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As ever and PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 07/12/2025 21:35

So Meghan lost her fathers number but is ringing round hospitals and will send a handwritten note, as per Sussex sources speaking through the Sun, the Telegraph and the Times.

I mean I have no idea, how it works with PR for very famous people, but surely there are scenarios they prep for?

Her dad is in his 80s, severely obese and has suffered ill health for years. You would think, there would be protocol in what to do should the worst happen.

That would include having up to date contact info. This isn’t something Meg would need to have/get involved with if she’s estranged, but surely ‘The Office of the DDOS’ would. Then engage in their set plan- whether that’s a public statement that this is a private affair or that contact has been made through the proper channels.

Whatever this is, it isn’t professional-it’s complete chaos.

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IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 15:04

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 13:48

I thought they employed highly paid professionals to assist them ?
Has Meredith left yet ?

No idea.

But 'highly paid professionals' act on the orders of their employers, so if the Duchess says it's Archewell, Archwell it is!

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 15:09

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 12:55

Maybe it is all connected to the change of Archiewell, tax returns and 501 (C) status.

Now, I know nothing about law, but I don't think it's difficult to think of what is maybe not lawful. For example, using donated money to pay staff, when the staff are not actually doing much for the charity.

Insert lots of " allegedly" into the above :-)

What Is a 501(c)(3) and Can It Pay Employees? (chisholmfirm.com)

From the above law site :

"You can pay salaries, but you cannot pay any amount you want. Under IRS rules, all compensation must be “reasonable.”

The IRS defines reasonable compensation as the amount that would ordinarily be paid for similar services by similar organizations (taxable or tax-exempt) under similar circumstances."

And this from further down :

"A defining feature of a 501(c)(3) is that it must be organized and operated for public benefit, not private gain. This is known as the prohibition on private inurement and excess private benefit.

In simple terms, no part of the nonprofit’s net earnings can unfairly benefit an insider, such as a founder, board member, or key employee."

A quick look online for LA charity jobs shows most are about $18 an hour, but there are a few at about $80k a year, and I did find one at $250k a year for a Development specialist, Philanthropy Programs, spinal injuries. That last one, the very well paid one, does have targets in the job description. Minimum raised to be $250k, and more importantly perhaps, the job description does not mention " booking travel for the boss".

My layman's guess is they got a tax expert in.

Please say if you think I am getting ahead of myself here :-)

No you are not getting ahead of yourself here at all.

Posters on this thread have been predicting this for years - not ‘if’ - but ‘when’ it would be explosed. Also waiting for H&M exploitation of Invictus for expenses and ‘brand’ development to be investigated. I expect the not so ‘Invisible Hand’ consultants (such as dodgy name) had a hand in advising on squeezing the pips out of that for their own personal $$$$.

Archewell, Invictus and then a class action against MM from all of her dozens of bullied staff that she caused emotional injury to would be the hat-trick.

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 15:10

AutumnCrown · 22/12/2025 14:31

The only thing left to market are the children. But they will try and disguise it as ‘philanthropies’ and ‘royal birthright’.

If they're hoping to 'market' the children I expect they will be disappointed.

Beyond maybe some initial curiosity, I don't think there is much interest in these children. Aside from the fact that the children are school age now and too 'old' for strangers to really feel any sort of 'connection' with them, the days when 'celebrity children' were a 'thing' are long gone. It is not 2005 and they are not Brangelina.

elessar · 22/12/2025 15:31

Thedom · 22/12/2025 14:11

On X there is speculation there has been a bigger cull of staff, not announced, the 3 foundation employees are purportedly not the full extent of the layoffs, so it is possible their head of PR or whatever her title is, is also gone. She has been pretty useless anyway, her tenure will only be remembered for all the puerile clapbacks she issued this year.

I said (probably on another thread) that I think Meredith may well have gone, or have agreed an exit - because with all the shenanigans with Meghan’s dad, they kept referring to the “spokesman” for H&M - and for such a sensitive issue it would be bizarre if that wasn’t being primarily handled by their PR lead.

that said, Meredith was still posting about Meghan’s announcements very recently on LinkedIn suggesting she’s still associated with them, but it could be part of a face saving exercise.

Thedom · 22/12/2025 15:41

Can’t believe Thomas Markle is reduced to doing a go-fund me for his hospital costs, I think the guy is awful, but I don’t know how she could not pay his hospital fees, it doesn’t mean she ever has to see or speak to him again. I don’t think there are too many people who could be that brutal to their own parent, estranged or not.

