitable' ventures the exact same name? Especially as it's a crap name!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/12/2025 13:43

if their aim is to expand their global impact….how the hell are you going to achieve that with 3 fewer staff?

That's easy, @AtIusvue ... yap about it in the hope that word salad will substitute for action in the minds of enough folk

Trouble is they've tried that so often; it didn't work before and I see no reason it'll work now

lickingfingertastingfood · 22/12/2025 13:44
viceland GIF by ABANDONED

That office is looking a bit empty!

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 13:45

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 13:31

If all 3 parts of Archewell have tumbled as well as NF deal, Spotify, WLM, As ever on the skids

This is another sign of how amateurish they are.

Why on earth would you give your 'commercial' and 'charitable' ventures the exact same name? Especially as it's a crap name!

Yes indeed. I see they have an issue with their logo, being accused of plagiarism by a Spanish town. Fair enough, honest mistakes and all that, but an article I found on that had this snippet:

"The previous name, American Riviera Orchard, also faced issues because it referred to a location, one of the exclusive neighborhoods of Santa Barbara, making it impossible to register. However, she did not mention this issue, as she realized that the name was limiting her, since it was understood that everything she sold had to originate from that area."

So that explains the name change of their jam spread brand. But the fact is, or appears to be, that they launched the brand and website, without realising that the name strongly implied that the product came from there. I do remember thinking at the time that they must have a big garden.

So, with near half a million spent on "brand experts" in one year alone, nobody spotted that names do matter.

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 13:48

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 13:31

If all 3 parts of Archewell have tumbled as well as NF deal, Spotify, WLM, As ever on the skids

This is another sign of how amateurish they are.

Why on earth would you give your 'commercial' and 'charitable' ventures the exact same name? Especially as it's a crap name!

I thought they employed highly paid professionals to assist them ?
Has Meredith left yet ?

Thedom · 22/12/2025 14:11

On X there is speculation there has been a bigger cull of staff, not announced, the 3 foundation employees are purportedly not the full extent of the layoffs, so it is possible their head of PR or whatever her title is, is also gone. She has been pretty useless anyway, her tenure will only be remembered for all the puerile clapbacks she issued this year.

AutumnCrown · 22/12/2025 14:31

The only thing left to market are the children. But they will try and disguise it as ‘philanthropies’ and ‘royal birthright’.

AtIusvue · 22/12/2025 14:35

AutumnCrown · 22/12/2025 14:31

The only thing left to market are the children. But they will try and disguise it as ‘philanthropies’ and ‘royal birthright’.

Yes, this is setting them up with a legacy….because they know they won’t be working royals. It will be the next Duke of Sussex and the Princess carrying in the good work with Archewell Philanthropies. They won’t let them go out and have normal jobs like normal people.

So we will have another generation, trading on British titles when they have no links to here.

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Lunde · 22/12/2025 15:01

Does Harry still have the £20-30 million he started with or have they spent that?

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 15:03

AtIusvue · 22/12/2025 14:35

Yes, this is setting them up with a legacy….because they know they won’t be working royals. It will be the next Duke of Sussex and the Princess carrying in the good work with Archewell Philanthropies. They won’t let them go out and have normal jobs like normal people.

So we will have another generation, trading on British titles when they have no links to here.

According to Harry ( can’t remember where he said it) it’s up to A and L whether or not they become working Royals !
Delusional .

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