MrsLeonFarrell · 22/12/2025 16:59

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 15:03

According to Harry ( can’t remember where he said it) it’s up to A and L whether or not they become working Royals !
Delusional .

Harry still thinks he is a working royal after all. It's about time they started on their life of service now that their father is apparently 35 years in at 40.

Jaffyyy · 22/12/2025 17:16

Yes that was an hilarious claim by PH - he only became a working royal after he left the army, did a few years and then flounced off - sure it was single digits - not a lifetime of service.

As Ever - grandiose and delusional

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/12/2025 17:16

I’m surprised there hasn’t yet been an attempt to counter that poignant photo of the guestbook at the homeless charity…

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 17:20

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/12/2025 17:16

I’m surprised there hasn’t yet been an attempt to counter that poignant photo of the guestbook at the homeless charity…

The day is not yet over …..

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/12/2025 17:21

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 17:20

The day is not yet over …..

What do we think.. Lili reaching out to a Diana bauble on the tree?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/12/2025 17:30

Lunde · 22/12/2025 15:01

Does Harry still have the £20-30 million he started with or have they spent that?

How would we know?

Harry did once say he wanted to keep his inheritance from diana for the kids, but beyond that all we can really say is that they've a very expensive lifestyle, various court cases to pay for and no obvious source of significant income

lickingfingertastingfood · 22/12/2025 17:50

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/12/2025 17:16

I’m surprised there hasn’t yet been an attempt to counter that poignant photo of the guestbook at the homeless charity…

God that must have had Harry beetroot red!He must have had to go and sniff some Elizabeth Arden to get some comfort.

RedTagAlan · 22/12/2025 18:01

NormaMajors1992coat · 22/12/2025 17:21

What do we think.. Lili reaching out to a Diana bauble on the tree?

I think photos of a visit to the Ohio jam factory, where their jam spread is lovingly made by skilled artisans.

The press pack will include photos of M being presented a lifetime achievement award by the CEO of the Guild of American Jam makers, a certificate of appreciation presented by the CEO of the American raspberry growers association, and a special presentation by the CEO of Ohio Jam Inc, of the bill for the 2560000 jars of unsold jam spread, that can be seen stacked against the wall behind.

H gave a very well received speech to the jam makers, on the difficulties of borrowing a private jet from Canadian estate agents.

:-)

StartupRepair · 22/12/2025 19:36

Wasn't Harry going to donate the Spare royalties to 'his' charities? Wonder if that ever happened.
That charity visit by William and George was wonderful. The authenticity of the relationship, the longevity of the connection and the focus on the charity was the opposite of the Sussex approach.

Mylovelygreendress · 22/12/2025 20:09

Agree about W and G . They looked totally relaxed together and clearly have a close bond .

JSMill · 22/12/2025 21:11

MrsLeonFarrell · 22/12/2025 16:59

Harry still thinks he is a working royal after all. It's about time they started on their life of service now that their father is apparently 35 years in at 40.

He’s completely delusional.

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 23:15

IcedPurple · 22/12/2025 12:49

Archie and Lili's future is the responsibility of their parents. Not their grandfather.

Yes of course GP aren’t usually responsible for their GC, however this isn’t the regular, run of the mill billionaire family we’re talking about. I would like to think KC would be up for looking after those kids best interests - financially at least.

The parents don’t seem very business savvy and seem to be slow launching the children, the last money making option they that have. I mean why state that arcehwell has a had a make-over and that they plan on moving forward with it as a family unit - kids and all.

AutumnCrown · 22/12/2025 23:40

Puzzledandpissedoff · 22/12/2025 17:30

How would we know?

Harry did once say he wanted to keep his inheritance from diana for the kids, but beyond that all we can really say is that they've a very expensive lifestyle, various court cases to pay for and no obvious source of significant income

If H parks the children’s earmarked (as in, earmarked in his head and in his prior public verbosity) in the Archewell Philanthropettes business, he can spend it on himself and maintain a lot of pretences simultaneously.

Lunde · 22/12/2025 23:41

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 23:15

Yes of course GP aren’t usually responsible for their GC, however this isn’t the regular, run of the mill billionaire family we’re talking about. I would like to think KC would be up for looking after those kids best interests - financially at least.

The parents don’t seem very business savvy and seem to be slow launching the children, the last money making option they that have. I mean why state that arcehwell has a had a make-over and that they plan on moving forward with it as a family unit - kids and all.

But realistically what can Charles do? Do the family even have real financial problems or is it just they cannot live like billionaires?

Harry has almost £30+ million of inherited wealth, plus Harry had an allowance of £2 million a year until 6 months after they left, Charles gave them a £4.5 million contribution to establishing, plus whatever they made/make from Netflix, Spotify, As Ever, personal appearances and the "expenses" that their charities pay for etc

If Harry had just stuck his inheritance of £30 million and $4.5 million lump sum from Charles in a bank account (totalling $47 million) it would be earning him approx $2.5 million for doing nothing

BemusedAmerican · 23/12/2025 00:00

Lunde · 22/12/2025 23:41

But realistically what can Charles do? Do the family even have real financial problems or is it just they cannot live like billionaires?

Harry has almost £30+ million of inherited wealth, plus Harry had an allowance of £2 million a year until 6 months after they left, Charles gave them a £4.5 million contribution to establishing, plus whatever they made/make from Netflix, Spotify, As Ever, personal appearances and the "expenses" that their charities pay for etc

If Harry had just stuck his inheritance of £30 million and $4.5 million lump sum from Charles in a bank account (totalling $47 million) it would be earning him approx $2.5 million for doing nothing

I have been saying this for years. They should have gotten a competent financial planner and listened to them.

Instead I've had posters explaining how it's their divine right to overspend.

Lunde · 23/12/2025 00:14

BemusedAmerican · 23/12/2025 00:00

I have been saying this for years. They should have gotten a competent financial planner and listened to them.

Instead I've had posters explaining how it's their divine right to overspend.

Another thing that the men in grey suits used to take care of.....

I think the underlying issue was that Harry had likely never paid bills nor did he know what anything cost - houses, staff, offices, cars, food, clothing and security was covered by the RF. He seemed totally baffled that these things were not automatically provided after he flounced to "find freedom"

Whereas Meghan seemed to have a Hallmark/Disney Princess idea of royal life that she would live in a huge palace with hundreds of staff at her beck and call and that she would attend a few Galas in designer gowns and jewels. I think she thought that Harry would be co-King or have some sort of power. Perhaps she should have pursued Prince Albert of Monaco when he was single...

IcedPurple · 23/12/2025 07:48

AsEverATwat · 22/12/2025 23:15

Yes of course GP aren’t usually responsible for their GC, however this isn’t the regular, run of the mill billionaire family we’re talking about. I would like to think KC would be up for looking after those kids best interests - financially at least.

The parents don’t seem very business savvy and seem to be slow launching the children, the last money making option they that have. I mean why state that arcehwell has a had a make-over and that they plan on moving forward with it as a family unit - kids and all.

Yes, but what can Charles do about any of that?

If the children's parents want to 'launch' them as a prop in their endeavours, as their grandparent, living on another continent and with little contact, is powerless to do anything.

I'm sure that those kids will never want for anything in the material sense. As I said above, Charles may well have some sort of trust fund set up for them, though obviously this is pure speculation on my part. But I don't think it's up to him to compensate for his son and daughter in law's stupidity and avarice.

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/12/2025 08:21

They seem to have sufficient money to live a wealthy lifestyle. The problem is they are living as if they are billionaires and they aren't. Harry seems to have assumed that he could continue to live a royal lifestyle without being a working royal.

IcedPurple · 23/12/2025 08:32

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/12/2025 08:21

They seem to have sufficient money to live a wealthy lifestyle. The problem is they are living as if they are billionaires and they aren't. Harry seems to have assumed that he could continue to live a royal lifestyle without being a working royal.

Are they living life as billionaires?

Their lifestyle seems pretty dull to me. It's not like they're going on luxury trips, have several holiday homes, or are hosting A list parties. Meghan is not seen in custom couture, but in mid range designers. They do live in a very exclusive area, but their home seems not to have been renovated for years if not decades. It doesn't look billionairish to me.

What they do seem to spend a fortune on are law suits which are destined to failure and staff whose advice they don't heed. But that doesn't exactly make for an enviable lifestyle.

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/12/2025 08:35

IcedPurple · 23/12/2025 08:32

Are they living life as billionaires?

Their lifestyle seems pretty dull to me. It's not like they're going on luxury trips, have several holiday homes, or are hosting A list parties. Meghan is not seen in custom couture, but in mid range designers. They do live in a very exclusive area, but their home seems not to have been renovated for years if not decades. It doesn't look billionairish to me.

What they do seem to spend a fortune on are law suits which are destined to failure and staff whose advice they don't heed. But that doesn't exactly make for an enviable lifestyle.

I was thinking of the ridiculously enormous house in an expensive area, the over the top security and the way they fly private a lot. To have all that for life you need way more money than they have.

The clothes etc reveal that they aren't as wealthy as they need to be for the lifestyle they want.

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